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Old 07-03-2016, 09:08
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....is very good for still photos.
I also have a Canon IXUS 170 camera, 20 MP.
The iPhone camera is 12 MP
My question - which is the better camera, produces better photos?
I ask because I think the iPhone camera, although less MP has features not in the Canon.
Should I simply judge by the number of Pixels?
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Old 07-03-2016, 11:02
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Pixel count on its own has absolutely no bearing on image quality.

I would say that of those two, the Canon is likely the better for stills - possibly not so great for video.
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Old 07-03-2016, 11:23
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Pixel count on its own has absolutely no bearing on image quality.

I would say that of those two, the Canon is likely the better for stills - possibly not so great for video.
The iPhone camera is well known as being extremely good for a mobile phone - but must suffer (I suspect!!) from the laws of physics with having such a tiny lens!
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Old 07-03-2016, 13:13
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Better camera in technical terms is the IXUS - it has better optics and mechanical zoom. The iphone is an exceptionally good camera, but it has a lot less technical options than the IXUS - or my Nikon.

Outdoor sunlight photos are easy for all cameras, its indoors in low light where it gets harder, and when you want to zoom.

The iPhone compensates for small optics by using a lot of processing, and achieves some amazing pictures. For many many many people, the iPhone is all the camera they ever need.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:18
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Many thanks.
On close comparison, the iPhone stills are very marginally better.
Certainly an excellent camera on the iPhone.
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Old 08-03-2016, 11:57
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Many thanks.
On close comparison, the iPhone stills are very marginally better.
Certainly an excellent camera on the iPhone.
Yes, its a lot of software work in the CPU that is compensating for the small optics. Its very very impressive - which is why Apple are using the camera quality in the marketing - huge sign boards at London mainline stations showing pictures taken on the 6s and 6s+.
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Old 08-03-2016, 23:54
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Very impressive

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...n-mobiles.html
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Old 09-03-2016, 08:37
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And those have absolutely nothing to do with being taken on an iPhone, just a range of good/creative images that happen to have been taken on an iPhone. A couple of them are stunningly framed, but a few of them are pretty average. Most of them could have been taken on virtually any imaging device.
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:28
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Is it just me that is not blown away with these photos?

There are some photos I see on the Internet and think WOW.

Especially in the skies a lot of them look grainy.

Don't get me wrong - they are very good for a camera on a phone and prob very hard for other phones to beat, but nothing like a decent digital camera (my £150 Canon Ixus took better photos), let alone an SLR.

I still don't think you can beat a half decent lens.
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:36
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Is it just me that is not blown away with these photos?

There are some photos I see on the Internet and think WOW.

Don't get me wrong - they are very good for a camera on a phone and prob very hard for other phones to beat, but nothing like a decent digital camera (my £150 Canon Ixus took better photos), let alone an SLR.

I still don't think you can beat a half decent lens.
Cameras on phones have been "good enough" to take stunning pictures (in the right hands) since the SE K750.

Technically a canon ixus (or other cheap compact) won't have much advantage (if any) over a phone - for one, they both use tiny sensors (yes, compact cameras tend to use mobile phone sized image sensors), with the phone having the advantage of a prime lens. A small/cheap zoom lens on a compact tends to be pretty dire/

But those pictures weren't particularly wow.

I've got a canvas print up in the lounge that tends to wow people - it was from a 2mp shot taken on a Nokia 808 - and it really is rather stunning, but that is down to composition and use of the ND filter - something just not possible on any other phone on the market.
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:49
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Cameras on phones have been "good enough" to take stunning pictures (in the right hands) since the SE K750.

Technically a canon ixus (or other cheap compact) won't have much advantage (if any) over a phone - for one, they both use tiny sensors (yes, compact cameras tend to use mobile phone sized image sensors), with the phone having the advantage of a prime lens. A small/cheap zoom lens on a compact tends to be pretty dire/

But those pictures weren't particularly wow.

I've got a canvas print up in the lounge that tends to wow people - it was from a 2mp shot taken on a Nokia 808 - and it really is rather stunning, but that is down to composition and use of the ND filter - something just not possible on any other phone on the market.
I beg to differ on the photos taken on my old Ixus camera as I read a lot of reviews on it before buying so it was a decent camera and for the price the results are very, very good. In fact when I upgrades to a Panasonic Powershot a few years ago there was no difference in the quality of the stills (mainly upgraded because of the HD video recording and GPS.

I've just had a look at some old photos that I took with it years ago and the photos are very slightly less grainy (even though it's a 6mp camera) and have better colours than the ones on the link (admit maybe not such exotic locations though).

I agree that it's not all about the MP of the camera, but the quality of the optics and CCD.

Must admit I should use my digital camera more though as I do prefer the quality compared to my phone, but just lazy as more to carry around and look after.

Perhaps it might gee me up to get it out on my next couple of holidays.
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Old 09-03-2016, 18:55
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So, to summarise, my iPhone 6s Plus camera is not much better, if at all, than 'any other cheap old compact camera'?
Perhaps I should invest in a dearer, not a cheap one, camera.
I do a lot of travelling and want pleasant, quality memories.
And would feel cheated if my iPhone camera or IXUS 170 camera didn't provide them.
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Old 09-03-2016, 19:20
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So, to summarise, my iPhone 6s Plus camera is not much better, if at all, than 'any other cheap old compact camera'?
Perhaps I should invest in a dearer, not a cheap one, camera.
I do a lot of travelling and want pleasant, quality memories.
And would feel cheated if my iPhone camera or IXUS 170 camera didn't provide them.
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Old 09-03-2016, 19:34
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So, to summarise, my iPhone 6s Plus camera is not much better, if at all, than 'any other cheap old compact camera'?
Perhaps I should invest in a dearer, not a cheap one, camera.
I do a lot of travelling and want pleasant, quality memories.
And would feel cheated if my iPhone camera or IXUS 170 camera didn't provide them.
Instead of worry about which camera to use learn how to use what you have better. A good photographer can take a good photo with any camera. A bad photographer can take a bad picture with the most expensive of cameras.
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Old 10-03-2016, 13:20
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Instead of worry about which camera to use learn how to use what you have better. A good photographer can take a good photo with any camera. A bad photographer can take a bad picture with the most expensive of cameras.
Well said; an iPhone 6, Z5, 950, S7, etc. are all capable of taking reasonable shots in order to capture memories. Learning how to make better use of the camera that you have is more useful than buying a "better" camera.
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Old 10-03-2016, 13:27
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iphone, but if you step up to an entry level DSLR or a midrange compact (RX100 range). Then the iPhone is destroyed.
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:48
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Oh dear.
Instead of just pointing and snapping, I'll have to get to grips with trying to became a rather more skilled photographer.
There I was, thinking the camera would do it all for me.
Silly me.
I shall heed this advice.
Thanks.
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Old 11-03-2016, 20:57
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iphone, but if you step up to an entry level DSLR or a midrange compact (RX100 range). Then the iPhone is destroyed.
Only if you know how to use it...and even then it won't be 'destroyed'.
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Old 11-03-2016, 21:45
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iphone, but if you step up to an entry level DSLR or a midrange compact (RX100 range). Then the iPhone is destroyed.
You might have a point in very low light, but the iPhone camera while inferior, is certainly not "destroyed" by something like an RX100, not even by a DSLR with good light (ie. during the day). They might offer superior IQ, but not by the distance you allude to.
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