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Old 18-10-2016, 14:01
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Not sure why people still get riled up by Mourinho and how he sets up his teams. You know in the big games he's going to be pragmatic and fairly defensive first and foremost. Unlikely to be pretty to watch but he more often than not gets the required result.

The only time it becomes an issue is if results don't go his way and your left with a team fighting for 4/5/6th but still not great to watch.

It's still too early to say with any confidence how this season will go for him and United.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:11
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So you agree that a point last night was not what we really needed?
It was not a "decent" or "good" point, not when put into a wider perspective of where we currently are in the league table.

Would you think a point in our next league match will be acceptable, or should we be actually wanting to win that match, and seeing anything else as a disappointment?

How big a gap to the sides at the top of the table is acceptable to you at this stage?
I said it was a "decent" result for United and still believe that to be true. Liverpool have been one of the "on form" teams so far this season and were favourites to win the game. United have ground to make up but that's because of a couple of surprise results. Losing against Watford and dropping points at home against Stoke left United playing catch-up. If those two games had gone the way most expected, United would be level on points at the top of the table. I haven't mentioned Man City result because they were flying high and (on paper) look nailed-on for the title.
United and Chelsea are roughly in the same boat at the moment. Neither of us expect to win the title, but Champions League football is almost a "must". We're both in touch with the top four and an away draw against one of our main rivals would look pretty good to me.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:01
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I said it was a "decent" result for United and still believe that to be true. Liverpool have been one of the "on form" teams so far this season and were favourites to win the game. United have ground to make up but that's because of a couple of surprise results. Losing against Watford and dropping points at home against Stoke left United playing catch-up. If those two games had gone the way most expected, United would be level on points at the top of the table. I haven't mentioned Man City result because they were flying high and (on paper) look nailed-on for the title.
United and Chelsea are roughly in the same boat at the moment. Neither of us expect to win the title, but Champions League football is almost a "must". We're both in touch with the top four and an away draw against one of our main rivals would look pretty good to me.
It is because of that very poor result at Watford, and the draw against Stoke, that means we really cannot afford to drop points on a regular basis, if we do wish to compete at the top.

Yes only eight games have gone, and there are plenty more left, but with so many good teams competing for only four places, when other teams do drop points, we need to take advantage of that.
Sadly we didn't do that last night, instead, e allowed City, Spurs and Everton to go unpunished, which is terribly annoying.

Normally, I would say a point away at Liverpool would be an okay result, but it is about looking at the league table as whole, and so far we are seventh, with a bit of a gap starting to form, we need to make sure that gap doesn't keep on increasing, to say 10 plus points, as that is when it would become very tough to overhaul.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:20
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Not sure why people still get riled up by Mourinho and how he sets up his teams. You know in the big games he's going to be pragmatic and fairly defensive first and foremost. Unlikely to be pretty to watch but he more often than not gets the required result.

The only time it becomes an issue is if results don't go his way and your left with a team fighting for 4/5/6th but still not great to watch.

It's still too early to say with any confidence how this season will go for him and United.
It's because for some their night was spoiled because we didn't get hammered as predicted so they want to have a moan.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:43
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It's because for some their night was spoiled because we didn't get hammered as predicted so they want to have a moan.
All of which is a load of rollocks
You know full well many people have been having a go at his sterile football ever since he arrived at Chelsea all those years ago.
There is no 'agenda' against him. People see what he does in big games time and time again and they don't like what they see. simple as that!
It was exactly the same at RM where he turned the biggest, most glam club games in the world into an ugly scrap.
He might be good for the club he manages at the time for a short period, but overall he is bad for football in general at the top level.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:50
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All of which is a load of rollocks
You know full well many people have been having a go at his sterile football ever since he arrived at Chelsea all those years ago.
There is no 'agenda' against him. People see what he does in big games time and time again and they don't like what they see. simple as that!
It was exactly the same at RM where he turned the biggest, most glam club games in the world into an ugly scrap.
He might be good for the club he manages at the time for a short period, but overall he is bad for football in general at the top level.
They scored over 100 league goals every season he was there and set the Spanish record for most goals in a season (121). Your agenda is pathetic.
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:56
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They scored over 100 league goals every season he was there and set the Spanish record for most goals in a season (121). Your agenda is pathetic.
Sunderland would probably score 75 goals a season
in a league with so many extremely small and weak teams.
He was not liked by many RM fans with many of the very happy to see him leave. It is a well known fact his turned the RM vs Barca games into ugly scraps.
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Old 18-10-2016, 17:03
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All of which is a load of rollocks
You know full well many people have been having a go at his sterile football ever since he arrived at Chelsea all those years ago.
There is no 'agenda' against him. People see what he does in big games time and time again and they don't like what they see. simple as that!
It was exactly the same at RM where he turned the biggest, most glam club games in the world into an ugly scrap.
He might be good for the club he manages at the time for a short period, but overall he is bad for football in general at the top level.
I couldn't give a monkeys about what he did at Chelsea but he did win you a few pots. You just seem to have a real issue with him which overrides the gratitude you should have for what he did for your team.

Your hatred for him is what I'd expect a Liverpool fan to be well within their rights to have.
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Old 18-10-2016, 17:17
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Sunderland would probably score 75 goals a season
in a league with so many extremely small and weak teams.
Utter rubbish.

He was not liked by many RM fans with many of the very happy to see him leave. It is a well known fact his turned the RM vs Barca games into ugly scraps.
How did your big hero Benitez get on, at Madrid? Let's ask Wikipedia...

"He was sacked on 4 January 2016, following allegations of unpopularity with supporters, displeasure with players and a failure to get good results against top sides."
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Old 18-10-2016, 17:20
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Sunderland would probably score 75 goals a season
in a league with so many extremely small and weak teams.
He was not liked by many RM fans with many of the very happy to see him leave. It is a well known fact his turned the RM vs Barca games into ugly scraps.
Consider most teams in that league don't score that many goals, Its highly unlikely that is true, In fact I am pretty sure you know that is not true.

The records broken that season (and there was quite a few) was there because no team had performed at that level before and some prob still stand so have not performed to that level since, So if it so easy to do so why are they records?

RM fans are well known to turn very quickly on managers/players etc for no reason whatsoever so them "not liking" him is not really relevant, All you have to do is read recent comments about Jose and ones from the same poster(s) from awhile ago to see how quickly comments change, That's why quite often its best to dismiss peoples opinions on things like this and look if the facts back up those "opinions" and all to often with situations like this they don't
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Old 18-10-2016, 17:24
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Utter rubbish.



How did your big hero Benitez get on, at Madrid? Let's ask Wikipedia...

"He was sacked on 4 January 2016, following allegations of unpopularity with supporters, displeasure with players and a failure to get good results against top sides."
My big hero
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Old 18-10-2016, 17:27
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I couldn't give a monkeys about what he did at Chelsea but he did win you a few pots. You just seem to have a real issue with him which overrides the gratitude you should have for what he did for your team.

Your hatred for him is what I'd expect a Liverpool fan to be well within their rights to have.
Errr for starters, i don't hate Jose.
Don't like his ideas on how to play football, that is all.
The person I have real gratitude for is Roman.
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Old 18-10-2016, 18:11
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Not sure why people still get riled up by Mourinho and how he sets up his teams. You know in the big games he's going to be pragmatic and fairly defensive first and foremost. Unlikely to be pretty to watch but he more often than not gets the required result.

The only time it becomes an issue is if results don't go his way and your left with a team fighting for 4/5/6th but still not great to watch.

It's still too early to say with any confidence how this season will go for him and United.
You made my point for me.

You know what you're getting with Mourinho. If you don't like Mourinho or his style of football, and you choose to watch Mourinho go away to a big club, and good attacking team in better form, you can't then be surprised or disappointed that he didn't go all out for 90 minutes. And if you're a Chelsea fan that doesn't like Mourinho or his style of football then you more than anyone would know this. He did what he was always going to do. He got what he set out to achieve. He had a game plan and it worked. It's not entertaining but it works. If he tried to beat Liverpool at their own game they risk being exposed.

He'll probably do the same next week. Stamford Bridge is always a tough ground to go to. A point there is always a good result. Of course you'd want all three points, and for some reason some people require you to point out that three is better than one. But league titles aren't won or lost on two points dropped at Anfield or Stamford Bridge, but the results against the likes of Stoke and Watford.

If you don't like Mourinho or his style of football, and chose to watch him against a big team in good form away from home, then you only have yourself to blame if you wasted two hours of your life. If you aren't a Liverpool or Man United fan then you have no obligation to watch the game.

There is no 'agenda' against him. People see what he does in big games time and time again and they don't like what they see. simple as that!
And yet you chose to watch it, while presumably getting what you were expecting. Did you gamble two hours of your life in the hopes that he'll surprise you? Or that Liverpool could get an early lead and open the game up? It's a possibility, but you couldn't rely on that to be able to enjoy a game.
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Old 18-10-2016, 19:18
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Sunderland would probably score 75 goals a season
in a league with so many extremely small and weak teams.

He was not liked by many RM fans with many of the very happy to see him leave. It is a well known fact his turned the RM vs Barca games into ugly scraps.
I think this is the stupidest thing anyone has posted in this thread and there is heavy competition. Congratulations.
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Old 18-10-2016, 21:20
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Let's remember how well and dominant the Spanish league has been in European competitions, so they are not exactly full of weak or poor sides.
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Old 19-10-2016, 08:41
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Good news everyone, after all the fuss about the appointment of Taylor for the Liverpool game, and the perceived bias that would give United for the Chelsea game it's swung the other way..........

They've appointed Martin Atkinson for the Chelsea game, just how many bad/dodgy calls has he made in this fixture over the years?? Our chances of a draw went down with this appointment, let alone a win.
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Old 19-10-2016, 09:05
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What sort of team are we expecting to see in our Europa League game tomorrow, seeing as we have the Chelsea game quite soon afterwards?

Memphis to start perhaps?
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Old 19-10-2016, 09:51
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What sort of team are we expecting to see in our Europa League game tomorrow, seeing as we have the Chelsea game quite soon afterwards?

Memphis to start perhaps?
Similar side to that we've used before in this competition, till we qualify from the group expect it to be a fairly strong side.
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Old 19-10-2016, 10:00
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Similar side to that we've used before in this competition, till we qualify from the group expect it to be a fairly strong side.
We might need to win this tournament to qualify for following years Champions League (hope not, much prefer to qualify via the league table), so I would agree with you in that we may see a good side put out, especially after our defeat over in Holland, which means that we have to win these home matches.
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Old 19-10-2016, 20:37
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Don't know if this has been posted yet but excellent news for any of us without BT Sport - United vs. Fenerbache will be live on BT Sport Showcase, which is available on Freeview.

In short - United for free on the tele tomorrow night
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Old 19-10-2016, 21:09
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Don't know if this has been posted yet but excellent news for any of us without BT Sport - United vs. Fenerbache will be live on BT Sport Showcase, which is available on Freeview.

In short - United for free on the tele tomorrow night
Watch this, tape The Missing and then watch after the match.

Telly sorted for tomorrow night.
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Old 19-10-2016, 22:32
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Telly sorted for tomorrow night.
The highlight the other night for me, was the POGBA advert at halftime , is that wot yer talking about Ninny . ?
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Old 19-10-2016, 22:56
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Watch this, tape The Missing and then watch after the match.

Telly sorted for tomorrow night.
The Missing? Is that the documentary about the last two years of Wayne Rooney's career?
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Old 19-10-2016, 23:15
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The Missing? Is that the documentary about the last two years of Wayne Rooney's career?
It was on tonight but I was too busy watching city I forgot about it.
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Old 20-10-2016, 01:28
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Some great news.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...-contract.aspx

Great to have him locked in for a good while longer.
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