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Old 19-03-2016, 18:07
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A repeat of last seasons game where we scored four wouldn't go a miss (although that was at Old Trafford), sadly it is probably more likely that we would concede four this time around.
We seem incapable of taking advantage this season and need a 3 goal win. Can see us firmly in 6th place still after the game
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:07
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Talk of Real getting rid of Isco, James and Kroos this summer. Wouldn't mind one or two of those.
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:10
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Talk of Real getting rid of Isco, James and Kroos this summer. Wouldn't mind one or two of those.
There was rumours that mourinho was tapping up Kroos ready for the summer. I'd pass on the other two, not sure they are the type to settle properly over here
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:13
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There was rumours that mourinho was tapping up Kroos ready for the summer. I'd pass on the other two, not sure they are the type to settle properly over here
Yeah, Kroos would be my first choice from that trio, a very good replacement for the almost certain to be departing Michael Carrick. I have the same concerns regarding the other two but they'd be exciting signings and, if they did manage to settle in, would be a major upgrade on Jess Lingard!
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:29
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Yeah, Kroos would be my first choice from that trio, a very good replacement for the almost certain to be departing Michael Carrick. I have the same concerns regarding the other two but they'd be exciting signings and, if they did manage to settle in, would be a major upgrade on Jess Lingard!
Oh yea definitely but then so would Stevie wonder. At least he might entertain at half time
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:35
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There was rumours that mourinho was tapping up Kroos ready for the summer. I'd pass on the other two, not sure they are the type to settle properly over here
All three would be upgrades on what we have currently, but due to the animosity between both clubs I doubt that we could sign a player from them without giving them a deal for De Gea.
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:47
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Just seen this.
10 of van Gaal's stupidest decisions whilst in charge of us.

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer...-34555089.html

When it's written down it makes for a damning read.

From James Wilson being loaned, his substitutions against liverpool and chicarito being sold he has made some absolute whoppers .

This list could have been doubled even quadrupled.
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:51
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Just seen this.
10 of van Gaal's stupidest decisions whilst in charge of us.

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer...-34555089.html

When it's written down it makes for a damning read.

From James Wilson being loaned, his substitutions against liverpool and chicarito being sold he has made some absolute whoppers .

This list could have been doubled even quadrupled.
I would say making Hernandez unhappy to want to leave was the bigger mistake, rather than selling him, also not replacing him with another experienced senior striker was also a mistake.
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:56
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I would say making Hernandez unhappy to want to leave was the bigger mistake, rather than selling him, also not replacing him with another experienced senior striker was also a mistake.
Erm yep .
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:57
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Just seen this.
10 of van Gaal's stupidest decisions whilst in charge of us.

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer...-34555089.html

When it's written down it makes for a damning read.

From James Wilson being loaned, his substitutions against liverpool and chicarito being sold he has made some absolute whoppers .

This list could have been doubled even quadrupled.
The only ones in there to criticise him for are selling Hernandez ,not signing central defenders, and the Liverpool subs. Although that Liverpool game is only one of many where his subs have been stupid.

The rest of it though smacks of desperation. Loaning Wilson is no biggie as he wasn't going to be playing. Most united fans seemed to be shouting that wellbeck was rubbish and neither him or Wilson are exactly tearing up trees where they are.

Removing a fitness coach is nothing. We had stupid amounts of injuries anyway and have done for years, it makes no difference.

Walking out of press conferences is one reason I love him even if it hasn't worked out here.

Falcao was the right transfer. 6 million to get what used to be one of the most feared strikers in the game into the club was genius. If it worked we keep him if it didn't, which it didn't, then we haven't lost much.

The carrick and de gea ones are just filler
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:58
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Just seen this.
10 of van Gaal's stupidest decisions whilst in charge of us.

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer...-34555089.html

When it's written down it makes for a damning read.

From James Wilson being loaned, his substitutions against liverpool and chicarito being sold he has made some absolute whoppers .

This list could have been doubled even quadrupled.
Vast majority of these are nonsense and weren't seen as a problem at the time. It's easy for people to be wise after the event.

Tactics team selection and style of play are enough to have a genuine complaint about.
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Old 19-03-2016, 18:59
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The only ones in there to criticise him for are selling Hernandez ,not signing central defenders, and the Liverpool subs. Although that Liverpool game is only one of many where his subs have been stupid.

The rest of it though smacks of desperation. Loaning Wilson is no biggie as he wasn't going to be playing. Most united fans seemed to be shouting that wellbeck was rubbish and neither him or Wilson are exactly tearing up trees where they are.

Removing a fitness coach is nothing. We had stupid amounts of injuries anyway and have done for years, it makes no difference.

Walking out of press conferences is one reason I love him even if it hasn't worked out here.

Falcao was the right transfer. 6 million to get what used to be one of the most feared strikers in the game into the club was genius. If it worked we keep him if it didn't, which it didn't, then we haven't lost much.

The carrick and de gea ones are just filler
Your autocorrect is nearly as bad as mine!
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:00
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Unfortunately for me he is going to be remembered for bizarre subs. Powell coming in against Wolfsburg mainly along with the obsession with changing fullbacks all the time
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:01
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Your autocorrect is nearly as bad as mine!
Yea read that and immediately edited but you caught me out
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:11
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Unfortunately for me he is going to be remembered for bizarre subs. Powell coming in against Wolfsburg mainly along with the obsession with changing fullbacks all the time
Yeah the subs have been totally bizarre at times, and totally unfathomable.
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:15
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Not replacing Hernandez was a mistake, you might as well have kept him on. After all, there's no harm in keeping an unhappy player now, is there?
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:19
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Not replacing Hernandez was a mistake, you might as well have kept him on. After all, there's no harm in keeping an unhappy player now, is there?
It would have been best to have brought someone else in, which could have done a similar job to what we were looking for Hernandez to do.
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:22
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It'd be best to replace Hernandez with someone who does the same as him? Given the reason he wasn't in favour I don't see how that would've worked.
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:28
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Herrera and Varela not in squad for tomorrow.
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:41
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The only ones in there to criticise him for are selling Hernandez ,not signing central defenders, and the Liverpool subs. Although that Liverpool game is only one of many where his subs have been stupid.

The rest of it though smacks of desperation. Loaning Wilson is no biggie as he wasn't going to be playing. Most united fans seemed to be shouting that wellbeck was rubbish and neither him or Wilson are exactly tearing up trees where they are.

Removing a fitness coach is nothing. We had stupid amounts of injuries anyway and have done for years, it makes no difference.

Walking out of press conferences is one reason I love him even if it hasn't worked out here.

Falcao was the right transfer. 6 million to get what used to be one of the most feared strikers in the game into the club was genius. If it worked we keep him if it didn't, which it didn't, then we haven't lost much.

The carrick and de gea ones are just filler
Was it only £6 million for Falcao? I thought it worked out at about 18 million. That could have included his wages though.
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Old 19-03-2016, 19:56
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Was it only £6 million for Falcao? I thought it worked out at about 18 million. That could have included his wages though.
As far as I know it was a 6million loan fee. Wages aren't usually taken into account when talking about fees unless it's people trying to argue something was less value.

I might be wrong though
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Old 19-03-2016, 20:08
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As far as I know it was a 6million loan fee. Wages aren't usually taken into account when talking about fees unless it's people trying to argue something was less value.

I might be wrong though
Or when players sign for City, then it's fee, wages, flight tickets, coach transfers and new boots!

Was gutted when you got Falcao but thankfully for us it didn't work out.
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Old 19-03-2016, 20:19
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Or when players sign for City, then it's fee, wages, flight tickets, coach transfers and new boots!
Don't forget the cost of birthday cakes!
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Old 19-03-2016, 21:44
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De Gea
Darmain
Smalling
Shaw
Schneiderlin
Schweinsteiger
Herrera
Carrick
Blind
Depay
Rooney
Martial
Mata

These are all players who have played brilliantly under different managers or were brilliant when we signed them, started well and got worse as they settled into the Van Gaal regime.

We either accept that they are all crap or we accept that they are underperforming.
They are playing to a standard less than the sum of thier parts but I'm just not sure about how far this particular squad could go even under a decent manager.

The good:

Martial, Shaw, Smalling (mostly) and De Gea have been consistently good- excellent. And Blind has been so reliable that he stands out like a streaker on the pitch when he has bad games - but he will always suffer from a lack of pace.

The Bad:

Schwiny and Carrick are past it for me. Fellani tries hard but lacks the true quality we need in CM. Rooney... I should really put him in the class below but the truth is if he never kicks a ball for United again, how many of us would see it as the loss it would have been even two years ago?

The Variable:

Darmain, Schneiderlin, Herrera, Mata and especially Depay have more to give. Possibly LVG's biggest failure is not getting the best out of those guys. But while we can't expect much from certain players due to age or simply not having the class we need, can it really all be LVG's fault that so much of our first team squad has been so lacklustre? I'm not saying he shouldn't go mind, I came round to that way of thinking long ago. But when I see the "good" players (and thinking about it, that includes the much-maligned Ashley Cole) doing their damndest I do wonder sometimes if players who often go missing for us like Schneiderlin have what it takes. One of the less obvious things I'm looking forward to when LVG goes is open player discussion on just exactly what has gone on this season. It could be a masterclass in how not to man-manage for any future OT boss.

We can't keep making 5 or 6 signings every summer. It does nothing for team spirit, cohesion or continuity.
I think we just need four or five for this summer and then we can more or less shut-up shop for a couple of seasons. We have good young first-team talent everywhere except midfield and centre-half. And with De Gea going, we will probably need to screen our goal a little better!

P.S Tony Kroos? Yes thanks very much.
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Old 19-03-2016, 21:55
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Good analysis if the current situation Makosi.

Hopefully De Gea is not off, as that would be very disheartening, but who could really blame him?
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