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Goddamn BBC and their corporate lies. They told me Doctor Who would start at 7:00pm.
How, in your evident wisdom, did you interpret Mark Gatiss's recent remark about the slave being free, by the way? |
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The exact reason as to why Martha wasn't around for more than one series remains a mystery. Judging by how she came back in Series 4, appeared in Torchwood and was originally going to be in the line-up for Children of Earth it certainly wasn't due to any poor relationships behind the scenes. And given that the third series wrapped more or less before broadcast, it wasn't a decision made on the basis of any kind of fan reception either. It literally seems like they just made an active decision to do a one-series companion with a well-rounded story.
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Goddamn BBC and their corporate lies. They told me Doctor Who would start at 7:00pm.
But it started at 6:59. ![]()
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IIRC it was mentioned in the Writers Tale that they wanted the character of Martha to have a platonic companion relationship with the Doctor to act as a buffer between the romantic companions as RTD didn't feel it was right that the Doctor would immediately fall in love with the next companion after loosing Rose, but Doctor would probably have fallen in love with Penny had she come to be. So we have much to be grateful for Catherine for
![]() ![]() Do I also recall correctly that they had some high profile name attached to the Series 4 lead cast as well at one point? Like, really high profile? I stupidly left my copy of the book on a train a long time ago and can't quite recall. |
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Of the nine actors who have left while Doctor Who was/is a going concern, we know for a fact there was stage management for Hartnell and Eccleston and attempted stage management for Colin Baker.
One-third of the nine announced departures definitely involved BBC manipulation. And people wonder why this latest story isn't being taken at face value. |
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They told me there would be more Who than ever before...
How, in your evident wisdom, did you interpret Mark Gatiss's recent remark about the slave being free, by the way? Mark Gatiss' comment is quite obvious really, we all know Moffat has been overworked with Doctor Who and that he's had no choice but to continue working on the show (or let it be cancelled, more than likely). My evident wisdom is so fab rn.
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liars!!! its all a conspiracy!!!
![]() Lie(z)! = 3 letters Coincidence? Not a chance. BBC more like Big Bleedin' Calumniations ![]() Still won't even tell us the Doctor's name |
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Of the nine actors who have left while Doctor Who was/is a going concern, we know for a fact there was stage management for Hartnell and Eccleston and attempted stage management for Colin Baker.
One-third of the nine announced departures definitely involved BBC manipulation. And people wonder why this latest story isn't being taken at face value. I work on the rather nieve assumption that everyone tells the truth until they give me reason to think otherwise. At the moment I can't think of a single time that Capaldi has lied and I see no reason for him to start now. |
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Series 4 was originally going to have a northern companion called Penny and the Doctor was going to be romantically attracted to her.
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Yeah, I heard about this before. Good grief, that would have given me a lot to moan about.
![]() Knowing that we got 'just mates' for Series 4 instead was such a better direction I think. And one that was then sorely missing from the Specials.
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We do!
![]() Do I also recall correctly that they had some high profile name attached to the Series 4 lead cast as well at one point? Like, really high profile? I stupidly left my copy of the book on a train a long time ago and can't quite recall.
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But. you have the other side of the coin of people beleiving things are conspiracy or not "whatt they seem".... Heck maybe..CC actually wants PC to stay on with him
If this was DT or Smith saying this. woud it be questioned? Remember, Moffar didnt want a new doc when he started, but he had no choice. DT quit.. So, no idea why people are assuming CC wants one. They never ever usually announce anything about the details of the show until things are locked down and confirmed and neither do the cast, which is why Capaldi coming out and saying he is deciding whether to stay or go, and being allowed to say such a thing, seems very suspsciously like a face saving exercise to allow him to leave with his head publicly held high. Im not ruling out the statement being true, I just doubt it at this time based on what we know. Can you really believe with the amount he seems to be absolutely loving it, he would even have to think about whether to stay if it were truly his decision? |
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Romantic Rose in Series 2 was just about enough for me.
Knowing that we got 'just mates' for Series 4 instead was such a better direction I think. And one that was then sorely missing from the Specials.I think the show skipped a bullet with that one though, as Donna was quite a popular companion and her bond with the Doctor did work, something people still remember today, but I'm not sure what people would have thought about another romantic companion. I think all my family exhausted themselves complaining about Rose as it was. :P |
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I don't really know the full situation with Hartnell, but I guess he went along with the lies? But in the case of Eccleston and Baker they were the ones to blow the roof off the corporate spin. This latest quote comes directly from Capaldi himself so I am more inclined to believe it than if it were a line being fed from the PR department.
I work on the rather nieve assumption that everyone tells the truth until they give me reason to think otherwise. At the moment I can't think of a single time that Capaldi has lied and I see no reason for him to start now. As for Capaldi, he is still under contract for at least another year. So he may well have been instructed to play the PR game. Announcing a definite departure now would have us speculating about a new Doctor too far ahead of his debut. |
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Oh I don't remember that but I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't read the book the whole way through so maybe this is mentioned later on. My interest wained a little when they started re-printing pages and pages of scripts, but I definitely need to pick it up again, something else for me to do during the gap year
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Does The Writer's Tale happen to mention why he decided to drop the romantic element and go for a platonic relationship with Donna? I've heard quite a handful of information about the book but I've never read it myself.
I think the show skipped a bullet with that one though, as Donna was quite a popular companion and her bond with the Doctor did work, something people still remember today, but I'm not sure what people would have thought about another romantic companion. I think all my family exhausted themselves complaining about Rose as it was. :P I do agree though. Series 1 did platonic, Series 2 did romantic, Series 3 did unrequited, Series 4 did friends...it was the nicest change of pace in dynamic that felt much more like the first series to me - now just more confident in its ability to deliver. A nice balance of RTD's terrific character writing, but freed of some of the more soapy elements as well.
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I don't know whether Hartnell did any interviews at the time, but the BBC's press release contained a direct quote attributed to him.
As for Capaldi, he is still under contract for at least another year. So he may well have been instructed to play the PR game. Announcing a definite departure now would have us speculating about a new Doctor too far ahead of his debut. |
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The press has already been heavily doing that for months since it was annouced Moffat was leaving, so dosen't matter
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My sentiments exactly
@GirlyLetters Can you imagine someone from the BBC saying to Capaldi, "We're kicking you out but tell everyone you've been asked to stay."? Ridiculous!" @GirlyLetters Peter Capaldi wouldn't lie about something like that and no-one would ask him to lie either. He has the option of being in Series 11. |
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We do!
![]() Do I also recall correctly that they had some high profile name attached to the Series 4 lead cast as well at one point? Like, really high profile? I stupidly left my copy of the book on a train a long time ago and can't quite recall. I guess that would have killed the possibility of any future appearances for that character as I doubt Winslet would have been willing or able to take on a recurring role. |
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I recall it being mentioned but it's been so many years since I've read what I did that I can't recall the details. It seems we're all in definite need of a read of this thing
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I do agree though. Series 1 did platonic, Series 2 did romantic, Series 3 did unrequited, Series 4 did friends...it was the nicest change of pace in dynamic that felt much more like the first series to me - now just more confident in its ability to deliver. A nice balance of RTD's terrific character writing, but freed of some of the more soapy elements as well. I think it's a shame we didn't see a more platonic type of bond when Freema was on board. It would have worked so much better for her character rather than having her bogged down by the shadow of Rose. I kind of view Martha as the "companion who never was" because I think what we saw was far beneath Freema's potential as a companion.
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I think it's a shame we didn't see a more platonic type of bond when Freema was on board. It would have worked so much better for her character rather than having her bogged down by the shadow of Rose. I kind of view Martha as the "companion who never was" because I think what we saw was far beneath Freema's potential as a companion.
On another note i really want a companion who lets say isn't always morally correct, and then we see them grow as a person. I think that would be interesting to do. |
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My sentiments exactly
@GirlyLetters Can you imagine someone from the BBC saying to Capaldi, "We're kicking you out but tell everyone you've been asked to stay."? Ridiculous!" @GirlyLetters Peter Capaldi wouldn't lie about something like that and no-one would ask him to lie either. He has the option of being in Series 11. |
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I wonder if "@GirlyLetters" is aware of the lie in William Hartnell's announced departure? Or the lie Colin Baker refused to go along with? Or the lie about Christopher Eccleston leaving the "happy ship" because he feared typecasting?
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Im not ruling out the statement being true, I just doubt it at this time based on what we know. Can you really believe with the amount he seems to be absolutely loving it, he would even have to think about whether to stay if it were truly his decision?
Plus don't forget he might be getting offers to do something else he's always wanted to do, and at his age (I'm speaking from experience here) you do become conscious there's only so much time to get all your ambitions ticked off before it's too late! I hope he stays, but I don't think there's anything fishy about his not being firmly committed. |
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Yes but part of the point is that both Colin and Chris refused to go along with those and Girly Letters is saying so would Capaldi. He's as honest and straight up as they come, Why would he roll over and spread the lie? He once said when being interviewed about Malcolm Tucker that he very seldom loses his temper, but one thing that made him do so was being jerked around professionally by people who took him for granted and made him do stuff he didn't want to do. I highly doubt that, actor or no, he'd be doing this round of promotion so obviously happily and cheerfully and being so enthusiastic about the future etc if the BBC had said to him "go out there and tell barefaced lies to save our face".
Peter, on the other hand, is still contracted for an entire series and special(s). He can't just go "off message" unless he wants his contract terminated sooner. |
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Knowing that we got 'just mates' for Series 4 instead was such a better direction I think. And one that was then sorely missing from the Specials.