The point stands though (as I said I couldn't quite remember the exact club he went to), Liverpool wanted to buy him (by all accounts from the time), but we would not sell him to them.

It might be almost a decade ago but that is the most recent example we have of this sort of situation, and shows just how infrequent transfers are between the two clubs involving first team squad players.

Hence why it is very, very unlikely that Allen would be the one to break this record.

I have said I dont see Allen going though but that shouldn't preclude deals happening. I know deals dont happen between the clubs I dont get who you are pointing that out, its the crux of the conversation - point is, a deal not happening a decade ago doesn't mean it couldn't happen now.

I also disagree that players wouldn't be accepted. Mo Johnston was accepted by Rangers fans.

The rivalry is huge amongst Liverpool and ourselves, and I personally couldn't see deals being done for first team players of either club to the other, yes the owners might not be up to speed with the histories of each club, and with all normal logic deals should be easy to do, but I just honestly don't see it, the hype of that person breaking what has been a very, very long gap would be very hard to handle.

Who knows what the future holds, but currently, I just don't see transfers between the two clubs happening anytime soon.

Regardless of the politics of transfers between Utd and Liverpool I don't want Joe Allen.

Rangers didn't sign catholics. Mourinho went back to Chelsea so would never manage Man Utd. Tevez went to City. Michael Owen played for Man Utd. Figo, Ronaldo, Michael Laudrup. Sol Campbell captained Arsenal.

All things that people could never see happening or all things that shocked. Times change, things move on. Just because something hasn't happened doesn't logically preclude it from happening in the future or none of the above could have taken place.

Well with Mourinho there it's still unlikely since he's not a big fan of Liverpool (thanks, Rafa!) and would embrace the rivalry.

But I don't think a transfer between the clubs is that impossible. Right now I don't know who would go either way, but someone like Joe Allen would be the type of player that could make the move without there being much outrage from either side. Until Klopp came in Allen wasn't liked by the fans. The whole "Welsh Xavi" thing didn't do him any favours. Brendan kept misusing him, playing him as a CDM where he's not effective. Then he grew a beard and his hair, Klopp used him better and all of a sudden he's a fan favourite.

I'm not saying it'll happen, and before he replies, I don't know where he'd fit in, but if Mourinho signed him then he'll have already considered that, I'm sure. He's not a first-team player, he's not a key player, so something like that could happen. If circumstances were different, I wouldn't have been massively surprised if we signed Victor Valdés from you. We needed a goalkeeper, and he wasn't first-choice or a fan favourite, neither is he a local lad or anything, there wouldn't be much uproar if that transfer happened.

The previously used examples of Gerrard or Fowler wouldn't work because they were key players. You seen the outrage when Michael Owen signed for Man United and he went there from Newcastle. If you signed David N'Gog or someone like that I doubt any Liverpool fan will care.

We have a youngster, Sam Hart, who we signed from Man United. If he was to make it with the first team I'm sure the commentators will point it out a lot like they're prone to do. It'd just be a bit of trivia.

For the record, Joe Allen was also said to be a Man United fan growing up. So from a personal POV I don't know if he'd be against such a move.

Huh??

Am I seeing things, or not???

I can see your viewpoint, and it is a solid one, but until it does happen, (a transfer of a first team player between the clubs), then it will just continue to be one of these things that could be classed as an anomaly.

There has been a few examples of former players joining both teams after spells else where, which hasn't gone down at all well. Ince has never been forgiven for joining Liverpool and that celebration, which makes me wonder if any fans like him.

Over the years a number of youngsters have switched between the clubs, again though I can't recall any of them ever really making the grade at the new clubs.

As for players supporting the "other" team, the chief scousebuster himself of the 1980's Norman Whiteside has said he followed Liverpool as a youngster, and only the other day I heard Rio Ferdinand say the say thing.

I can't see direct transfers of players between the clubs taking place, player may wind down contracts and join either club or join the other team after another move, but between the two clubs, I just can't see it happening for a while.

This is exactly how I feel, I can't see a player making the direct move between the clubs either, there does seem to be far too much rivalry for either club to try and make a move on the other for a player.

There really isn't. Its not the 1980s any more. Fan rivalry is one thing but not so much between the clubs. If Mo Johnson can be cheered by Rangers then fans will accept players who played for rival teams. Players aren't as engrained in club culture any more so they will be more inclined to move.

Well when it does happen (if it does) then we will cross that bridge then, but until then, we can only take things as they are at the time, and currently, there does seem far too much rivalry for a first team player to make the move, as it has not happened for a very long while (something like 1927, or something like that I think I remember reading or hearing somewhere, although I could be slightly wrong on the date).

Reports in Italy suggesting that the Pogba fee could be as high as £117m.

Meanwhile, Zidane seems to have played down Madrid's interest, by claiming that they have 'a large squad already'.

Crazy high fee, but if he comes, and performs to a high level, that fee will soon be seen as acceptable.

If Higuain is being touted at £80m at 28/29 years old then Pogba is a £100m player in my view.

I haven't got a problem with us paying that sort of money, in today's climate.

My only concern would be the pressure that such a price tag may place on him. He might thrive, or he might wilt.

Think this is basically the media filling time. Saw it with Ibrahimovic during the euros as well. No news was coming out and there were no other obvious clubs who could be claimed to be jumping in so you instead had the increasing 'wage demands' of £700 trillion per nanosecond and a blowjob before each match. All of the Italian press have apparently led with Pogba today with different fees/wages etc and I think it's just them trying to fill space until he finishes his holiday.


100% agree.

I know that he supposedly has a really high release clause, but anyone paying circa £80 million for him would be mad!

Yep, wouldn't be surprised.

I believe Madrid aren't as awash with cash as previously. According to AS anyway.

I'm still getting a touch of the Ronaldinio's with this transfer though.

At any stage, do you think the man United board will think, this is madness??

Slightly wrong, the last one was Phil Chisnall from us to them in 1964!!! Just a few years out Batty.

Why would they? They wont lose huge amounts on it. When you look at the percentage losses on the likes of Berbatov and Van Persie, this deal makes relative sense from a financial POV.

Whilst I understand the feelings, and as we've been burned since then by others Wesley *cough* Sneijder, I think as Pogba has been here before, he knows the area, he's still got former team mates at the club, it perhaps adds a little more strength to all the talk that he may come.

I know, but I wonder if any stage they think, we aren't good to be held to ransom, he may be a very good player, but forget the business, he ain't worth the salary and wages!