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Old 11-07-2016, 14:49
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I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed, but equally I do think that this is just a negotiating tactic to get the best deal for him and his player.
Or, 'agent does his job'.
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Old 11-07-2016, 17:16
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And here it is...

Pogba's agent has claimed that he may well stay at Juventus, as they're preparing to offer him a new contract.

Well played, Mr. Raiola.
He's quids in either way!
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Old 11-07-2016, 17:21
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Or, 'agent does his job'.
Yes, I never said he wasn't.
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Old 11-07-2016, 17:44
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And which set of fans, if not Man Utds, would be the first in the queue attacking their owners and Chief Executive were they not in the market for players at the top end of the price bracket?

If Man Utd were to come out and say that they refused to spend that sort of money on Pogba or someone else would they be applauded for their stance or would people question what the hell the owners were doing with the money taken into the club if not reinvested in the team.
The other shareholders and financiers might well question the club spending money they have not got. No CL money either next year.

MUFC Trading and Profit and Loss.

Perhaps the Glazers have the odd hundred million or two hidden under their mattresses!
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Old 11-07-2016, 18:26
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The other shareholders and financiers might well question the club spending money they have not got. No CL money either next year.

MUFC Trading and Profit and Loss.

Perhaps the Glazers have the odd hundred million or two hidden under their mattresses!
What?
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Old 11-07-2016, 19:52
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Am i reading this right? There is a united fan actually complaining that the club might be spending some money?

Wouldnt it all be so much better if the club was in the League 2 fighting against Hartlepool. Then we can all pretend we are REAL fans.
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Old 11-07-2016, 21:18
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Yes, I never said he wasn't.
You worded it as if it was something out of the ordinary.

It's just stating the bleeding obvious to suggest that a player's agent may simply be looking to get the best deal for him. It's what they're employed to do.

The only part of that 'story' that adds to what's been said before is that Juventus may look to offer Pogba a new deal.

Not sure what you're 'confused' about.
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Old 12-07-2016, 00:55
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Juventus should have sealed the deal before that final Pogba was the worst man on the pitch!

On a side note, Sir Alex waiting to congratulate Ronaldo was beautiful. And Ronaldo's watch pointing (and other) antics the best part of the game
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:12
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Juventus should have sealed the deal before that final Pogba was the worst man on the pitch!
I'd dispute that, but even if he was, so what?

Any potential transfer fee would be wholly unaffected by one game. I'd have thought that was fairly obvious.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:27
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Let's have it right, if it was any club other than United in for Pogba then there'd be nowhere near as much nitpicking on his performances.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:38
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Let's have it right, if it was any club other than United in for Pogba then there'd be nowhere near as much nitpicking on his performances.
Stop being so touchy!
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Old 12-07-2016, 10:28
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No 'tin foil hat' or 'gimmick' here, just calling it as I see it.

I'd have thought that was allowed on my own team's thread, but clearly it's an issue for non-United fans.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:11
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Am i reading this right? There is a united fan actually complaining that the club might be spending some money?
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Unfortunately no. There are big differences between spending money wisely (investing). wasting money (LvG) and spending money you have not got in the first place and need to borrow it. Here endeth the (corporate finance) lesson.
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:17
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Unfortunately no. There are big differences between spending money wisely (investing). wasting money (LvG) and spending money you have not got in the first place and need to borrow it. Here endeth the (corporate finance) lesson.
I'm afraid you maybe shouldn't be lecturing on subjects you don't seem very clear about. Sorry.
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:31
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I'm afraid you maybe shouldn't be lecturing on subjects you don't seem very clear about. Sorry.
And you are an expert?
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:41
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And you are an expert?
Not all all never claimed to be however what you are saying makes little or no sense. No one buys a player with the thought of him failing yet no one can really know how well a player will succeed until they look back retrospectively, so how you can ascertain whether a purchase is "investing" or "wasting money" is completely subjective until after it is done.

Rio Ferdinand could have been "wasting money" when United broke the transfer record for him. A decade of top level football later and £30m looks like a steal.

From a financial point of view it makes far more sense to buy Pogba at 23 (for example) for a large fee and sell on value than it does to buy an RVP type at 29 (for example) for less money but ending up giving them away.
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Old 12-07-2016, 13:26
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Schweinsteiger married Ana Ivanovic. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/spo...e-married.html

How insanely gorgeous is she! No wonder his mind hasn't been on football lately. He was busy following her around to tennis tournaments
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Old 12-07-2016, 13:30
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More rumours about a potential move for Oxford. Just can't see W Ham selling, but the papers persist with the stories.
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Old 12-07-2016, 13:44
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Schweinsteiger married Ana Ivanovic. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/spo...e-married.html

How insanely gorgeous is she! No wonder his mind hasn't been on football lately. He was busy following her around to tennis tournaments
Nice one Schweiny! She's a bit tall for him!
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Old 12-07-2016, 18:57
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Unfortunately no. There are big differences between spending money wisely (investing). wasting money (LvG) and spending money you have not got in the first place and need to borrow it. Here endeth the (corporate finance) lesson.
Care to explain where the club is wasting money and spending what they dont have?

Even if they dont have it, which id dispute, most businesses will take a loan to improve/invest in their business. Its pretty normal.
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Old 12-07-2016, 19:00
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More rumours about a potential move for Oxford. Just can't see W Ham selling, but the papers persist with the stories.
He does seem like a talent from what I have seen. But he reminds me of raheem sterling. Just been given too much too young and lost or will lose that drive
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Old 12-07-2016, 19:59
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Ashley Fletcher, a youth product who people might have actually heard of, has signed for West Ham on a 4 year deal.

Oh, and Nick Powell has gone to Wigan.
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Old 12-07-2016, 20:16
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Care to explain where the club is wasting money and spending what they dont have?

Even if they dont have it, which id dispute, most businesses will take a loan to improve/invest in their business. Its pretty normal.
I linked to accounting data so dispute the profit all you like. Recent "investment" did not exactly show its worth in CL performance either. Loans? Most normal businesses are not buying overpriced footballers.

I am sure that both of us hope that value on the pitch demonstrates itself rather more convincingly this next season than previous ones.
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Old 12-07-2016, 20:21
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I linked to accounting data so dispute the profit all you like. Recent "investment" did not exactly show its worth in CL performance either. Loans? Most normal businesses are not buying overpriced footballers.

I am sure that both of us hope that value on the pitch demonstrates itself rather more convincingly this next season than previous ones.
And despite being asked you have yet to give us all the benefit of your expertise regarding what you posted.

The rest of your post is basically 'United fan moaning they dont agree with the managers buying'

Big deal, most fans of their clubs would think they could do a better job of spending the clubs money. Would you rather the clubs didnt actually spend any or do as they have done and support their manager with his team building requests?
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Old 12-07-2016, 21:16
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Ashley Fletcher, a youth product who people might have actually heard of, has signed for West Ham on a 4 year deal.

Oh, and Nick Powell has gone to Wigan.
Could be a precursor to this Oxford kid coming the other way.

As for Powell, that's probably his level.
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