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Old 13-07-2016, 10:52
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They're a good side, no need for the snobbery.
It's not snobbery! They were in the championship not that long ago.

They do play better football than they did under Sam but i'll reserve judgement over them until I have more than a season to do so.

It's not that long ago Pardew and Rogers were getting the plaudits.
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Old 13-07-2016, 11:18
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A couple of lines, from a couple of uber-reliable sources:

The Mirror reckon that we're looking at Fabregas. Smacks of an easy story, to me.

Meanwhile, The Mail are claiming that Mourinho's told the players that he only wants 24 players in the first-team squad. Anyone outside of that 24 can either leave, or train with the U-21's. The golden 24? They kindly provide the list:

Goalkeepers: De Gea, Romero, Johnstone.

Defenders: Jones, Valencia, Darmian, Shaw, Smalling, Fosu-Mensah, Borthwick-Jackson, Bailly.

Midfielders: Mkhitaryan, Pogba, Herrera, Depay, Carrick, Schneiderlin, Young, Lingard, Pereira.

Forwards: Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Rashford, Martial.

Can't see the likes of Blind, Mata and Schweinsteiger training with the kids. And Pogba? Bit presumptuous, at this stage...
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Old 13-07-2016, 12:16
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A couple of lines, from a couple of uber-reliable sources:

The Mirror reckon that we're looking at Fabregas. Smacks of an easy story, to me.

Meanwhile, The Mail are claiming that Mourinho's told the players that he only wants 24 players in the first-team squad. Anyone outside of that 24 can either leave, or train with the U-21's. The golden 24? They kindly provide the list:


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24? According to the papers it was 22 last week. Give it a week or two and it'll be 26!

As with all hacks, no one has a clue about the squad or about who Jose does or doesn't want. Why anyone ever believes such things always amazes me.
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Old 13-07-2016, 12:21
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24? According to the papers it was 22 last week. Give it a week or two and it'll be 26!

As with all hacks, no one has a clue about the squad or about who Jose does or doesn't want. Why anyone ever believes such things always amazes me.
Many journalists have inside information.
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Old 13-07-2016, 12:46
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Interesting group, as Jose implemented a 19/5 squad at Inter, with 19 "world stars" and 5 home grown players being in the squad. He's still getting praise for his work with the Inter academy, but that squad contains 6/7 home grown players. I say that as if the suggestions I've read are true that by Christmas Pogba should he return would be classed as home grown for competition purposes of course.

No Januzaj, but Pereira that would be a interesting call seeing as both were called out for attitude issues under LVG.
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Old 13-07-2016, 12:56
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Good to see TFM and B-J in that list, I hope that we see more of them this coming season.
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Old 13-07-2016, 13:16
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This still takes some getting used to seeing:-

https://twitter.com/BeastFosuMensah/...305749504?s=09
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Old 13-07-2016, 13:18
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It must be difficult for fans like yourself who have such a hatred for Mourinho and don't want him anywhere near Manchester United.
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Old 13-07-2016, 15:11
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I think Mourinho is trouble he is divisive and arrogant without any redeeming features and his crass stupidity over the Chelsea club doctor incident proves to me he lacks maturity
and good judgement.
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Old 13-07-2016, 15:12
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It must be difficult for fans like yourself who have such a hatred for Mourinho and don't want him anywhere near Manchester United.


I have said that he will get my full backing whilst he is here with us, until like with Moyes and LvG, he gives me a reason, or reasons not to.
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Old 13-07-2016, 15:17
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I think Mourinho is trouble he is divisive and arrogant without any redeeming features and his crass stupidity over the Chelsea club doctor incident proves to me he lacks maturity
and good judgement.
I can think of a couple. In fact, you've managed to think of one yourself.

Just noticed that Fellaini's not in that list, either.
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Old 13-07-2016, 15:19
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I have said that he will get my full backing whilst he is here with us, until like with Moyes and LvG, he gives me a reason, or reasons not to.
Again, not sure what's confusing you there. You were bad-mouthing Mourinho for months. Right up until he was appointed, in fact.

You seem to be confused quite a lot.
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Old 13-07-2016, 15:31
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I have said that he will get my full backing whilst he is here with us, until like with Moyes and LvG, he gives me a reason, or reasons not to.
Why are you using these stupid confused emoji's again? Its pretty clear what was meant and it makes perfect sense.

If you read through the various threads here you have made your feelings about Mourinho very very clear right up until he was appointed.
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Old 13-07-2016, 16:01
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It's one thing to be unsure of an appointment, i felt that way about Moyes and to a lesser extent LVG, but batdude was tearing into Mourinho as soon as someone mentioned his name (and not just in this thread). That always seemed strange when he was hot favourite for the job for so many months. Why would a genuine fan of our club go so out of his way to portray the individual who was likely to be our new boss as the devil incarnate? Fair enough, have a gripe, but to go to the lengths he did was quite strange. Even stranger now he seems to have totally forgotten all the things he said and is now the guy's biggest cheerleader.
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Old 13-07-2016, 16:31
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Many journalists have inside information.
Some will get titbits from clubs but many just throw enough shit and hope some sticks.
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Old 13-07-2016, 17:05
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Again, not sure what's confusing you there. You were bad-mouthing Mourinho for months. Right up until he was appointed, in fact.

You seem to be confused quite a lot.
Why are you using these stupid confused emoji's again? Its pretty clear what was meant and it makes perfect sense.

If you read through the various threads here you have made your feelings about Mourinho very very clear right up until he was appointed.
It's one thing to be unsure of an appointment, i felt that way about Moyes and to a lesser extent LVG, but batdude was tearing into Mourinho as soon as someone mentioned his name (and not just in this thread). That always seemed strange when he was hot favourite for the job for so many months. Why would a genuine fan of our club go so out of his way to portray the individual who was likely to be our new boss as the devil incarnate? Fair enough, have a gripe, but to go to the lengths he did was quite strange. Even stranger now he seems to have totally forgotten all the things he said and is now the guy's biggest cheerleader.
I am not his biggest cheerleader by any stretch of anyone's imagination, all that I have done, and it is something that I have said that I would do, even when I was being critical of him, is that I will get behind our manager until there is a reason, or reasons not to do so.
To me that is the fair and just thing to do, I have not done anything or said anything (to my knowledge), that I said that I wouldn't do or say.

I will not repeat myself about what my concerns were prior to his arrival, as I think most people know what they are or were, so they do not need repeating again.
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Old 13-07-2016, 17:30
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Hopefully Jose will prove his doubters wrong.

I was one of the last remaining Moyes out on here but probably amongst those who wanted LVG out earlier on last season.

After the shit fest since Fergie left let's just pray this the one.
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Old 13-07-2016, 17:57
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Perhaps you could make your point with a detailed analysis of the profit generated available for acquiring new players. At least the Glazers appear to have plenty of reserves.
Im not the one complaining that the club either has no money or they are wasting fortunes. You posted a profit and loss spreadsheet, its your responsibility to explain it if you want it to back up your argument.
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Old 13-07-2016, 17:59
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It's one thing to be unsure of an appointment, i felt that way about Moyes and to a lesser extent LVG, but batdude was tearing into Mourinho as soon as someone mentioned his name (and not just in this thread). That always seemed strange when he was hot favourite for the job for so many months. Why would a genuine fan of our club go so out of his way to portray the individual who was likely to be our new boss as the devil incarnate? Fair enough, have a gripe, but to go to the lengths he did was quite strange. Even stranger now he seems to have totally forgotten all the things he said and is now the guy's biggest cheerleader.
Im not fussed if people dont want Mourinho here but at least have the balls to stick with your opinion rather than change it at the click of a finger.
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Old 13-07-2016, 18:07
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I am not his biggest cheerleader by any stretch of anyone's imagination, all that I have done, and it is something that I have said that I would do, even when I was being critical of him, is that I will get behind our manager until there is a reason, or reasons not to do so.
To me that is the fair and just thing to do, I have not done anything or said anything (to my knowledge), that I said that I wouldn't do or say.

I will not repeat myself about what my concerns were prior to his arrival, as I think most people know what they are or were, so they do not need repeating again.
There's no need to get behind him. He's not your friend on Facebook, you have a locked Twitter account and I doubt he reads DS. Stick to your convictions and don't U turn. Jose doesn't give a flying **** about your opinion so keep your your beliefs.

I cannot abide Giggs. I never have and I never will. No amount of FA Cup semi final goals would change it so I'll never pretend to 'get behind him' although that's probably the safest place for a girl to be.
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Old 13-07-2016, 18:10
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Ive never been a fan of ibrahimovic and i dont think he should be at the club. Ill be happy if he wins us games but it wont change my opinion that he shouldnt be here
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Old 13-07-2016, 18:21
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Perhaps try the "General Transfer Thread" for this?!
Bit unnecessary, don't you think? Clearly he just posted in the wrong thread. The confused smiley and redirecting him to go like you're in charge of this thread comes across as a little nasty.

And in response to your next post, "I wasn't being nasty", whether you intend to or not the post seems unnecessary when the poster clearly just made a mistake.
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Old 13-07-2016, 18:31
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There's no need to get behind him. He's not your friend on Facebook, you have a locked Twitter account and I doubt he reads DS. Stick to your convictions and don't U turn. Jose doesn't give a flying **** about your opinion so keep your your beliefs.

I cannot abide Giggs. I never have and I never will. No amount of FA Cup semi final goals would change it so I'll never pretend to 'get behind him' although that's probably the safest place for a girl to be.
Fair enough, and that is a very reasonable position to take, I have no issues with that sort of viewpoint at all, however I wouldn't categorise my viewpoint as a u turn as such, as my reservations about José are still very much there, I am just willing to give him a chance, to see if he can do well here.
If he gives us or myself cause for concern or worry, as over time both Moyes and LvG did, then I will voice my concern.


Bit unnecessary, don't you think? Clearly he just posted in the wrong thread. The confused smiley and redirecting him to go like you're in charge of this thread comes across as a little nasty.

And in response to your next post, "I wasn't being nasty", whether you intend to or not the post seems unnecessary when the poster clearly just made a mistake.
Sorry if it came across as nasty or something like that, my post was honestly not meant to be read as such, and I will bear in mind your points for further postings.
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Old 13-07-2016, 18:32
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Im not the one complaining that the club either has no money or they are wasting fortunes. You posted a profit and loss spreadsheet, its your responsibility to explain it if you want it to back up your argument.
If you can't understand a simple number (i. e. a profit) there is little point in trying to explain it further to you. I fully appreciate however that few if any posters here that have a financial background so perhaps I was being optimistic. Fortunately I am no longer a shareholder so I can sleep easy in my bed without worrying too much about where the money comes from to pay for players who are only here for the wonga.

Regardless of the specifics (lets keep it really simple) it does not need a member of PWC's finance team to see that £250m plus salaries to not get in the top four is a fairly poor deal.
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Old 13-07-2016, 18:32
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There's no need to get behind him. He's not your friend on Facebook, you have a locked Twitter account and I doubt he reads DS. Stick to your convictions and don't U turn. Jose doesn't give a flying **** about your opinion so keep your your beliefs.

I cannot abide Giggs. I never have and I never will. No amount of FA Cup semi final goals would change it so I'll never pretend to 'get behind him' although that's probably the safest place for a girl to be.
Exactly! There's no need to be so black and white about things. One day hating someone and the next loving them. What I find most odd is that people on here were getting excited about Mourinho taking over, but the poster in question was relentlessly negative, looking to stomp on any positivity surrounding the appointment. There's no way you can move from that position to 'let's give him the benefit of the doubt until he does something naughty'.
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