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Well we're capable of conceding a goal, but if Lovren and Sakho are playing it'd be tough to get two, and that's while also stopping us from getting an away goal for 90 minutes.
It's not exactly over by any means. It'll be tough for us as well as you! Quote:
It'll probably be a nerve wracking affair until we (hopefully) nick an away goal. Not conceding an away goal was massive - I think that early Rashford chance, had it been converted, would have been hard to come back from considering the hex United have had over us of late. Such small margins. I'm so nervous I may even watch Spurs until things calm down a bit! Gulp...
If I was Klopp, I'd go all-out for the first ten-fifteen minutes. If you score, the tie's over. |
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The good news is we've put three past Liverpool on their last two visits to OT, which is what we need. The bad news is the last one finished 3-1, which wouldn't be good enough of course.
The FA Cup draw is interesting, it could be a repeat of the 1990 final versus Palace. 3-3 on the day, Lee Martin's winner in the replay, Fergie's first trophy with United and the rest is history. Just the small matter of getting past West Ham and Everton first though, LVG still hasn't beaten a Premier League team in a cup competition since taking over at United btw. |
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Bryan Robson, on Giggs:
“The thing for me is that Van Gaal was always going to be a three-year contract with Ryan working under him so that they could see whether he was ready to step in.” “Ryan was a great player for this club, he loves playing football the United way, he’s done all his badges and for me he’s in the right place at the right time. “People say it’s too big a challenge, too big a jump. But I don’t agree. Look at Pep Guardiola, he came through the ranks at Barcelona as a player and then as a young coach and then they trusted him and he stepped up. He was tremendously successful. “It’s the same with Ryan. He knows what this club is all about and the fans would be totally behind the club if they made that decision and totally behind Ryan.” Dear me. Loved Robson as a player, but he can't seriously think that 'the fans would be totally behind the club' appointing Giggs, can he? It would be such a massive gamble, and we're in no position to be taking gambles. |
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Bryan Robson, on Giggs:
“The thing for me is that Van Gaal was always going to be a three-year contract with Ryan working under him so that they could see whether he was ready to step in.” “Ryan was a great player for this club, he loves playing football the United way, he’s done all his badges and for me he’s in the right place at the right time. “People say it’s too big a challenge, too big a jump. But I don’t agree. Look at Pep Guardiola, he came through the ranks at Barcelona as a player and then as a young coach and then they trusted him and he stepped up. He was tremendously successful. “It’s the same with Ryan. He knows what this club is all about and the fans would be totally behind the club if they made that decision and totally behind Ryan.” Dear me. Loved Robson as a player, but he can't seriously think that 'the fans would be totally behind the club' appointing Giggs, can he? It would be such a massive gamble, and we're in no position to be taking gambles. The Guardiola example is so lazy. Guardiola was a success because he is Guardiola. It doesn't mean its a successful strategy nor is it a reason to follow suit. Its the same as the idiots who say "Give a manager a chance look at what Fergie did" whilst conveniently forgetting the number of times sacking a manager and bringing in someone new actually works. Id expect better from Robson but Im not entirely shocked at him spouting outdated rubbish. |
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Bryan Robson, on Giggs:
“The thing for me is that Van Gaal was always going to be a three-year contract with Ryan working under him so that they could see whether he was ready to step in.” “Ryan was a great player for this club, he loves playing football the United way, he’s done all his badges and for me he’s in the right place at the right time. “People say it’s too big a challenge, too big a jump. But I don’t agree. Look at Pep Guardiola, he came through the ranks at Barcelona as a player and then as a young coach and then they trusted him and he stepped up. He was tremendously successful. “It’s the same with Ryan. He knows what this club is all about and the fans would be totally behind the club if they made that decision and totally behind Ryan.” Dear me. Loved Robson as a player, but he can't seriously think that 'the fans would be totally behind the club' appointing Giggs, can he? It would be such a massive gamble, and we're in no position to be taking gambles. Let's hope the board have more sense. |
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Ah, you've reminded me of United's match against Estudiantes in 1968 in what was then regarded as a world club match.
The good old days, eh? I was there at the time at OT and I recall that their intention was to simply kick us off the park South American style. They did however do it with quite considerable ball control even though it was raining cats and dogs. My main memory however was the rain that night. Most of the ground was open to the weather and we got half drowned standing behind the goal at the Scoreboard end. Drove home with the car windows open to stop it steaming up and fortunately managed to get changed before the pubs shut. Watneys Red Barrel!!! Hey ho.....
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City have lost Company and Otamendi for Sunday by the looks of things.
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City have lost Company and Otamendi for Sunday by the looks of things.
If he didn't play for them I'd almost feel sorry for him. |
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I think Robson has already demonstrated he knows little about what it takes to be a manager.
The Guardiola example is so lazy. Guardiola was a success because he is Guardiola. It doesn't mean its a successful strategy nor is it a reason to follow suit. Its the same as the idiots who say "Give a manager a chance look at what Fergie did" whilst conveniently forgetting the number of times sacking a manager and bringing in someone new actually works. Id expect better from Robson but Im not entirely shocked at him spouting outdated rubbish. As much as I loved him as a player he never really came across as one of life's great talkers or thinkers. |
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I find it really hard watching the Champions League, especially other English clubs.
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City have lost Company and Otamendi for Sunday by the looks of things.
Twice as long they have, ridiculous! |
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I agree wholeheartedly with the comments about Giggs. Even if Giggs does turn out to be a good manager in the future (which is a big if), it's just too much of a risk to hand him the reins at this critical stage when the club is on such a slippery slope. It's imperative that we get the next managerial appointment absolutely spot on because we can't afford another 3 years of this nonsense. I just want to see the back of Van Gaal in all honesty.
I appreciate where Bryan Robson is coming from, ideally most football clubs would love to promote from within. But it's just not realistic to expect any Tom, Dick and Harry to do what Pep Guardiola did at Barcelona. The thing that Guardiola had going for him at Barcelona was that he inherited a supremely talented group of players from Frank Rijkaard (including some player named Messi), all he had to do was make a few signings and tweaks here and there and he had the team firing on all cylinders. Giggs wouldn't be inheriting a team anywhere near that level, unfortunately and a lot of players such as Martial and Memphis are still developing as players. And even if he went out and bought 4 or 5 expensive players, can you trust Giggs to buy the right players for the club? Will the big names want to play for him? |
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Giggs won't attract the kind of players we need if we are to get back to competing with the best.
Why on earth would a top player join Utd in our current state with a rookie manager when there are more attractive options in the premier league? If the board are planning to go full steam ahead with this crazy plan, then they'd better get as many sponsorship deals lined up while our stock is still high. Alternatively, it's the usual pro Giggs pr machine getting worried. I hear the odds of Jose being appointed have been slashed by the bookies. Di Marzio has been claiming for weeks that he is Utd bound. I can't wait for all this shite to be over tbh. It's as bad as the last few months of Moyes. |
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In regards to giggs and him not having the pull of leering players to United.
I think we forget that he was a huge huge player in Europe and around the world , many players (xavi, zidane) talk very highly of giggs and Scholes . I think he would have the same pull as ex players like blanc, simeone and guardiola. Also we have to remember we are Manchester United and pretty much every player (bar Liverpool and city fans ) would relish playing for us, pretty much the same as managers. |
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In regards to giggs and him not having the pull of leering players to United.
I think we forget that he was a huge huge player in Europe and around the world , many players (xavi, zidane) talk very highly of giggs and Scholes . I think he would have the same pull as ex players like blanc, simeone and guardiola. Also we have to remember we are Manchester United and pretty much every player (bar Liverpool and city fans ) would relish playing for us, pretty much the same as managers. |
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How long do you think the line 'we are Manchester United and pretty much every player and manager would relish playing for us'will be accurate?
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It never has up until now.
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No it hasnt as you have been a guranteed top four and more likely top2 team for 20 years, but over the last couple of season you arent, and if that continues for a another couple then that aura and reputation wont be enough anymore will it?
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I think that Eddie's saying that we've never been able to attract the 'top' players, so in that respect, nothing's changed.
Then i refer my question to the original person who used the phrase, BB9 |
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In regards to giggs and him not having the pull of leering players to United.
I think we forget that he was a huge huge player in Europe and around the world , many players (xavi, zidane) talk very highly of giggs and Scholes . I think he would have the same pull as ex players like blanc, simeone and guardiola. Also we have to remember we are Manchester United and pretty much every player (bar Liverpool and city fans ) would relish playing for us, pretty much the same as managers. The career of a footballer is relatively short. Why would you risk going to a club with a rookie manager when there are potentially better options available? I'm sure Xavi and Co do speak very highly of GIggs, as a player. Giggs is even more of a gamble than Moyes was, at least he had managerial experience. If LVG hadn't been so crap GIggs may have been worth a gamble but he would potentially be walking into the same mess that LVG did. |
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We never signed the biggest names whilst Fergie was here and we were winning so I'm not too concerned. If anything we are more equipped for it now than back then!
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We never signed the biggest names whilst Fergie was here and we were winning so I'm not too concerned. If anything we are more equipped for it now than back then!
For the record, I reckon Man Utd and Liverpool still have the biggest aura in englishh football. |
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In regards to giggs and him not having the pull of leering players to United.
I think we forget that he was a huge huge player in Europe and around the world , many players (xavi, zidane) talk very highly of giggs and Scholes . I think he would have the same pull as ex players like blanc, simeone and guardiola. Also we have to remember we are Manchester United and pretty much every player (bar Liverpool and city fans ) would relish playing for us, pretty much the same as managers. |
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1st goal is huge, obvious i know but if utd take lead anytime before 85mins its gonna be a nerve wracking ending for liverpool
if i was klopp id set out to get that all important away goal as for city, they not in best of form and 4th is attainable for west ham,man utd and liverpool for sure. although my money would still be on city |
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