The press will love it if we drop points. Some kind of affirmation that he was wronged and we should have given him more time and money.

I was underwhelmed by his appointment but reluctantly thought he would turn it around. His poor little me hangdog expression and jibes since mind want to make me put my foot through the telly.

Even Luis Suarez doesn't piss me off as much as Moyes.

So it IS about post count then. Glad thats finally confirmed.

Valencia has been given a 2 year contract extension, deserves it on current form

The board did back him

How did the board back him

He was after so many players. And all he bought was Marouane Felliani and then Juan Mata in January

No. The press said he was after players as they always do with Man United. The club is linked with every player under the sun. The board backed Moyes the same they have done every manager with as much money as is required. Moyes decided not to spend the funds available to him. That was his fault and his alone. The fact he even bought Felliani for a ridiculous price is proof the board supported him.

He did not decide to not spend the money. He was after players. But they were either too expensive or they did not want to come. The board did not do enough to find more quality players for the team. I think they were after Fabregas for nearly the whole summer. And they knew he would not come but still decided to pursue him

If they knew he wouldnt come but still pursued him then how in hell did the board not support him???

To be frank judging from your posting history im not sure you even know whats going on at your own club, let alone someone elses.

The clubs focus was to get Fabregas at all costs. They looked at other players but their main target was Fabregas as they felt that he was the player that they needed. And by focusing so much on getting Fabregas they never bothered with strengthing the other positions in the team like a new center back. Thats why Moyes bought Felliani because he was desperate to get a player in before the transfer window shut

So how can you say the board backed him when he only bought one player who was never their target. If the board was backing him, then they would have bought players that they needed. The club getting one player which they never wanted is not backing the manager

Too expensive ? United spent over 70 million while Moyes was manager so the money was available.

They did not want to come? To the premier league league champions? Maybe they got a whiff of him being small time before we did and thought better of it?

Since when was it down to the board to find the players? He was practically a modern day Phileus Fogg trotting around looking for players at one point. Maybe he should have spent more time trying to instil a winning mentality into the players he already had? You know the ones who had more trophies than he could shake a stick at.

Of course the squad did need some reinforcements but he appeared to sit on his hands during the summer. Did any United fans realistically think Fabregas was going to come to us?

That summer transfer shambles started his whole sorry time at United.

No. Moyes' focus was Fabregas.

You do not understand how it works at United. The manager picks the players, picks how much we are willing to bid etc. and the board follow his instructions (obviously within reason but as Pogba, Di Maria, Martial etc show that in reality, the board will pay whatever it takes).

Moyes pulled us out of the race for Thiago, underbid for Fabregas when a few million more would have got him, waited until after Di Rossi's deadline expired before bidding for him, left it too late to get round the loopholes in Herrera's clause, waited until Madrid couldn't find a replacement in time for Coentrao etc.

The board backed him, as they backed Fergie, Van Gaal and Mourinho. The difference is those managers knew what they wanted. Moyes was utterly inept and paid the price and it's idiotic that people are still trying to excuse his pathetic display as United manager.

So Ed Woodward was not to blame during that summer when they were desperate for a midfielder. If David Gill was still there then the club would have bought players that were needed. Moyes wanted Fabregas but he was after other players as well

Can you tell me why Van Gaal was more trusted to get the players he wanted more than Moyes. If the board never trusted him to buy the players then they should not have hired him in the first place

Because the money was there for him to spend. The manager tells the board who he wants, its not the boards job to buy player s without the managers input. That's kinda basic to be honest.

The club buying fellaini because moyes wanted him is backing the manager. The club paying over the odds for fellaini because the manager wanted him is very much backing the manager.

You're talking rubbish about a subject you clearly know nothing about with your whole Knowledge based on newspaper rumours. I'm expecting you to say the club aren't supporting mourinho next because they haven't bought him gaitan and sjneider considering we have been linked with them for years.

The board dropped a massive bollock that is true but maybe they and Fergie were sold a dummy?

I don't think they expected Moyes to clear out a successful backroom team and bring in a bunch of nobodies. Maybe the idea was that Moyes could build on the success from the previous season, add two or three decent players (Moyes had done a decent job at Everton recruiting players) and if he could get top 4 it would be regarded as a good season?

Fergie and Gill both leaving together didn't help but Moyes had to take responsibility for that summer shambles.

What did you think of Moyes when he bought Felliani when we all know that he was not his target. Because i dont think Moyes had that much free rein on transfers at the time. So i dont why he thought Felliani would improve the team

How on earth can you say the board never supported him and then say do you think the board should have said no when told he wanted to buy him?

That makes absolutely no sense. I suggest you just stop now and go back to your own clubs thread to be honest.

Why would we buy Fellani if he wasn't Moyes's choice? He wanted both Baines and Fellani but Everton didn't want to sell Baines to us. That's why the Everton fans gave him so much stick for coming back to poach two of his old players.

You seem to want to absolve Moyes of any responsibility for his own downfall.

Brilliant news, he really has gone in a time warp this season, and become his old self, which is great to watch, hopefully many more good performances still to come from him.

No. I just think it was not all his fault

I think Van Gaal was heavily backed finacially because they knew they could trust him to buy the right players. Moyes never had that trust

If they didn't trust him they wouldn't have hired him.

That is the point im making

Why did Man United hire a manager they never wanted in the first place. They only hired him because Sir Alex recommended him. Im sure their first target was Mourinho but he was at Chelsea at the time. But decided to hire Moyes on Sir Alex recommendation which at the time was very strange

On 9 May 2013, Manchester United announced that Moyes would take over the club following Alex Ferguson's retirement as manager.


On 3 June 2013, Chelsea appointed Mourinho as manager for the second time, on a four-year contract.

I am thinking two things, one Sir Alex put forward Moyes as his replacement (don't ask why), and secondly, even if we wanted to appoint José, I am thinking that he had already committed to going back to Chelsea, so appointing him then, was a non starter really.

Mourinho wanted the job.

Yes, but was he already committed to going back to Chelsea at the time?