He seems a decent enough guy, passionate enough about playing for the shirt.

It's just that he's not very good.

i agree with some of that but its definitely worth some analysing. for e.g my team played a academy wingback in friendly last week and he looked immense, now all of a sudden manager is saying he may start season and no new defender needed in transfer window. its good to know i have seen him play so i dont have to wait and wonder what hes like. also we relaised we seriously lack pace,so hopefully new addition is brought in soon! all discussion points at very least is my point.

friendlies been going on forever, not just about brand awareness, although big part of it for big teams i agree, they still need warm up matches nontheless. results do not matter.

and i imagine anyone who watched it isnt working, cant be angry at them for that. although i am typing all this from work lol

I'll bet its the way he gel's his hair ?

Cant stand the bloke myself, I'd sell in in a heartbeat

I haven't really been able to form a concrete opinion of him. Perhaps it's his because he's had long periods out and he's been used in different positions, but I feel like there's something very transient about him - I've never felt like he's our player more some guy who is helping out for a bit.

I'd be inclined to give most players the benefit of the doubt, considering they were playing last season for a manager with convoluted tactics and who didn't really get the best out of any of his players. Having said that, I wouldn't give a damn if he was moved on.

True!

Yeah, have to agree with much of this.

There must be something about him, otherwise we wouldn't have bought him in the first place, and the bloke's an Argentina international. I just haven't really seen it.

Perhaps if he had a decent run at centre-half, it might become more apparent, but I can't see that happening anytime soon.

Rojo clearly enjoys himself here with us, however it is becoming clear that he is not up to the standards that we need of our centre-back options.

Yes we can excuse players for not playing at their peak levels under such a rigid manager as LvG, but can we really afford to continue with Rojo??

I would be okay with him moving on, and bringing in a replacement, as he has had a fair few games, and he just has not performed up to the required standard.

I would be punting Smalling along with him, you'll never win the league with that standard of CB !

I'm trying to work out if you're joking...

Mental if you're not.

Why would I joke ? & no need to be rude

So you actually think we should punt Smalling, a guy who was easily our best defender last season and was one of the best in the entire league?

Aye I seen that with his pass back to Joe Hart, in the euros


BTW, I'm not on here to have a pop @ your team, just my opinion fella !!

So you're basing your opinion of him on one mistake in one game rather than the season and a half of good performances. Fantastic.

FFS mate, that was just one example

Glug Glug

Smalling is a decent centre half. Jones is the next one to move on after Rojo imo.

Maybe we could put a bid in for Pogba's team mate while we're at it?

If you take off your beer goggles you might see that Smalling is actually a good CB, one worth keeping around, rather than selling him based on the odd mistake, including one with England. Certainly not one you should be rushing to get rid of.

Assuming you mean Bonucci, we've been linked with him in a few places. Wouldn't surprise me if there's genuine interest either.

That's the one!

City are interested too.

Managed to watch its and pieces of the game whilst at work. Dortmund did look a lot quicker and fitter than us but then i read its their 5th pre season game so hard to judge. Result doesnt matter a jot though, just nice to know the footie season is close once more.

Oh, right.

Darmian is allowed to be bang average because of Van Gaal's tactics, and should be given another chance, but Rojo isn't, and should be binned.

Consistent.

Isn't wrong that when Pogba's teammate was mentioned my first thought was for Evra?!

Bonucci would be very handy indeed, although I sincerely doubt that Juve will let two crucial players go, nevermind both to the same club!


I just don't see much in Rojo, whereas I do believe that on Darmian there is still a talented player that I hope that José bring out.

Whereas I've not seen much in Darmian to convince me that there's much more there. He seems to be vaguely competent, at best.

I haven't seen any more in Rojo, but if you're going to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, due to 'Van Gaal's tactics', then I don't see why one should be moved on, and the other given a starting berth.

Fair enough if you don't see much in Darmian, I think he van be an asset for us, if he is allowed to show his true self other pitch.

I don't think or know if there is that same potential to be good enough in Rojo if I am being honest.

We will see I guess if LvG's tactics were to blame for either player's loss of form, but as I say I hold out more hope for Darmian then for Rojo, but equally I would be delighted if both played well this season.

Thats your answer to Smalling ........... * Glug Glug *

Ya sad sack

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