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Old 06-04-2016, 23:12
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Richardson said we were definitely signing Bale last summer.
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Old 07-04-2016, 00:41
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I did see some quotes from Martial the other day, which indicated that Mourinho might be a possibility. He referenced him by name, and used the word 'if' a few times.

Gives me a glimmer of hope.

To be honest, I could just about tolerate another year of Van Gaal, if it didn't mean that the Giggs thing was almost certainly going to happen.
Players get asked all the time about potential managers coming in, if there is a lot of speculation around them, that is all that happened in that interview with Martial, so I wouldn't be getting to excited just because he answered the question, and mentioned José by name.

We are probably waiting to see if we finish in the Champions League places before making a final and firm decision over LvG's future, so it could be a while before we know for sure who are manager will be for next season.
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Old 07-04-2016, 08:41
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There is no way the board are waiting to see where they finish before making a decision. Not a chance.
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Old 07-04-2016, 09:04
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There is no way the board are waiting to see where they finish before making a decision. Not a chance.
Why would a manager like Mourino if he was a potential replacement for Van Gaal sit around on his hands to see where United finished? It'd be lunacy.

There's no benefit at this time to saying Van Gaal is going at the end of the season.

If the press get a hold of it, obviously it's a bit different but if you can keep it quiet, why not?
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Old 07-04-2016, 09:05
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Players get asked all the time about potential managers coming in, if there is a lot of speculation around them, that is all that happened in that interview with Martial, so I wouldn't be getting to excited just because he answered the question, and mentioned José by name.
Who's getting 'excited'?

I'm a functioning adult, I know how these things work.
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:59
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Who's getting 'excited'?

I'm a functioning adult, I know how these things work.
You said yourself "it gives me a glimmer of hope", when talking about that particular interview, that was what I was referring to.
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:02
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There is no way the board are waiting to see where they finish before making a decision. Not a chance.
Well no-one here knows for sure what the situation is at boardroom level, so it is hard to try and work out either way what their thoughts on the matter are, or what they have done or are waiting to do, so my guess is as good as yours or anyone else's without further information.

We will know hopefully one way or the other in a month or two just who our manager for next season (and perhaps beyond if LvG stays, then that probably means Giggs to take over after that) will be.
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:27
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Well no-one here knows for sure what the situation is at boardroom level, so it is hard to try and work out either way what their thoughts on the matter are, or what they have done or are waiting to do, so my guess is as good as yours or anyone else's without further information.
Its a shame you couldn't apply that same stunning logic to your Mourinho conversation when you were demanding people name the clubs he was off to and weren't taking "how she we know?" for an answer.

We will know hopefully one way or the other in a month or two just who our manager for next season (and perhaps beyond if LvG stays, then that probably means Giggs to take over after that) will be.[
Yes that is stating the obvious but the board will not have left this decision undiscussed until they see our league finish. They have seen the circumstances of our league "challenge" and performances this season. If they wanted Mourinho they will have already spoken to him, if they haven't spoken to him then they clearly don't want him. That much can be seen as quite an obvious comment.

If they leave Van Gaal in charge they know the consequences.
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:32
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We all know nothing, so let's just not discuss anything.
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:32
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dont mess with Eddie! (Said in a jokey manner, regarding the board knowing the consequences comment)!
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:38
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The public won't know what they've decided or anything, they won't make something like that public until the season is over, whatever decision they make.

I don't think they'd leave it until this late to decide LvG's fate. If they're waiting until he secures top four or fails then they're taking a risk in hoping Mourinho remains available after waiting all this time without getting spoken to by the club. A manager like Mourinho wouldn't normally be unemployed for this long, and if Man United haven't spoken to him, preferring to wait and see where they finish this season, they might miss out on him. Again.
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:43
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Its a shame you couldn't apply that same stunning logic to your Mourinho conversation when you were demanding people name the clubs he was off to and weren't taking "how she we know?" for an answer.



Yes that is stating the obvious but the board will not have left this decision undiscussed until they see our league finish. They have seen the circumstances of our league "challenge" and performances this season. If they wanted Mourinho they will have already spoken to him, if they haven't spoken to him then they clearly don't want him. That much can be seen as quite an obvious comment.

If they leave Van Gaal in charge they know the consequences.
The board could be wanting to see where we finish before making a firm concrete decision one way or the other, they might very well have spoken to José, and said him coming in depends on us finishing outside of the Champions League places for all we know.

No-one here (presumably, I could be wrong) has an insight into just what the board are thinking or have done so far, in terms of deciding which manager will be managing us next season, so all we have to go on is the speculation that has been going on, and trying to make up our own minds based on that.

From that the decision seems to be keep LvG on, and then pass the job to Giggs, or stop that, and give it to José this summer, nothing else seems like it is that likely to happen, so then it comes down to what would push the decision makers to make a firm decision either way, and just when do they (if they have not already) make that firm decision.

That is what we are talking about here, and trying to make our minds up over without the firm knowledge of what they are thinking, so then all we here can do is talk and put forth the views that we think would be best for the club going forward, and when it should be done.
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:49
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Can't wait to see the change of attitude when/if Jose is appointed.

'Hmmm, a sensible choice, I would say'
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Old 07-04-2016, 12:56
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Can't wait to see the change of attitude when/if Jose is appointed.

'Hmmm, a sensible choice, I would say'
Until he is appointed (if that does happen), then I will be against him coming here, but if he does join us, then I will support him until just as with any manager, he gives me a reason not to, as fans should support their manager unless he gives them a reason or reasons not to.

I did the same with Moyes, I was supportive towards him, until it became obvious that he was not cut out to be our manager, and is only the fair thing to do.

Seeing as it does seem that it has come down to a choice between keeping LvG on and then giving the job to Giggs, or stopping that process and giving it to José this summer, it is a hard choice, and one that I am glad that I am not having to make, as neither option seems like the best one going forward.

I would like a different option, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:02
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The public won't know what they've decided or anything, they won't make something like that public until the season is over, whatever decision they make.

I don't think they'd leave it until this late to decide LvG's fate. If they're waiting until he secures top four or fails then they're taking a risk in hoping Mourinho remains available after waiting all this time without getting spoken to by the club. A manager like Mourinho wouldn't normally be unemployed for this long, and if Man United haven't spoken to him, preferring to wait and see where they finish this season, they might miss out on him. Again.
Maybe they are intending to pull the trigger but for some reason we are still only a point away from fourth place so they think it's still possible we could get CL qualification and a trophy which would probably see him keep his job?

Should CIty and your lot win European trophies though then fourth won't matter. Highly unlikely but not impossible.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:05
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Can't wait to see the change of attitude when/if Jose is appointed.

'Hmmm, a sensible choice, I would say'
I think I'm going to have to get bladdered which ever way it turns out.

It's certainly not been a vintage year.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:08
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You said yourself "it gives me a glimmer of hope", when talking about that particular interview, that was what I was referring to.
Since when did seeing a 'glimmer of hope' equate to 'getting excited'?
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:10
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Since when did seeing a 'glimmer of hope' equate to 'getting excited'?
Fair enough if that is not what was meant, it did come across that way, sorry if I interpreted it incorrectly.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:13
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Until he is appointed (if that does happen), then I will be against him coming here, but if he does join us, then I will support him until just as with any manager, he gives me a reason not to, as fans should support their manager unless he gives them a reason or reasons not to.

I did the same with Moyes, I was supportive towards him, until it became obvious that he was not cut out to be our manager, and is only the fair thing to do.

Seeing as it does seem that it has come down to a choice between keeping LvG on and then giving the job to Giggs, or stopping that process and giving it to José this summer, it is a hard choice, and one that I am glad that I am not having to make, as neither option seems like the best one going forward.

I would like a different option, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
As long as you don't try to sweep under the carpet the fact you devoted endless hours to attempting to portray him as the devil incarnate, that's fine.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:13
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Maybe they are intending to pull the trigger but for some reason we are still only a point away from fourth place so they think it's still possible we could get CL qualification and a trophy which would probably see him keep his job?

Should CIty and your lot win European trophies though then fourth won't matter. Highly unlikely but not impossible.
It's possible that fourth and the FA Cup could save his job, and maybe they have had a word with Mourinho on the quiet about waiting to see what happens, but then if Mourinho agreed to such a thing then it'd suggest he's interested, which should mean LvG's job isn't say no matter what.

There's also that pre-contract thing from a few weeks ago, I don't know if there was any truth to that, though.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:14
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Fair enough if that is not what was meant, it did come across that way, sorry if I interpreted it incorrectly.
You should pay more attention.

If you did, you'd notice that I've been saying that I suspect that Van Gaal will be kept on, and that I'm not best pleased about it.

The polar opposite of what you 'interpreted'.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:26
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Looking forward to the game this weekend. Obviously I'd prefer if it was us going for the title, but it's nice to be able to play a part in where it goes all the same. Would be satisfying to inflict some pain on Spurs and their excellent wide-eyed young team
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:29
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Looking forward to the game this weekend. Obviously I'd prefer if it was us going for the title, but it's nice to be able to play a part in where it goes all the same. Would be satisfying to inflict some pain on Spurs and their excellent wide-eyed young team
If we do win, I think it all but gives Leicester the title, so the pressure is all on Spurs, so hopefully we can continue our good run in these "big" games this season.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:32
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If we do win, I think it all but gives Leicester the title, so the pressure is all on Spurs, so hopefully we can continue our good run in these "big" games this season.
Uhh, yeah, cheers for more or less summarising my point.
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Old 07-04-2016, 13:36
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Uhh, yeah, cheers for more or less summarising my point.
Well nice to see us on the same page then!
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