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Old 19-04-2016, 15:10
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2014 all over again.

Ironically I think last season the hope was, as the season ended, that that was just a bad first one for LVG's first season, he'd managed to get us into 4th and next season it would be all guns blazing to challenge for everything.

Instead ... it's been a very bad 3 years. I'm sure most of us knew it might be a bit different - to say the least - after Fergie, just to get used to the whole new world of no Fergie after 25 years, but I doubt anyone thought things would be as bad as they've been.

And it was only when I saw on another board earlier that someone referred to giving away his ticket for tomorrow, that I realised we were playing tomorrow night! I actually had to look it up to see who it was we were playing!
That sums things up nicely, I just go by when there is radio commentary scheduled on MUTV, as my guide for when we have matches.

I have had far more enjoyment watching the Under 21's than the first team this season.
Even with the indifferent season that the academy has had, that performance that they put in by beating Newcastle, and scoring seven goals, was just out of this world when compared to the dross that has passed as "entertainment" at first team level.

Roll on this summer.
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Old 19-04-2016, 17:50
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I'm clinging onto the hope that City get distracted by their European adventure and take their eye off the ball in the league.
I am clinging to that hope too!
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Old 19-04-2016, 18:16
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Four points is perhaps considering our inconsistent form, just a bit too much I agree with you, that Spurs game really ended our hopes I think.

Europa League football it will be then, still it will kind of be good to play some different teams, as long as there is no long trips to the far side of Russia or beyond.
Yes Ruben Kazan. Or shakthar Donetsk are the furthest. . Not aware of teams further east like Ormsk, Tomsk, Madigan and Vladivostock.
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Old 19-04-2016, 18:47
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Yes Ruben Kazan. Or shakthar Donetsk are the furthest. . Not aware of teams further east like Ormsk, Tomsk, Madigan and Vladivostock.
Kazakhstan managed to get a team into both the Champions League and Europa League group stages this season. Coming from Almaty and Astana, both sides were from the east side of the country at that. That would be a trip and half if they repeated the feat!

Edit: I tell a lie. The team from Almaty (Kairat), got knocked out in the last round qualifying round before the group stages of the Europa League. Lost on away goals against Bordeaux.
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Old 19-04-2016, 19:46
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Yeah I wouldn't fancy any of those sort of trips, far too far away, and should really be in the Asian Champions League if anything.
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Old 19-04-2016, 19:52
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I was sorting through some old DVD's I'd done of odds and bobs before and I came across the news reports when Moyes was sacked in April 2014
Brilliant timing to find something like that, as a reminder of when it all started going wrong ... not!

Anyway, the news reader summed it up in a few words, "He took United from Champions to also-rans in 9 months, missing out on the Ch League for the first time in years ...'

You wonder how a news report would sum Van Gaal's reign up. Least he didn't have the Champions to relegate (so to speak) like Moyes did.
And that's probably the only positive!
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Old 19-04-2016, 20:02
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I am clinging to that hope too!
Well any distraction appears to have lasted precisely 15 minutes. Grrr.
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Old 19-04-2016, 20:29
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City are probably more likely to finish 3rd than battle to finish 4th. Like last season. Remember we beat them a year ago? (april 12) that put us 3rd and 4 poiints ahead City in 4th.

They ended up 9 points ahead of United, in 3rd place.

Arsenal are more likely to crumble than City.
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Old 19-04-2016, 20:55
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Wow!!!

What a way to win a league title!!

Last second goal to win the Under 21 league!!

Varela with a very good goal to secure the 3-2 win away at Spurs!

Something to enjoy in this season of utter woe and dross at first team level!

Fantastic!!
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Old 19-04-2016, 21:46
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Not a bad night either at first team level, as I see City have given us a bit of encouragement, by drawing at Newcastle, we will probably get beat by Palace now, to take away those dropped points.
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Old 19-04-2016, 22:13
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City are probably more likely to finish 3rd than battle to finish 4th. Like last season. Remember we beat them a year ago? (april 12) that put us 3rd and 4 poiints ahead City in 4th.

They ended up 9 points ahead of United, in 3rd place.

Arsenal are more likely to crumble than City.
Maybe... but it's better to have two teams that could drop points than one... City's two dropped tonight is a start, nice recovery by Newcastle. Assuming that we win our games of course and that's easy to say but a little bit harder to achieve!
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Old 19-04-2016, 22:52
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Maybe... but it's better to have two teams that could drop points than one... City's two dropped tonight is a start, nice recovery by Newcastle. Assuming that we win our games of course and that's easy to say but a little bit harder to achieve!
I think too many people speculate about this finishing 4th thing on the assumption of United winning all their remaining games. And to not rely on favours elsewhere, they have to.
And there's been no consistency this season. Not to mention that leicester is one of the teams United have to play. And didn't United lose to Norwich and Bournemouth earlier this season?

I've said it before, but those 13 points out of 15 dropped at the end of last year, did probably too much damage.
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Old 20-04-2016, 06:09
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City are probably more likely to finish 3rd than battle to finish 4th. Like last season. Remember we beat them a year ago? (april 12) that put us 3rd and 4 poiints ahead City in 4th.

They ended up 9 points ahead of United, in 3rd place.

Arsenal are more likely to crumble than City.
Yeah I remember that, we were actually well placed to finish runners up after that but we only won one more game, City won all theirs. That stat alone pretty much sums up United under LVG.
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Old 20-04-2016, 09:27
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The Sun are claiming that Memphis has held 'crunch talks' with United, over his standing at the club.

Whilst he's not exactly been great, I can't help but feel that he should have played more. Hard to find your feet in a new league, when you're generally on the bench.

Meanwhile, 'reports in Italy' claim that we're in a good position to sign Lucas Biglia, from Lazio. Can't say that I've seen him in action, but the link seems to stem from the assumption that Carrick needs replacing, which he does.
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Old 20-04-2016, 09:58
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I would like Memphis to stay, as we have not really seen him have a sustained run in the side, just bits and bobs here and there, and that is really hard to get any kind of consistency when you are played like that, especially when you are a new signing coming from a different country and league.
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Old 20-04-2016, 11:14
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Looks like Celtic could be in need of a new manager for next season, perhaps a good starting point for Giggs?
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Old 20-04-2016, 11:25
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Looks like Celtic could be in need of a new manager for next season, perhaps a good starting point for Giggs?
Moyes or Rogers for me.
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Old 20-04-2016, 11:29
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Moyes or Rogers for me.
Moyes did used to play for them, so he has that connection already there, so presumably that would help him if he wanted to manage them.
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Old 20-04-2016, 11:44
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Moyes did used to play for them, so he has that connection already there, so presumably that would help him if he wanted to manage them.
I can't imagine that'll have any bearing on it.

Would the fact that Steve Bruce used to play for us 'help him', if he wanted the United job?
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Old 20-04-2016, 11:58
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I can't imagine that'll have any bearing on it.

Would the fact that Steve Bruce used to play for us 'help him', if he wanted the United job?
If it were between Bruce and another candidate on a similar level, then I think it would.
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Old 20-04-2016, 12:02
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If it were between Bruce and another candidate on a similar level, then I think it would.
But it wouldn't ever be between him and a 'similar' candidate. That's the point.

If Celtic were to employ Moyes as their manager, it would be because they thought that he was the best available candidate.
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Old 20-04-2016, 12:16
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I can't imagine that'll have any bearing on it.

Would the fact that Steve Bruce used to play for us 'help him', if he wanted the United job?
The fact that GIggs is even being considered for the Utd job despite having had no managerial experience suggests that it isn't beyond the realms of impossibility.

Never underestimate, it's not what you know but who you know scenario.
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Old 20-04-2016, 12:22
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Looks like Celtic could be in need of a new manager for next season, perhaps a good starting point for Giggs?
No one would take him on, he's got no managerial experience.

I remember reading someone saying he was talking to mates of his who support Celtic and Aston Villa and he was asking them what they thought of Giggs taking over at those clubs and the unanimous verdict was no - cos he'd never been a manager before and had no experience.

Makes the thought of him taking over a huge club like United just on sentiment, even more mind boggling.
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Old 20-04-2016, 12:23
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The fact that GIggs is even being considered for the Utd job despite having had no managerial experience suggests that it isn't beyond the realms of impossibility.

Never underestimate, it's not what you know but who you know scenario.
I don't see the comparison.

Giggs wouldn't be an external appointment. Moyes/Bruce would.

Giggs is the assistant manager. It would be a promotion.
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Old 20-04-2016, 12:27
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I don't see the comparison.

Giggs wouldn't be an external appointment. Moyes/Bruce would.

Giggs is the assistant manager. It would be a promotion.
The assistant manager who apparently has no blame at all attached to him for the disaster his boss the manager Van Gaal has inflicted on United.
When you consider when a manager is sacked his coaching staff go with him .... it never fails to amaze me how Giggs is apparently completely distant from what the team does, even though he and Van Gaal are supposedly the managerial team.
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