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The only thing that made me question what he'd go for was the comments about Mkhitaryan not necessarily being available for a full 90 minutes. Means Mata is likely to start and I'm not really sure about him in a counter-attacking team.
I'll be interested to see what Rooney does in this one. Guessing he'll be asked to play deeper than he has been playing this season despite what Mourinho has said about him before. |
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The only thing that made me question what he'd go for was the comments about Mkhitaryan not necessarily being available for a full 90 minutes. Means Mata is likely to start and I'm not really sure about him in a counter-attacking team.
I'll be interested to see what Rooney does in this one. Guessing he'll be asked to play deeper than he has been playing this season despite what Mourinho has said about him before. I'm not convinced that we'll just sit in, I expect a deep defensive line, but controlled possession when we have the chance, trying to get the full-backs as far forward as possible. I could be completely wrong, of course. Wouldn't be the first time. |
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There is that chance that we give Martial another chance, and drop Mata for Rashford, I'd be surprised if Lingard isn't close to full fitness either and that could be another option ahead of Mata. Though I'd say it's more than likely Mata will keep his place for this game, and we are due another big game from him in a high profile match, so he can keep his place for the next half season.
Either way, we have plenty of options with which to hurt City, and that should work in our favour, as if plan A is not working, then plans B C and even D are still more than capable of working out. |
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Yeah, that's fair comment, and I don't really see us counter-attacking in the traditional way. As you say, the pace just isn't there for it to really be effective.
I'm not convinced that we'll just sit in, I expect a deep defensive line, but controlled possession when we have the chance, trying to get the full-backs as far forward as possible. I could be completely wrong, of course. Wouldn't be the first time. The key I think will be attacking at pace their suspect fullbacks, and getting in good crosses, as their centrebacks do not look good at dealing with balls from wide areas, and that is one of our key strengths with Ibra in the team. |
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There is that chance that we give Martial another chance, and drop Mata for Rashford, I'd be surprised if Lingard isn't close to full fitness either and that could be another option ahead of Mata. Though I'd say it's more than likely Mata will keep his place for this game, and we are due another big game from him in a high profile match, so he can keep his place for the next half season.
I'm really not sure what we should do with Martial/Rashford in this one. Don't think we should play both, neither have looked good on the right when they've played there. Rashford has been in better form but I'd lean towards him starting on the bench for this one. Can't see Lingard coming straight back in. Quote:
Yeah, that's fair comment, and I don't really see us counter-attacking in the traditional way. As you say, the pace just isn't there for it to really be effective.
I'm not convinced that we'll just sit in, I expect a deep defensive line, but controlled possession when we have the chance, trying to get the full-backs as far forward as possible. I could be completely wrong, of course. Wouldn't be the first time. Been really surprised by Valencia so far this season. He seems so much more aggressive going forward, if we do push the full-backs up as much as possible we'll need him taking their left-back on a lot. |
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The pace could be there, as Martial, and Lingard are not exactly slouches if picked.
That would only leave Martial with decent pace in a forward position, which wouldn't be particularly conducive to counter-attacking play. Of course, we could play Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Mkhitaryan and Depay, if that's what Mourinho wanted to do. I don't see that happening. |
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I don't think that it would make a huge difference, but I'd be more happy with Sterling playing up top. He's in good form, but isn't as much of a natural finisher.
He gets played out wide most of the time but his best position is behind the striker. If he starts behind Iheanacho then he could cause problems, but I suspect there'll be someone else starting there ahead of him. If he starts up front then you should be okay, you just have to watch out for his pace, and Mourinho knows how to tighten a defence. |
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True, but I was responding to Zieler, under the assumption that Mata would play.
That would only leave Martial with decent pace in a forward position, which wouldn't be particularly conducive to counter-attacking play. Of course, we could play Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Mkhitaryan and Depay, if that's what Mourinho wanted to do. I don't see that happening. Quote:
Sterling isn't that good of a finisher. Liverpool played him there in 15/16 when Sturridge was injured and Balotelli was Balotelli. He got a few goals, he runs well with the ball at his feet, but his finishing can do with a lot of improvement.
He gets played out wide most of the time but his best position is behind the striker. If he starts behind Iheanacho then he could cause problems, but I suspect there'll be someone else starting there ahead of him. If he starts up front then you should be okay, you just have to watch out for his pace, and Mourinho knows how to tighten a defence. |
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I am hugely positive about 2mmrw in a way I wouldn't be with either of our previous two managers. City are a tough prospect and arguably better on paper, but we have raised our game. Out of our regulars, only Martial has under-performed for us, while even Rooney has provided the assists that were a glaring absence from his play last season.
And I can't wait to see Zlatan bully Stones ![]() It also helps that I have recently been reading Zlatan's autobiography and what he says about Guardiola is damning
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I am hugely positive about 2mmrw in a way I wouldn't be with either of our previous two managers. City are a tough prospect and arguably better on paper, but we have raised our game. Out of our regulars, only Martial has under-performed for us, while even Rooney has provided the assists that were a glaring absence from his play last season.
And I can't wait to see Zlatan bully Stones ![]() It also helps that I have recently been reading Zlatan's autobiography and what he says about Guardiola is damning ![]()
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I had a dream that I scored the opening goal after Pogba slotted the ball into the box and all I had to do was turn and whack it in. Here's hoping the dream was a prophecy about the match.
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Are you definitely in the starting xi?
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Are you definitely in the starting xi?
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I had a dream that I scored the opening goal after Pogba slotted the ball into the box and all I had to do was turn and whack it in. Here's hoping the dream was a prophecy about the match.
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That last bit is harsh IMO.
I'm really not sure what we should do with Martial/Rashford in this one. Don't think we should play both, neither have looked good on the right when they've played there. Rashford has been in better form but I'd lean towards him starting on the bench for this one. Can't see Lingard coming straight back in. Yeah, that sounds pretty plausible. Kinda sounds like our strategy in big home games under Fergie towards the end of his reign. Been really surprised by Valencia so far this season. He seems so much more aggressive going forward, if we do push the full-backs up as much as possible we'll need him taking their left-back on a lot. |
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Nice to talk to you Marcus!
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The nerves are kicking in good and proper now!
Surely the big game will be perfect for Ibra to perform,.........right?!!! |
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Shit, cover blown, just don't tell Mou or he'll bring Bebe back in my place
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The nerves are kicking in good and proper now!
Surely the big game will be perfect for Ibra to perform,.........right?!!! Quote:
Just as long as he doesn't bring back Prunier!
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De Gea, Valencia, Bailly, Blind, Shaw, Pogba, Fellaini, Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Lingard, Ibrahimovic
Subs: Romero, Smalling, Herrera, Mata, Schneiderlin, Martial, Rashford |
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De Gea, Valencia, Bailly, Blind, Shaw, Pogba, Fellaini, Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Lingard, Ibrahimovic
Subs: Romero, Smalling, Herrera, Mata, Schneiderlin, Martial, Rashford |
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De Gea, Valencia, Bailly, Blind, Shaw, Pogba, Fellaini, Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Lingard, Ibrahimovic
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De Gea, Valencia, Bailly, Blind, Shaw, Pogba, Fellaini, Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Lingard, Ibrahimovic
Subs: Romero, Smalling, Herrera, Mata, Schneiderlin, Martial, Rashford |
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Interesting after Jose's comments about Miki yesterday he starts. Lingard in, I did suggest it. Rashford possibly has to count himself unlucky after the Hull performance and also his hat trick for the U21's. However, he's a great player to come on and make a difference as he did against Hull if required.
Rashford can come on and turn the game with his pace against their tiring team in the second half. Hopefully now things go to plan! |
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F**king NOWTV payment system has crashed, unable to order it
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