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Man United Supporters Thread (Part 50)
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Jamesp84
17-10-2016
Zlatan sticks that header away and it's the perfect job done.
Tribec
17-10-2016
Originally Posted by Fergie86:
“Would of preferred a win obviously but can live with a draw as it was more than i expected us to get before the game started. Overall we defended quite well to be fair and Herrera was superb, we should of attacked more to be fair and De Gea made 2 fantastic saves, onto the Europa League and then the Chelsea game. It could of been better but could of been worse.”

He and Fellaini had excellent games in the middle of the park, with the exception of the stupid booking right at the death, both had been really disciplined and snuffed a lot of Liverpool attacks out. It may not be the greatest midfield partnership, but tonight it worked.

Note also, felt consider all the press, and the comments from Hackett that the ref did a fine job. He showed that you don't need to pull the cards out in the first 5 minutes to control a game, and a game like this one either. I don't often praise the refs, but tonight he takes some credit, and I only hope that the Hackett and the press apologise to him for all the nonsense .
Jim De Ville
17-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Zlatan sticks that header away and it's the perfect job done.”

Completely agree.
Jamesp84
17-10-2016
This is going to have pissed off the scousers and the media (all Sky's hype for that?!) but in a sadistic way that was quite enjoyable. United have had some shockers against far worse Liverpool teams that that at Anfield so keeping a good team in excellent form at arms length was satisfying.
TheSloth
17-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“This is going to have pissed off the scousers and the media (all Sky's hype for that?!) but in a sadistic way that was quite enjoyable. United have had some shockers against far worse Liverpool teams that that at Anfield so keeping a good team in excellent form at arms length was satisfying.”

Turning it around, you're the first side not to score against us since Watford in May. Every cloud...
NorthernNinny
17-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“This is going to have pissed off the scousers and the media (all Sky's hype for that?!) but in a sadistic way that was quite enjoyable. United have had some shockers against far worse Liverpool teams that that at Anfield so keeping a good team in excellent form at arms length was satisfying.”

Totally agree.
Makosi's pants
17-10-2016
Mouriniho still has the knack.
batdude_uk1
17-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Zlatan sticks that header away and it's the perfect job done.”

He needs to get that goalscoring feeling back, as against Stoke he missed a good few chances, and here as well tonight, hopefully it comes back to him against Chelsea (or in the Europa League game if he plays).
Dixon
17-10-2016
Originally Posted by Makosi's pants:
“Mouriniho still has the knack.”

Of taking big games, destroying them as a spectacle and making you think there should be so much more to football than this tedious shit.
Better get used to it. It's shit or bust with this guy. You win the title, if not you are left with absolutely nothing.
This is not the UTD way and you all know it!!!
batdude_uk1
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Of taking big games, destroying them as a spectacle and making you think there should be so much more to football than this tedious shit.
Better get used to it. It's shit or bust with this guy. You win the title, if not you are left with absolutely nothing.
This is not the UTD way and you all know it!!!”

Let's see how the season pans out, we have played well before yesterday's game, and we still can after it.

We do need to start winning games though, draws are not really all that helpful.
NorthernNinny
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Of taking big games, destroying them as a spectacle and making you think there should be so much more to football than this tedious shit.
Better get used to it. It's shit or bust with this guy. You win the title, if not you are left with absolutely nothing.
This is not the UTD way and you all know it!!!”

The United way is a load of romantic cobblers imo. Fergie was his own man with his own style. We move on and look forward.
RichmondBlue
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Of taking big games, destroying them as a spectacle and making you think there should be so much more to football than this tedious shit.
Better get used to it. It's shit or bust with this guy. You win the title, if not you are left with absolutely nothing.
This is not the UTD way and you all know it!!!”

Are you haunting all the threads now, looking to wind up fans about Mourinho ?
A point away to Liverpool is a decent result, and United controlled most of the game. A loss would have meant Liverpool were six points clear, Mourinho played it fairly safe and United are still in touch. He's pragmatic and knows there's another 30 games to play, nothing wrong with that.
saint paul
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“This is going to have pissed off the scousers and the media (all Sky's hype for that?!) but in a sadistic way that was quite enjoyable. United have had some shockers against far worse Liverpool teams that that at Anfield so keeping a good team in excellent form at arms length was satisfying.”

Really? With all the world watching what's meant to be one of the world's biggest games it turns into a dire spectacle. At least Liverpool can go on to excite and entertain in future matches perhaps even win things, Man U just have anti-football and more Europa football to look forward to.
snafu65
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Of taking big games, destroying them as a spectacle and making you think there should be so much more to football than this tedious shit.
Better get used to it. It's shit or bust with this guy. You win the title, if not you are left with absolutely nothing.
This is not the UTD way and you all know it!!!”

It's not the Utd way to make it easy for teams to beat us either, which has happened too much over the last three seasons. You're just pissed because we didn't get turned over.
ags_rule
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“The United way is a load of romantic cobblers imo. Fergie was his own man with his own style. We move on and look forward.”

Exactly. People forget that whenever Fergie faced a better team - such as Barcelona - he set out to stifle the opposition as well.
NorthernNinny
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by saint paul:
“Really? With all the world watching what's meant to be one of the world's biggest games it turns into a dire spectacle. At least Liverpool can go on to excite and entertain in future matches perhaps even win things, Man U just have anti-football and more Europa football to look forward to.”

Boo hoo!

I couldn't care less about the world and his wife.

Did you watch the Stoke game or do you just cherry pick the games to get annoyed about?
Dixon
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Are you haunting all the threads now, looking to wind up fans about Mourinho ?
A point away to Liverpool is a decent result, and United controlled most of the game. A loss would have meant Liverpool were six points clear, Mourinho played it fairly safe and United are still in touch. He's pragmatic and knows there's another 30 games to play, nothing wrong with that.”

I am entitled to make a fair comment in any thread.
Listened to a phone in after the game and heard moans yet again about Jose and how he bores the shit out of these kinds of games to grind our results
Dose it wherever he goes. It is very fair to say that with the was his teams play he has to deliver the title otherwise fans will be left with next to nothing.
Utd built there name off the back of winning and exciting football. They would never have become the club that they are if they had done it Jose's way.
Dixon
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by snafu65:
“It's not the Utd way to make it easy for teams to beat us either, which has happened too much over the last three seasons. You're just pissed because we didn't get turned over. ”

Actually, a draw was the best result for Chelsea.
Dixon
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“Boo hoo!

I couldn't care less about the world and his wife.

Did you watch the Stoke game or do you just cherry pick the games to get annoyed about?”

Since when was UTD vs Stoke a big game worldwide
The complaint about Jose is his often hr sets his teams out not to lose the big games, rather than try to win them and how often the big games end up being ruined as a spectacle by his tactics.
Tribec
18-10-2016
So the old chestnut "The United Way" is being discussed again. Let's get one thing straight this was Busby's way, not Fergie's. However, both Busby and Fergie had to go through a period where by the teams they picked were more stubborn and practical than entertaining, and once they were hard to beat, and were winning they entertainment could be added. This United team need to learn how not to get beat again, and can then expand a bit more. We've already seen this season that a big defeat can have a huge effect on this team, so confidence needs building and if that means parking buses to avoid a confidence denting defeat by one of your biggest rivals so be it. You can rattle off the names of the greatest managers of all time and they'd do the same.

I'm going to say I'm with Jamesp84 in that I actually enjoyed the game, it wasn't entertainment, but it was a tactical challenge and one that was totally enjoyable. Neither side could say they played poor, neither could say they were better than the other. With all the pre game chatter about Liverpool being favourites and this that and the other, that result was a good oen and the very least we went for. I'm sure that if we'd been better than them, and repeating our performances against Leicester and Stoke, and come away with a draw we'd be disappointed, but it wasn't that sort of game, both teams came together and locked horns.
NorthernNinny
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Since when was UTD vs Stoke a big game worldwide
The complaint about Jose is his often hr sets his teams out not to lose the big games, rather than try to win them and how often the big games end up being ruined as a spectacle by his tactics.”

The press and the tv have been hyping this game up for weeks so the inevitable was bound to happen.

How many shots on target as the home side did Liverpool have ? Funny how we're getting all the moaning Minnie's pointing the finger at us though.

You need to stop getting so offended by what Jose is doing and appreciate what he has done for you.
RichmondBlue
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Since when was UTD vs Stoke a big game worldwide
The complaint about Jose is his often hr sets his teams out not to lose the big games, rather than try to win them and how often the big games end up being ruined as a spectacle by his tactics.”

I would think every sensible manager in the world sets out not to lose big games against their closest rivals. United made their name by winning things, plenty of teams have come and gone down the years who pleased the media and fans with attractive football for a season or two.
The_don1
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Since when was UTD vs Stoke a big game worldwide
The complaint about Jose is his often hr sets his teams out not to lose the big games, rather than try to win them and how often the big games end up being ruined as a spectacle by his tactics.”

Is it not up to the other team to come up with ways to combat these tactics? Or is Jose meant to take into account the lack of ability of the other manager and the other team and play to their strength just in the name of "entertainment"

If this has happened often surely by now someone (maybe someone on a phone in or a highly respected journalist could help) would have come up with a way of combating these tactics?

Once again Liverpool failed to live up to the hype of the game and did not take advantage of the opponents weaknesses not because they was not allowed to but because they lacked the tactical intelligence and ability to do so.
Jamesp84
18-10-2016
Basically, United didn't just turn up and allow Liverpool to win. Therefore we're anti football.
Jim De Ville
18-10-2016
I can't help but think that a lot of people watched the game with a skewed perspective. They saw what they wanted to see, in order to moan about Mourinho.

In reality, United did exactly what Mourinho said that he was going to do.

When Liverpool had the ball, we defended 'with 11 men'. Give them no space, and try to win the ball back as soon as possible. When we had the ball, we attacked. It wasn't 'gung-ho', but some of the movement and passing was decent. We probed, but Liverpool defended well. It was by no means a display of 'bus parking'.

And for 60 minutes it worked perfectly.

Of course, after the Lallana/Sturridge switch, Liverpool moved the ball a lot quicker and were much more fluid. At that point, and after Ibrahimovic fluffed that sitter from about 4 yards, then becoming more defensive made sense. Liverpool were the home side, they were always going to chuck everything at it in the last part of the game.

I thought that it was a far more impressive performance than against City.
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