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Old 14-07-2016, 12:27
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Are you going to start going to games again this season you're better and on the up?
Let's see how things pan out, hopefully I will get to a few games.

No idea but I wouldn't have thought you would be saying "he's by far the best" and then say "he has the potential".

He had a decent start to last season after a dreadful previous season. The jury is out on him right now.
Dreadful is terribly harsh on him, he did very well I thought before his leg almost got amputated on the pitch!
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Old 14-07-2016, 12:31
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I was referring to his character as a man not whether he can win things.
Then you should have explicitly stated that. You must know him really well personally, to know that he has 'no redeeming features at all'. Either that, or you're solely basing your opinion on what's published in the media.

And as I said before his crass and inept handling of the Chelsea club doctor farce showed he has zero common sense and showed utter contempt for another club employee.
Did you feel the same way about Ferguson, when he kicked a boot at Beckham's face, or turned up at a player's house to publically lambast them (or 'humiliate', if you like), in front of their mates?

Any man who can publicly humiliate a woman who is his junior, publicly, is not worthy of respect.
The fact that she's a woman should be irrelevant. He didn't physically assault her.

It's obvious that Mourinho is no saint, and that he's done some questionable things, but he's a football manager, not a politician.

People make mistakes. It doesn't mean that they should be forever judged by the 'holier-than-thou' brigade.
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Old 14-07-2016, 12:49
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Let's see how things pan out, hopefully I will get to a few games.



Dreadful is terribly harsh on him, he did very well I thought before his leg almost got amputated on the pitch!
I said he was good last season hat little there was of him, it was the season before I said was dreadful, when he was very unfit.
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Old 14-07-2016, 13:24
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If a man isn't willing to mug his own granny on her way home from the Post Office simply on the off-chance she is hiding 3 points in her purse, then I don't wish to see him anywhere near MUFC.
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Old 14-07-2016, 13:25
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Nice to see our players picking up awards!

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Old 14-07-2016, 13:36
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I'm sure it doesn't need pointing out that its a joke award though?
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Old 14-07-2016, 13:38
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ha ha. how do you find these things bardude? you must spend every minute trawling twitter and facebook. i thought you were going back to work?
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Old 14-07-2016, 13:41
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who ran the online survey? i can't find anything about it when i do a google search...
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Old 14-07-2016, 13:59
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Then you should have explicitly stated that. You must know him really well personally, to know that he has 'no redeeming features at all'. Either that, or you're solely basing your opinion on what's published in the media.



Did you feel the same way about Ferguson, when he kicked a boot at Beckham's face, or turned up at a player's house to publically lambast them (or 'humiliate', if you like), in front of their mates?

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The fact that she's a woman should be irrelevant. He didn't physically assault her.

It's obvious that Mourinho is no saint, and that he's done some questionable things, but he's a football manager, not a politician.

People make mistakes. It doesn't mean that they should be forever judged by the 'holier-than-thou' brigade.
Duplicate post laptop blip reason unknown!!!
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Old 14-07-2016, 14:05
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I made no reference whatsoever in my first post to anything other than his character and none at all as to whether he can win football matches so I assumed it would have been obvious to all, but clearly not.

It's rather depressing that when a man who publicly humiliates a more junior employee (who happens to be a woman) is criticised it is because of some holier-than-thou brigade attitude rather than criticising workplace bullying.

During my working life I alwayscly humiliated them in front of other staff it simply wasn't the right thing to do nor indeed would it have been a sensible business decision in the long run.

I always found if my staff felt that I treated them with respect and acted fairly they would bust a gut for me and they did.
You're talking about a football club manager, on a thread for that football club. Why would his 'character' be of any interest, if it was not intertwined with his ability to do the job?

You seem to be assuming that I either don't care, or even dismiss what happened with the physio. It's a baseless assumption. As is your assumption that Mourinho has 'no redeeming features at all'. You know next to nothing of the man.

As for this bit:

"During my working life I alwayscly humiliated them in front of other staff it simply wasn't the right thing to do nor indeed would it have been a sensible business decision in the long run."

I don't really know what you're trying to say. Well, I think I kind of do, but you seem to have confused yourself.
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Old 14-07-2016, 14:09
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Then you should have explicitly stated that. You must know him really well personally, to know that he has 'no redeeming features at all'. Either that, or you're solely basing your opinion on what's published in the media.



Did you feel the same way about Ferguson, when he kicked a boot at Beckham's face, or turned up at a player's house to publically lambast them (or 'humiliate', if you like), in front of their mates?



The fact that she's a woman should be irrelevant. He didn't physically assault her.

It's obvious that Mourinho is no saint, and that he's done some questionable things, but he's a football manager, not a politician.

People make mistakes. It doesn't mean that they should be forever judged by the 'holier-than-thou' brigade.
I made no reference whatsoever in my first post to anything other than his character and none at all as to whether he can win football matches so I assumed it would have been obvious to all, but clearly not.

It's rather depressing that when a man who publicly humiliates a more junior employee (who happens to be a woman) is criticised you think it is because of some holier-than-thou brigade attitude rather than a criticism of workplace bullying.

Still, you are entitled to your opinion.
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Old 14-07-2016, 14:11
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I made no reference whatsoever in my first post to anything other than his character and none at all as to whether he can win football matches so I assumed it would have been obvious to all, but clearly not.

It's rather depressing that when a man who publicly humiliates a more junior employee (who happens to be a woman) is criticised you think it is because of some holier-than-thou brigade attitude rather than a criticism of workplace bullying.

Still, you are entitled to your opinion.
If you're simply going to post exactly the same as before, then I don't think that I'll waste my time replying further.
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Old 14-07-2016, 14:14
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If you're simply going to post exactly the same as before, then I don't think that I'll waste my time replying further.
I blame the laptop I wasn't intending to repeat the same comments!!

Anyway we agree to differ I guess just wonder if United will rue the day (sometime in the future) that they appointed him. We shall see.
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Old 14-07-2016, 14:18
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I blame the laptop I wasn't intending to repeat the same comments!!

Anyway we agree to differ I guess just wonder if United will rue the day (sometime in the future) that they appointed him. We shall see.
Fair enough. I did wonder if it was an error!

There is, of course, every chance that it could all go tits up for us, under Mourinho. I just found your original statement a bit over-the-top. As you say, we'll see.
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Old 14-07-2016, 16:19
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I'm sure it doesn't need pointing out that its a joke award though?
Oh yeah, if course it is, still nice to pick up the award though!

ha ha. how do you find these things bardude? you must spend every minute trawling twitter and facebook. i thought you were going back to work?
I was just lucky to be looking at twitter at that precise time when that came up on my timeline!
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Old 14-07-2016, 17:51
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Oh yeah, if course it is, still nice to pick up the award though!
About as nice as a film director winning a Razzie
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Old 14-07-2016, 18:16
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About as nice as a film director winning a Razzie
Fair enough.
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Old 14-07-2016, 23:18
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There's no need to get behind him. He's not your friend on Facebook, you have a locked Twitter account and I doubt he reads DS. Stick to your convictions and don't U turn. Jose doesn't give a flying **** about your opinion so keep your your beliefs.

I cannot abide Giggs. I never have and I never will. No amount of FA Cup semi final goals would change it so I'll never pretend to 'get behind him' although that's probably the safest place for a girl to be.
Well, that's a revelation to me. I honestly never would have got that impression from the many Giggs "debates" we've had on here. Can I ask why the intense dislike? Sounds like it's more than just the cheating?
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Old 15-07-2016, 00:30
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Well, that's a revelation to me. I honestly never would have got that impression from the many Giggs "debates" we've had on here. Can I ask why the intense dislike? Sounds like it's more than just the cheating?
I lost respect for him after in law gate.

Added to this were the rumours that he was sticking the knife into both Louis and Moyes which is a pretty shitty thing to do regardless of what you think of their time at the club.
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Old 15-07-2016, 09:32
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Eintracht Frankfurt are supposedly interested in taking Varela on loan.

I'd have been keen to keep him around. We're not exactly well-stocked, at right-back.
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Old 15-07-2016, 09:34
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Added to this were the rumours that he was sticking the knife into both Louis and Moyes which is a pretty shitty thing to do regardless of what you think of their time at the club.
Do you honestly believe that Van Gaal would have put up with that? Even Moyes would have had something to say about it, I suspect.
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Old 15-07-2016, 09:47
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I lost respect for him after in law gate.

Added to this were the rumours that he was sticking the knife into both Louis and Moyes which is a pretty shitty thing to do regardless of what you think of their time at the club.
Meh, who cares what he does in his private life? A bit of ruthless disregard for the feelings of others can be a good quality in a football manager! (I'm joking here...sort of)
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Old 15-07-2016, 10:10
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Eintracht Frankfurt are supposedly interested in taking Varela on loan.

I'd have been keen to keep him around. We're not exactly well-stocked, at right-back.
Another loan after going to Real Madrid's B team does seem a bit strange, he either should be sold (of which I would be again), or he should be kept, and used as part of the squad here.

Loaning him out, in his case, just delays making a decision over his future with us.

We should make a firm decision one way or another.
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Old 15-07-2016, 10:11
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Meh, who cares what he does in his private life? A bit of ruthless disregard for the feelings of others can be a good quality in a football manager! (I'm joking here...sort of)
It did bring lots of negative headlines to the club, and that is something that will be with him now permanently (which he obviously brought on himself), so I would imagine the top brass were not exactly happy with him for that.
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Old 15-07-2016, 10:24
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Given that Mourinho professed his love for 'specialists' recently, you'd have thought that would have benefited Varela over someone like Valencia.
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