Yeah' I'd like to see a bit more of him. Some pace for sure.

Valencia are supposedly interested in Rojo.

I'd guess that any move might be dependent on them flogging Mustafi to Arsenal, as I'm sure that I've heard that they have money issues.

Just from the 10 minutes against Southampton you can see how good he can be, so with a whole match I am sure he would be a key part in a lot of goals and chances.

Unless they are angling for a loan deal?

Why do we seem to attract skint clubs when it comes to offloading unwanted players?

Unless Arsenal and Wenger suddenly have a major change of character, and actually do spend some money on a centre-back, then I can't really see that deal going through.

He seems quite happy to splash the cash on attacking players (Sanchez, Ozil) but not on players that really make or break a season, defenders.

So perhaps Valencia might want Rojo as an additional player then, shame that Gary is not there still, it might have been a bit easier to convince him to take Rojo from us.

He needs to be starting more games, he is an excellent player, and would bring so much more to the team, just thinking about him, Martial, and Pogba teaming up to create chances for Ibra, brings a huge smile to my face!

He needs to find some form, and quickly.

Would Jose play Memphis instead of him do you think?

Hopefully Martial starts playing well again, as a fit and firing player of his caliber, is something to marvel over!

Yeah, something's not right there. It's not like we don't have other options either.

I would be quite interested to see if Memphis has found his mojo, as if he has then, Martial could be under some severe pressure this season.

Mourinho isn't the kind of bloke to mess about, so I don't think he'd hesitate to stick Depay in, if he thought it best for the team. Personally, I'd give Martial a few more games, yet. We've played two and won two, and he's not been awful, just not at his best.


It could just be him adapting to the role assigned to him by a new manager. It might look the same as before, but we don't know if he's being asked to alter his game a bit.

I hope that it's nothing as ridiculous as the shirt number thing.

Lets see where we at after the derby, that will give us a far better idea of form and how the players are adapting to Jose and how he wants the players to play.

At the moment it is still very early, and the players are still trying to fully understand his ways and methods.

I don't think his ex airing all his dirty laundry continuously is doing him any favours either. She's getting a hefty sum in child maintenance by all accounts but getting involved in spats on social media with his current girlfriend as well as Martial ' s brother wading in as well. It's a bit of a mess.

He's still a young lad when all said and done.

Yeah we tend to forget at times that they are not robots, and are affected by normalities just like the rest of us.

If his home life is a bit of a mess, then that may well be affecting him on the pitch, hopefully for all concerned, one way or another, he finds a happy balance.

Arsenal have agreed a fee of £35m, for Mustafi.

Looks like you being unable to 'really see that deal going through' counts for little.

Be interesting to see if they do indeed lump a few shekels on Rojo.

Fair enough, a bit reminiscent of the time Arsenal brought in a few players right before the deadline a few years ago.

I wonder why they didn't sign him before now, it certainly cost them the three points against Liverpool not having got their transfer business in order before the season started.

Presumably, because Valencia have been holding out for more than Arsenal were willing to pay. They've now reached agreement.

There's no guarantee that they would have beaten Liverpool with him in the side. New to the league, little-to-no time with his new team mates, and Liverpool were fairly rampant, for a spell. To say that his absence cost them the 3 points is pretty hyperbolic.

He is a good enough defender that he would surely have done better than either one of the defenders that Arsenal put out in that match.
It is not as if they put in a performance which said that there could cope, and we're just unlucky on the day.

If Arsenal had been more proactive I do think that they could have got him before the season started, so they would have had cover for any injury that might have happened (of which they were really, really unlucky in the way that Gabriel was it went down in injury time in that friendly).

This does help them out, and does give them a much better squad depth then they previously had.

I haven't said otherwise. I just disagreed with your assertion that not having him 'cost them the 3 points'.


How long did it take us to sign Pogba? He's had no pre-season with us. Were we not 'pro-active' enough, or is it just the case that deals can sometimes take longer to agree than you would ideally like?

I do think having a solid defence available to Arsenal did cost them the three points against Liverpool.
If they had at last one experienced cebtre-back, then they might well have gotten the home win.
But we will never know for sure, so it is all conjecture really.

It did take us a while to get the Pogba deal done true, but the main thing was we got it done before he was available to play for us (due to his ban, he was always missing the first game no matter when he signed).

Mourinho was unaware of the ban when he signed and was actually going to play against Bournemouth.

Transfers are complex and when two sides cant agree a fee it takes the process a lot longer. Valencia have been holding off trying to get the best deal they can whilst at the same time monitoring replacements and making enquiries. The likely change now is Valencia have been told the replacement is available and now prepared to listen to Arsenal.

The reason United have managed to get the four transfers done quickly is because those teams who have sold us their players have already replaced them in some form but for Zlatan which was easy to complete. However what we'll see now is a vast exit of players surplus and likely on the cheap because we simply dont need them, Valencia get Rojo at a much cheaper price by waiting.

As for would Arsenal have beaten Liverpool having a different defender, nobody knows its hardily the first time Arsenal have lost the plot during a match and conceded back to back goals within minutes.

The Telegraph have reported that Mata, Jones and Darmian have been told that they're going nowhere, 'for now'.

Schweinsteiger is obviously available, but interestingly, they also claim that Depay would be allowed to go, if we got something like what we paid for him.

Pereira's loan to Fulham has fallen through.

Squad to be 're-assessed' in January, apparently.

We would be a bit short handed on the left side if Memphis were to be sold, so I would keep him until such time as we found a suitable replacement.

First team drawn out, so in group A.

Fenerbache along with us in Group A.