And if they are good enough, they'll get the chance, regardless of who the manager is. That's the whole point.

I've barely seen mention of it, since the game.

Ridiculous.

Hopefully we're smart enough not to let the Class of 92 or Fergie being at Utd for twenty six years hang around our neck like a millstone.

Time to move on, we need to make some more memories , not dwell on the past.

Ah, you have forgotten Raheem Sterling and the really good news about him is he was signed from QPR Academy when he was just 16 by Rafa Benitez and your luck is in as Rafa is likely to be available next season just as soon as Newcastle drop into the Championship. As he is someone who I think also likes to do a lot of writing during a match, the change from Van Gaal to Rafa will not seem so drastic and Rafa has, as far as I am aware, never poked anyone of note in the eye. Personally I'd rather have a poke in eye and get Mourinho.

Seriously, look to Southampton if you want players who have come through the Academy system. Gareth Bale, Adam Lallana, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Luke Shaw to name a few.

If we're getting hung up on youth we may as well just appoint Warren Joyce.

You are responding to my initial point that the concept of players going from youth team to superstar doesn't happen at the very top level team any more, or at least is very very rare.

You are going off topic by mentioning guys who play for Everton and players we sold.

A first team manager has a responsibility to win. If he doesn't he gets sacked. Gone are the days when his remit was anything but that at the top level. Van Gaal has "brought through" young players by your own definition. Does it keep him in the job in your eyes? No it doesn't because he isn't winning. If he didn't bring through any of those young players but we were 5 points clear at the top right now would his job be safe? Of course.

That's the long and the short of it no matter how much you spin it any other way.

Could you imagine Fergie's reaction had that happened when he was on the touchline?

Van Gaal sat and watched. To be fair none of the players reacted either. Keane would have throttled him before Fergie even got the chance.

Yeah, the only mentions I've seen are from people who found it funny.

Apparently the FA have let him off because it wasn't aggressive. I have no words.

As I said at the time, my main annoyance with that Noble incident was that our lot just stood there and let him do it. He'd never have tried that with some of our other sides, and even if he had, someone would have sorted the little shitbag out.

I mentioned it at the weekend but when it was kicking off at the Spurs game with Memphis near the end of the game I think it was only Lingard and Martial who joined in.

The youngsters. Same happened with Rashford at City away.

I was disappointed that Fellaini didn't get stuck in.

Do you know who else would have gone spare? Mourinho.

Im not one for playing the "passion" card but Ive watched a few of those 15 minute "classic" game highlights on Sky Sports that have featured the successful United teams of the past and its incredibly noticeable that the sheer will to win of those teams is light years away from the passive team we have to day. That is driven from the top down IMO.

Obviously the likes of Keane have it in built but the less aggressive players were demonstrating it in other ways too. We need to get that back.

I did put his name forward when there was a discussion a while back about potential caretakers if Giggs wouldn't do until the end of the season (might have been around the turn of the year, I forget the precise time).

Oi oi! Coming round to the need for animation on the bench!

He was no doctor, and was just frustrated I think, but there was no call whatsoever for lifting him up and dragging onto the side of the pitch.

It was disgraceful by him, what if he had a serious injury that he aggravated? (Which him being out now seems to be the case.)

The guys Im talking about didn't have time to look at the bench. Im talking about the message and tactics the manager delivers.

Van Gaal even attempting to spin our current position as anything other than crap illustrates my point. He should be ripping the team apart for such underachievement not trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes.

Yes, was tongue in cheek as I know it's irrelevant for you... Right, I'm off to meet Grim at the boozer to celebrate his four day weekend!

No wonder some people say that footballers and people that follow people are soft, if you think that was worth a red card. Unbelievable!

London is the capital city of the UK.
It has real history going back centuries (unlike Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool Newcastle, etc).
Only York and Norwich can rival London in this respect and no-one is saying they should host England matches.
London has a far bigger population than any other city in the UK.

It makes sense for England to play in London.
I wouldn't be averse to England playing some friendlies in other grounds (eg: Old Trafford, Anfield) but the biggest games should definitely be played at Wembley in the capital.

Spot on. Big games should always be at Wembley.

Old Trafford or anfield, villa park and St James Park should have a friendly each over the space of 2 years. It would allow alot of the country to have the chance to go watch the national team play

United should keep Lous Van Gaal, if the choice is between him and Mourinho.

Mourinho is the personification of short-termism. As well as being cynical and thoroughly unlikeable.

The football has not been great under Van Gaal. Neither would it be under Mourinho.

At least Louis Van Gaal is building for the future - just like Sir Alex Ferguson did in the late 80s when he became United manager. Built a dynasty and the Man Utd board at that time had the intelligence to see it - even though the media and others were campaigning for him to be sacked.

Absolute rubbish.

Not a single accurate word in that post. Brilliant.

I see Manchester United are offering free return coach travel for supporters for the FA Cup semi. Good on them

Tony Adams, John Terry, Sol Campbell, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, etc, etc.