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Old 06-03-2016, 23:02
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I have noticed that in so many outlets, you can only buy the Humax 1100S for recording from Freesat and Sagemcom for a more basic model.

Have Manhattan stopped manufacturing the recordable version of their basic box and the Bush version is also no longer available in Argos other than the basic version without the Freesat+ facility?
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Old 19-03-2016, 10:09
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Looks like that is the case, currently

http://www.freesat.co.uk/get-freesat/all-boxes

The buying market is fairly small for these PVRs cf Freeview. Many are happy to subscribe to $ky and others don't care / want the freesat epg so buy a free to air satellite recorder... (though that's a smaller still market in the UK).
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Old 21-03-2016, 17:25
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Have Manhattan withdrawn their commitment to produce Freetime boxes announced by Freesat 2 years ago, following their announcement to produce Freeview Play boxes?

Is this due to the low level of Freesat sales since the Freesat announcement?
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Old 21-03-2016, 18:46
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Have Manhattan withdrawn their commitment to produce Freetime boxes announced by Freesat 2 years ago, following their announcement to produce Freeview Play boxes?

Is this due to the low level of Freesat sales since the Freesat announcement?
Or is it down to their current box not being able to view iPlayer in the near future.
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Old 21-03-2016, 18:54
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Looks like that is the case, currently

http://www.freesat.co.uk/get-freesat/all-boxes

The buying market is fairly small for these PVRs cf Freeview. Many are happy to subscribe to $ky and others don't care / want the freesat epg so buy a free to air satellite recorder... (though that's a smaller still market in the UK).
What's even more irritating are the lack of Freesat TVs.

I wanted to buy one on behalf of a grandparent recently - for their bedroom, doesn't need to be anything flashy. It's hard to find a TV that is smaller than 40 inches with Freesat, and even then it seems to be reserved for the higher end models (even if the cheaper ones also have satellite tuners). It's no problem getting Freeview HD in a TV though.

Ended up buying some cheap LG thing that, while it had a satellite tuner, obviously did not have Freesat. Then I had to buy an actual Freesat box (not a PVR) for that.
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Old 21-03-2016, 21:52
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What's even more irritating are the lack of Freesat TVs.

I wanted to buy one on behalf of a grandparent recently - for their bedroom, doesn't need to be anything flashy. It's hard to find a TV that is smaller than 40 inches with Freesat, and even then it seems to be reserved for the higher end models (even if the cheaper ones also have satellite tuners). It's no problem getting Freeview HD in a TV though.

Ended up buying some cheap LG thing that, while it had a satellite tuner, obviously did not have Freesat. Then I had to buy an actual Freesat box (not a PVR) for that.
You could have tuned all the channels on the Freesat epg on the TV and more. You wouldn't get the epg of course, which is all Freesat is.
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Old 21-03-2016, 22:13
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You could have tuned all the channels on the Freesat epg on the TV and more. You wouldn't get the epg of course, which is all Freesat is.
I know that, but it's a PITA - you don't get a long EPG and you'd have to rescan and move all the channels around all the time, as channels are added, deleted and changed.

Said grandparent already has a proper Freesat box in the living room so anything to keep things as similar as possible would have been appreciated
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Old 22-03-2016, 08:01
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I know that, but it's a PITA - you don't get a long EPG and you'd have to rescan and move all the channels around all the time, as channels are added, deleted and changed.
I agree, and that's a major drawback to generic satellite tuners when compared to Freesat, which just does everything for the viewer seamlessly.
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Old 27-03-2016, 08:14
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Or is it down to their current box not being able to view iPlayer in the near future.
When will the Vestel boxes and TVs announced by Freesat 2 years ago get released!?!

Vestel usually release low cost products!
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Old 29-03-2016, 16:22
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Have Manhattan withdrawn their commitment to produce Freetime boxes announced by Freesat 2 years ago, following their announcement to produce Freeview Play boxes?

Is this due to the low level of Freesat sales since the Freesat announcement?
They have ceased production (too early in my view) of the HDR-S Freesat+ box, in preparation for the launch of their Freetime offerings, which are meant for middle of the year, but wouldn't be surprised if later than that.

I've seen what they look like recently, very nice, but no hands-on just yet.

The market for Freesat/Freetime is now very small, as consumers are not seeing a need to keep upgrading when the tech hasn't changed much.
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Old 02-04-2016, 11:07
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They have ceased production (too early in my view) of the HDR-S Freesat+ box, in preparation for the launch of their Freetime offerings, which are meant for middle of the year, but wouldn't be surprised if later than that.

I've seen what they look like recently, very nice, but no hands-on just yet.

The market for Freesat/Freetime is now very small, as consumers are not seeing a need to keep upgrading when the tech hasn't changed much.
Have you seen the Vestel TVs and boxes?
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Old 02-04-2016, 13:59
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They have ceased production (too early in my view) of the HDR-S Freesat+ box, in preparation for the launch of their Freetime offerings, which are meant for middle of the year, but wouldn't be surprised if later than that..
Hardly - when the box won't allow viewing of iPlayer from September. An outdated box.
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