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Man United Supporters Thread (Part 50)
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Eddie hunter
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I have never said otherwise, if players want to move due to unhappiness then it will be up to the club to try and woo them back and to try to make them happy, or if it is too far down the line, then selling them would seem to make sense.

I don't see this for example in Lukaku, as he seems very happy currently at Everton, so I don't see the need for them to sell him, certainly not from a financial point of view, the player would have to kick up a bit of a fuss, and really show that he wants a move, and so far, that doesn't seem like being the case.”

Just apply the principle thats all. Every time any player is mentioned you say that the club doesn't have to sell because of the tv deal and people say that if we offer enough the player will want to come. Its exactly the same thing as you saying we shouldn't keep players who are unhappy. Anyway thats the point I was making and thats all that needs to be said, dont want to get into anything when you are still suffering with your illness.
batdude_uk1
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by bobflemming:
“We need to score at least 3 goals and we bring on like for like subs!!!

We are a joke!”

The headlines certainly will not be good for LvG after this match, as going out in this fashion is just unpalatable really.
DoctorMuff
17-03-2016
I actually want Liverpool to score. The tie is gone. Why not just underline how f****** abysmal we've been recently.
Grim Fandango
17-03-2016
Had it not been for DDG we would have lost this 7-1 on aggregate.
NorthernNinny
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by RevengeofthMojo:
“Sorry, he's been a good servant but now is the time to consider whether Carrick has a place in the side.

He's becoming a liability.”

His time is up unfortunately.
d'@ve
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by DoctorMuff:
“I actually want Liverpool to score. The tie is gone. Why not just underline how f****** abysmal we've been recently.”

But at least we can concentrate on the league! More precisely, qualifying for next season's Europa league...
bobflemming
17-03-2016
Memphis played really well against midtjylland and Arsenal-his reward drop him for Felaini!
d'@ve
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by bobflemming:
“Memphis played really well against midtjylland and Arsenal-his reward drop him for Felaini!”

Varela struggled at Anfield, his reward... start him at O/T, help lose us a goal and force a wasted substitution. He's gonna be really full of confidence now. Not.
batdude_uk1
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by Eddie hunter:
“Just apply the principle thats all. Every time any player is mentioned you say that the club doesn't have to sell because of the tv deal and people say that if we offer enough the player will want to come. Its exactly the same thing as you saying we shouldn't keep players who are unhappy. Anyway thats the point I was making and thats all that needs to be said, dont want to get into anything when you are still suffering with your illness.”

I do apply the principal, the fact is all of this new money coming into all of the clubs,removes a lot of financial need to sell players, so any club coming in for a player, say us for Lukaku, the deal would have to be stupidly high and over the top for them to even consider it, as unlike with say the Rooney deal, where we just offered them a deal they could not really refuse, they can refuse offers and not be in trouble with the banks etc.
It is different times, and clubs will not be able to just offer cash as a sole reason to sign someone, it will have to be of the players own making (if we are talking a clubs prized asset).
Even then, a club will have to think long and hard about it, just look at Marne for example at Southampton, who kicked up a bit of a fuss at the beginning of the season, yet did he leave? No he didn't, so it will be harder to sign a clubs prized asset f they dig their heels in.
Eddie hunter
17-03-2016
As crap as we expected. Complete waste of time. Full back changes are the ultimate in embarrassment for me.
DoctorMuff
17-03-2016
Oh Liverpool make an attacking change. Brilliant.
Eddie hunter
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I do apply the principal, the fact is all of this new money coming into all of the clubs,removes a lot of financial need to sell players, so any club coming in for a player, say us for Lukaku, the deal would have to be stupidly high and over the top for them to even consider it, as unlike with say the Rooney deal, where we just offered them a deal they could not really refuse, they can refuse offers and not be in trouble with the banks etc.
It is different times, and clubs will not be able to just offer cash as a sole reason to sign someone, it will have to be of the players own making (if we are talking a clubs prized asset).
Even then, a club will have to think long and hard about it, just look at Marne for example at Southampton, who kicked up a bit of a fuss at the beginning of the season, yet did he leave? No he didn't, so it will be harder to sign a clubs prized asset f they dig their heels in.”

So we dont need to sell our unhappy players either then so your Van Gaal point is redundant.
Grim Fandango
17-03-2016
Hopefully this will cool the thickos who were suggesting Varela and every other young twit we can find should start ahead of our best players.
NorthernNinny
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by bobflemming:
“Memphis played really well against midtjylland and Arsenal-his reward drop him for Felaini!”

If our players are lacking in confidence this is one of the reasons why.
RevengeofthMojo
17-03-2016
Trevor Francis seems surprised Blind and Fellaini are playing in a more advanced position.....seriously?

Absolute muppet.
Tribec
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by Grim Fandango:
“Hopefully this will cool the thickos who were suggesting Varela and every other young twit we can find should start ahead of our best players.”

I hope the same rule applies to that dummy Mata then, he's done less than Fellaini of late, and done more damage to the team, so lets drop him as well.
SSReporters
17-03-2016
Valencia, Darmian, and Schweinsteiger are my go-tos when needing 3 goals to win.

I'm not angry. What benefit do we get out of winning this tie other than the possibility of the board being inspired to keep LVG around?
Grim Fandango
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by Tribec:
“I hope the same rule applies to that dummy Mata then, he's done less than Fellaini of late, and done more damage to the team, so lets drop him as well.”

Fine. I don't care about him.

I hate the people who argue that Jose shouldn't be appointed because we might sell sweet museum-visiting Juan Mata.
batdude_uk1
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by Eddie hunter:
“So we dont need to sell our unhappy players either then so your Van Gaal point is redundant.”

We don't need to from a financial point of view, it is just if they really wish to leave (and who could blame them currently??) would it be sensible to want to keep unhappy players?
Jamesp84
17-03-2016
I've worked out what Van Gaal is writing about. It's a study on Fellaini as a footballer and his effects on the public. Look forward to the book.
batdude_uk1
17-03-2016
And there we go, out we go, terrible, terrible.
NorthernNinny
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by SSReporters:
“Valencia, Darmian, and Schweinsteiger are my go-tos when needing 3 goals to win.

I'm not angry. What benefit do we get out of winning this tie other than the possibility of the board being inspired to keep LVG around?”

He's here till the end of the season anyway.

Then hopefully replaced with someone competent and able to fire a rocket up the ass of some of these players.
Jamesp84
17-03-2016
I'd be loathe to write off too many of our players under the current regime.
kendoguk
17-03-2016
Least we can't draw Dortmund now, that could have been something to watch
Eddie hunter
17-03-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“We don't need to from a financial point of view, it is just if they really wish to leave (and who could blame them currently??) would it be sensible to want to keep unhappy players?”

You are contradicting yourself.

On the one hand you have argued that players will not move to us whether they want to or not (unhappy or not) because clubs dont need to sell because of the TV money. Every player mentioned on here for months has been met with this reply from you and no mention of the players wishes.

Now when it comes to us the TV deal doesn't matter (which it doesn't in our case I just said it to get your response) and its ALL about the players feelings and of course in this case you think we should sell because "there is no point in keeping an unhappy player".
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