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The return of Vinyl
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Doghouse Riley
14-06-2016
Originally Posted by unique:
“i have the majority of my music on HDD's (and backed up fully) so i cn just think of a track or artist and play it from my computers to my hifi systems

i also dj from laptop, and having been a dj for many years, i can tell you that carrying a single 12x12 case of records was backbreaking even when younger and fitter, and trying to do that with 2 cases was impossible unless you were made of muscles. of course as time went on trolley cases came into being, but i think i left vinly for cd back then, and that was a boon as 200 cds in a case was much lighter and let me have much more music, and with cd burners i could take a copy of my music and not worry about losing or scratching discs. now it's a laptop and controller, far more music available to me and easy to carry. if something pops into my mind whilst playing i can just search and play

the tactileness of vinly when djing with records was nice, and there was more skill involved in beatmatching manually, but with dj decks having auto bmp it meant instead of spending time matching the beats you could use the time to find other things to play or make a more interesting mix, and that's even moreso on the laptop. of course you can use serato and time coded vinly but unless you are a scratch dj or want to make it look like you are doing more than playing on a laptop, it's not necessary. the laptop may make things look simple, but it's the choice of tracks that work well by following the current track that is the skill. anyone can play hit track after hit and get people dancing, but when it's done well it's like the difference between a greggs pastie and a first rate meal”

I'm digressing here, I admire your interest and devotion to the job of DJing, but at my age, my experience of DJs is not particularly enjoyable.

I only experience them at family weddings. These days its usually the kids of friends and relatives. There's usually after the wedding, a DJ at the afternoon reception.

These occasions are great to catch up with people you've not seen in years and all you want to do is have a chat. The only ones interested in dancing are the young kids, of ten or whatever. there's usually only a few of them. Oh yes! plus a couple of unattached women "of a certain age"dancing. The DJ wants people up on the floor, that's what he thinks is his job. So he turns the music up so loud that people find conversations around a table difficult. Not a situation many people of my age enjoy.

I'm sure you're not like that.
unique
14-06-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“I'm digressing here, I admire your interest and devotion to the job of DJing, but at my age, my experience of DJs is not particularly enjoyable.

I only experience them at family weddings. These days its usually the kids of friends and relatives. There's usually after the wedding, a DJ at the afternoon reception.

These occasions are great to catch up with people you've not seen in years and all you want to do is have a chat. The only ones interested in dancing are the young kids, of ten or whatever. there's usually only a few of them. Oh yes! plus a couple of unattached women "of a certain age"dancing. The DJ wants people up on the floor, that's what he thinks is his job. So he turns the music up so loud that people find conversations around a table difficult. Not a situation many people of my age enjoy.

I'm sure you're not like that.”

there's a few types of dj's. you have your old fashioned radio dj's who's most important job was to promote themself by talking over the top of the best bits of the records and telling you the time and weather every 5 minutes

you have your functions dj's which are like you describe, bloke turns up with all the kit, shit lights, shit PA, and does a similar thing to the radio dj's by self promoting themself and talking between all the records, to which few people actually understand what is being said, and they just play any old crap the punters want to hear

i just don't do talking between/during the music, and just tell people there is no mic if they ask for something to be said. if it's important i'll offer to drop the volume and they can shout, which sends them away just like the old trick of avoiding anyone who dares ask for a request who isn't smoking hot on the babe o meter, by telling them you don't have that track with you - harder to do these days, and of course if you didn't have it and wanted to play it you can usually download it via the venue wifi (first thing i connect to when laptop is on!)

then you have the club dj, and they generally play tracks and don't talk, each track blends into the next without missing a beat. of course various genres can differ such as hip hop of reggae having MC's or scratching, and you get the meat market type bar/club/disco places where the dj plays chart shit and talks shit between the records and few people approach the fat slobs dribbling lager down their front whilst sweating profusely

you also have the bedroom dj's who basically cover all sorts of stuff including the above, a bit like the new pirate radio but they can stream online to about 4 people who clicked the wrong link by mistake, out of about 17 million online stations

i get offers from time to time to do birthdays and weddings from people who've never heard me play before but i just fob them off as it would be excruciatingly horrible to do, unless it was a crowd of people i knew that may appreciate what i was playing, and no grannies and kids and tea drinkers. much of the music i play has lyrical content or themese that may not go down so well with those type of punters
hazydayz
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by Heavenly:
“Bought my other half a retro record player for his birthday.

Got all his Beatles' original vinyls out, handed down to him from his dad.

Such an enjoyable weekend listening to all of them.

Each to their own, it's all about the 'experience' for us.”

That's the important thing. That you enjoy the experience and enjoy the music.
Glawster2002
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“True.
But for decades there's always been new turntables being produced,
despite the low quantities of new vinyl being issued.
Most of these turntables like the rest of the kit, being at the "high end," out of reach of the average new enthusiast. There's also a demand for vintage turntables and cartridges, but only amongst the relatively small number of long-term vinyl enthusiasts.
They even have vintage cartridges rebuilt.

I subscribe to an audio board and people are always posting about their newest vinyl related bit of kit they've bought.”

Until recently, and by recently I mean in the last 10 years or so, Rega only produced turntables.

Whilst I don't buy that much new vinyl I do buy some from bands I really like, limited editions, etc, but I think a lot of people these days buy vinyl to collect rather than to actually play.
Inkblot
15-06-2016
Respected turntable maker Pro-Ject has just released a vertical turntable that you can mount on the wall and connect to your speakers via bluetooth. It's a brilliant idea for the people who want a designer solution to playing vinyl and it's a proper audiophile component not a suitcase job.
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