And he would get one. Maybe not as lucrative as his current deal, but he wouldn't be offered 'peanuts'.


Of course it would be a 'step down'. That's what happens to virtually all players who don't cut it at a club.

But, if he wants to play, and Mourinho decides that he's not up to it, then he won't have much choice.


Insightful.


Here's a wild thought: Perhaps Mourinho might consider altering the formation a bit, eh? Crazy talk, I know, but it's possible.


On paper, yes, I'd agree. However, there are other factors to consider. Manager's preference being the main one.

A well respected poster has already told us he's moved. The tweet offers no more information. If it were a link to an article it'd be different.

You've been pulled up for spamming the the thread with twitter links in the past, I'm not sure why you've started doing it again.

Hah, so much for me thinking he would get a 20 minute run out at the end.

I am not spamming at all, in the past I have been told if I am going to post something, make sure that I link to whomever or wherever I got it from, rather than trying to pass it as something that I wrote (if it came across like that), and that is exactly what I was doing here, yet it seems that no matter which angle on this I take, I am in the wrong.

Ahh well.



Yup, shame that we have to wait that bit longer, if it means he I'd more suited to our tactics by the time he plays, that will do for me.

No, people have told you not to copy and paste quotes from journalists without posting a link to the original article or at least mentioning the ideas are not your own. I'm simply asking you not to keep posting unnecessary links to tweets.

No need to be so touchy, I wouldn't have mentioned it if I knew you were going to react so badly!

Batdude:

"Of course a change of formation could happen, that would be a sensible thing to do, and I would expect that from Jose, as he seems to be a tactically flexible manager.

However, we were talking about options behind Martial, which again you deflect from, with Adnan now gone, if we were looking to play a person on the wide left, and we wanted to give Martial a rest, Memphis seems to be his stand in would you not at least concede that??"

You cocked-up the quoting, so it's gone to pot.

I'm not 'deflecting' from anything. I've given you an answer. You're just obviously incapable of thinking it through for yourself.

I'll spell it out for you. Four. Three. Three.

A front 3 of Rashford, Ibrahimovic and Mkhitaryan. And before you start whining about Rashford being a central striker, he's already played (and looked good) as a wide forward, so he's perfectly capable of playing there.

As for this bit: "if we were looking to play a person on the wide left, and we wanted to give Martial a rest, Memphis seems to be his stand in would you not at least concede that??"

I've nothing to concede. Please re-read the posts. Nowhere have I stated that Depay will not come in for Martial, should Martial be out.

'I wouldn't be surprised if...' does not mean 'This is definitely what will happen'.

If we do play 4-3-3 (as some think we will now Pogba has arrived) I'd say he's not even in the top six of attacking players who will be available in that formation.

Even if we play with more traditional wide players, I think his options will be limited due to the fact there are better defensive and attacking wide players to bring on during a game.

This is of course unless he looks absolutely fantastic in the games he does get a run out in (probably the league cup).

I think sometimes it can be helpful to post links to tweets but not if practically every other post is going to make a thread into some kind of RSS feed or personal blog. One of the attractions of posting here is to get away from twitter and facebook etc, rather than be just lead back there.

If a well respected and regular poster has already confirmed Januzaj has gone on loan what is the point of sharing Sunderlands tweet saying exactly that on a discussion board?

Like. Retweet.

We're being linked with Gabriel Barbosa, as are Chelsea.

The links appear to have stemmed from Santos' president confirming that they've held talks with both clubs about 'partnerships'.

That guy has been linked with everyone in Europe over the past week or so. Inter and Juve have made offers, and the Guardian were yesterday reporting that Leicester have made a £23m bid.

Yeah, it looks like it's a combination of the player wanting a move and the club fancying cashing in.

Great name. BARBOSA! Sounds like a Bond villain.

that tends to be how most transfers work...

A bundle of joy, as ever.

If you'd have managed to read between the lines, you'd have realised that I was implying that both parties are touting a move, regardless of any interest from other clubs.

Still, I'm sure that you know best.....zzzzzz.

Mourinho on Januzaj:

“He fits in my plans, that’s why he is on loan in the PL, if he doesn’t fit then we don’t care we send him to Dortmund,”

“We think he is a talented player but to be in the same squad as our players would mean not many matches.

“We cannot be selfish, we have to think about the players and he is in the right place with a manager that likes him.

“We want him back.”

Paying lip service? Januzaj would have to be immense for Sunderland, if he's going to make a go of it at United, I reckon.

Do we need another striker?
Maybe.

Barbosa I haven't seen or heard anything about him prior to this summer.
If we were I get another striker or forward player he would have to be happy to be a bench warmer, someone like lakazzette wouldn't want to come and play from the bench.

I'm not sure who would fit the bill.

What ever happened to the Mexican kid we were linked with early in the summer?

Paying lip service? Hmmmmm. I'm not sure. But looking deeper, if Jose means what he says, then that's got to be good news for Depay. If.

If Januzaj does anything decent at Sunderland it will simply mean we get a few more £££ for him when we inevitably flog him to the highest bidder next summer. There is no way he will play for us again.

Does it? Has there been many villians with similar names in those set of films, as I haven't watched many of them.

So I won't post where I got things from then, fair enough, I just wish that was made clear before it was made clear that I should say where I got things from!

As for what was the point, I was only merely confirming the fact with an official press release tweet, so it wasn't spam at all.

If you or anyone else old prefer the link to the official website (which I am guessing would say the same or something very similar), then fair enough.

I just wish that it is made clear one way or the other.

We are as usual an easy link, unless we sell a few players, I think our spending for the summer is done and dusted.

What a summer transfer window it was as well!

I can't wait now for tomorrow, and the Bournemouth match, even without Smalling and Pogba!

Yeah just a shop window opportunity for him up there, hopefully he does well enough to get us a good price for him.

No better way than by doing well on the opening day today against City!

The formation is of course important, and once that is sorted out, we will be able to better judge who will have a future here, and who will struggle.

4-3-3, would of course be a tough one for Depay, but until that is confirmed or not, then at the moment e would have to suggest that Depay is still in the managers plans and thoughts.

Hopefully we have not seen the last of him, as I do honestly think that there is a pretty darn good player within him, and I hope that we don't give up on him just yet.

I don't think that's what I've said at all bats. You're one of the best posters on here but it did look to me like Jamesp84 had said it and I think as he's also a very good and respected poster on the board its fair enough to take his word for it just as I think people will honestly take your word for it too. If its not evident from an obvious source like an official club website, Sky Sports News or the BBC that's when people are going to be asking for links. In your case you could have quoted James and said "confirmed by Sunderlands official twitter" and everyone would have give a thumbs up I'm sure. It just looked like an excuse to crowbar another twitter link.

The other day you posted seven times in quick succession and one contained a twitter link to a picture of the side of Paul Pogba's face. Do you not wonder why that might be seen as a bit ridiculous for a discussion board? If people want to use twitter, and I do regularly, they will. Some people more or less use it to have what they believe to be personal conversations with celebrities who have almost no chance of seeing what they posted!

I've seen some people also post articles that look suspiciously cut and pasted. Its stuff like that where people should say where it came from.

As I say mate you are one of my favourite posters on here but stuff like that is a bit of a head scratcher!