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I cam see the media trying to hype it up, we definitely have to pick up the three points, anything else and I will join you in being right royally pissed off.
I was underwhelmed by his appointment but reluctantly thought he would turn it around. His poor little me hangdog expression and jibes since mind want to make me put my foot through the telly. Even Luis Suarez doesn't piss me off as much as Moyes. |
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I am not trying to get anything from them, all I am doing is replying to a post, same as any other post, if I get a reply great, if not, it doesn't matter.
I am not baiting anyone, that is not what I do, nor is that ever my intention. |
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Valencia has been given a 2 year contract extension, deserves it on current form
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#9104 |
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Hopefully he will have a good reception as it was not all his fault that Man United were struggling that season. The board should have backed him at the start of the season. And we would have known if Moyes would have been good enough to get them to them to finish in the top four. But sadly we will never know
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#9105 |
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The board did back him
He was after so many players. And all he bought was Marouane Felliani and then Juan Mata in January |
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#9106 |
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How did the board back him
He was after so many players. And all he bought was Marouane Felliani and then Juan Mata in January |
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#9107 |
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No. The press said he was after players as they always do with Man United. The club is linked with every player under the sun. The board backed Moyes the same they have done every manager with as much money as is required. Moyes decided not to spend the funds available to him. That was his fault and his alone. The fact he even bought Felliani for a ridiculous price is proof the board supported him.
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He did not decide to not spend the money. He was after players. But they were either too expensive or they did not want to come. The board did not do enough to find more quality players for the team. I think they were after Fabregas for nearly the whole summer. And they knew he would not come but still decided to pursue him
To be frank judging from your posting history im not sure you even know whats going on at your own club, let alone someone elses. |
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If they knew he wouldnt come but still pursued him then how in hell did the board not support him???
To be frank judging from your posting history im not sure you even know whats going on at your own club, let alone someone elses. So how can you say the board backed him when he only bought one player who was never their target. If the board was backing him, then they would have bought players that they needed. The club getting one player which they never wanted is not backing the manager |
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He did not decide to not spend the money. He was after players. But they were either too expensive or they did not want to come. The board did not do enough to find more quality players for the team. I think they were after Fabregas for nearly the whole summer. And they knew he would not come but still decided to pursue him
They did not want to come? To the premier league league champions? Maybe they got a whiff of him being small time before we did and thought better of it? Since when was it down to the board to find the players? He was practically a modern day Phileus Fogg trotting around looking for players at one point. Maybe he should have spent more time trying to instil a winning mentality into the players he already had? You know the ones who had more trophies than he could shake a stick at. Of course the squad did need some reinforcements but he appeared to sit on his hands during the summer. Did any United fans realistically think Fabregas was going to come to us? That summer transfer shambles started his whole sorry time at United. |
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The clubs focus was to get Fabregas at all costs. They looked at other players but their main target was Fabregas as they felt that he was the player that they needed. And by focusing so much on getting Fabregas they never bothered with strengthing the other positions in the team like a new center back. Thats why Moyes bought Felliani because he was desperate to get a player in before the transfer window shut
So how can you say the board backed him when he only bought one player who was never their target. If the board was backing him, then they would have bought players that they needed. The club getting one player which they never wanted is not backing the manager You do not understand how it works at United. The manager picks the players, picks how much we are willing to bid etc. and the board follow his instructions (obviously within reason but as Pogba, Di Maria, Martial etc show that in reality, the board will pay whatever it takes). Moyes pulled us out of the race for Thiago, underbid for Fabregas when a few million more would have got him, waited until after Di Rossi's deadline expired before bidding for him, left it too late to get round the loopholes in Herrera's clause, waited until Madrid couldn't find a replacement in time for Coentrao etc. The board backed him, as they backed Fergie, Van Gaal and Mourinho. The difference is those managers knew what they wanted. Moyes was utterly inept and paid the price and it's idiotic that people are still trying to excuse his pathetic display as United manager. |
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Too expensive ? United spent over 70 million while Moyes was manager so the money was available.
They did not want to come? To the premier league league champions? Maybe they got a whiff of him being small time before we did and thought better of it? Since when was it down to the board to find the players? He was practically a modern day Phileus Fogg trotting around looking for players at one point. Maybe he should have spent more time trying to instil a winning mentality into the players he already had? You know the ones who had more trophies than he could shake a stick at. Of course the squad did need some reinforcements but he appeared to sit on his hands during the summer. Did any United fans realistically think Fabregas was going to come to us? That summer transfer shambles started his whole sorry time at United. Can you tell me why Van Gaal was more trusted to get the players he wanted more than Moyes. If the board never trusted him to buy the players then they should not have hired him in the first place |
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The clubs focus was to get Fabregas at all costs. They looked at other players but their main target was Fabregas as they felt that he was the player that they needed. And by focusing so much on getting Fabregas they never bothered with strengthing the other positions in the team like a new center back. Thats why Moyes bought Felliani because he was desperate to get a player in before the transfer window shut
So how can you say the board backed him when he only bought one player who was never their target. If the board was backing him, then they would have bought players that they needed. The club getting one player which they never wanted is not backing the manager The club buying fellaini because moyes wanted him is backing the manager. The club paying over the odds for fellaini because the manager wanted him is very much backing the manager. You're talking rubbish about a subject you clearly know nothing about with your whole Knowledge based on newspaper rumours. I'm expecting you to say the club aren't supporting mourinho next because they haven't bought him gaitan and sjneider considering we have been linked with them for years. |
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So Ed Woodward was not to blame during that summer when they were desperate for a midfielder. If David Gill was still there then the club would have bought players that were needed. Moyes wanted Fabregas but he was after other players as well
Can you tell me why Van Gaal was more trusted to get the players he wanted more than Moyes. If the board never trusted him to buy the players then they should not have hired him in the first place I don't think they expected Moyes to clear out a successful backroom team and bring in a bunch of nobodies. Maybe the idea was that Moyes could build on the success from the previous season, add two or three decent players (Moyes had done a decent job at Everton recruiting players) and if he could get top 4 it would be regarded as a good season? Fergie and Gill both leaving together didn't help but Moyes had to take responsibility for that summer shambles. |
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The board dropped a massive bollock that is true but maybe they and Fergie were sold a dummy?
I don't think they expected Moyes to clear out a successful backroom team and bring in a bunch of nobodies. Maybe the idea was that Moyes could build on the success from the previous season, add two or three decent players (Moyes had done a decent job at Everton recruiting players) and if he could get top 4 it would be regarded as a good season? Fergie and Gill both leaving together didn't help but Moyes had to take responsibility for that summer shambles. |
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How on earth can you say the board never supported him and then say do you think the board should have said no when told he wanted to buy him?
That makes absolutely no sense. I suggest you just stop now and go back to your own clubs thread to be honest. |
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#9117 |
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What did you think of Moyes when he bought Felliani when we all know that he was not his target. Because i dont think Moyes had that much free rein on transfers at the time. So i dont why he thought Felliani would improve the team
You seem to want to absolve Moyes of any responsibility for his own downfall. |
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Valencia has been given a 2 year contract extension, deserves it on current form
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Why would we buy Fellani if he wasn't Moyes's choice? He wanted both Baines and Fellani but Everton didn't want to sell Baines to us. That's why the Everton fans gave him so much stick for coming back to poach two of his old players.
You seem to want to absolve Moyes of any responsibility for his own downfall. I think Van Gaal was heavily backed finacially because they knew they could trust him to buy the right players. Moyes never had that trust |
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No. I just think it was not all his fault
I think Van Gaal was heavily backed finacially because they knew they could trust him to buy the right players. Moyes never had that trust |
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If they didn't trust him they wouldn't have hired him.
Why did Man United hire a manager they never wanted in the first place. They only hired him because Sir Alex recommended him. Im sure their first target was Mourinho but he was at Chelsea at the time. But decided to hire Moyes on Sir Alex recommendation which at the time was very strange |
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Im sure their first target was Mourinho but he was at Chelsea at the time
On 9 May 2013, Manchester United announced that Moyes would take over the club following Alex Ferguson's retirement as manager. On 3 June 2013, Chelsea appointed Mourinho as manager for the second time, on a four-year contract. |
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On 9 May 2013, Manchester United announced that Moyes would take over the club following Alex Ferguson's retirement as manager.
On 3 June 2013, Chelsea appointed Mourinho as manager for the second time, on a four-year contract. |
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#9124 |
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Mourinho wanted the job.
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Mourinho wanted the job.
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