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EE 2G/3G/4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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jonmorris
22-09-2016
Huawei has just rolled out a beta ROM for the Honor 5X which adds VoLTE. India only right now, but fingers crossed it will be rolled out globally and then other Honor and Huawei phones.
CheshireBumpkin
22-09-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Huawei has just rolled out a beta ROM for the Honor 5X which adds VoLTE. India only right now, but fingers crossed it will be rolled out globally and then other Honor and Huawei phones.”

This would obviously be good, but surely only as good as the networks that support it. I guess that's only 3, and even that would be less than certain wouldn't it?

Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see EE sending settings to Honor phones - they struggle enough with their own devices...

I genuinely don't understand it well enough to know whether it's a good thing, or an inconsequential thing!
georgi_prodanov
23-09-2016
I dont understand why EE would switch VoLTE but their phones are not ready for it as need settings update. What is the point of having VoLTE live but no many phones been updated
packages
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“I dont understand why EE would switch VoLTE but their phones are not ready for it as need settings update. What is the point of having VoLTE live but no many phones been updated”

Because some phones have been updated or can use it straight away (ie iPhone).

Even though 4G Calling has gone "live", I still believe they are just public testing it currently.
jonmorris
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“This would obviously be good, but surely only as good as the networks that support it. I guess that's only 3, and even that would be less than certain wouldn't it?

Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see EE sending settings to Honor phones - they struggle enough with their own devices...

I genuinely don't understand it well enough to know whether it's a good thing, or an inconsequential thing! ”

I would hope that manufactures will allow OTA settings updates, but also come with the settings for major networks as standard - as we're seeing with some phones already.

Plus EE sells the Huawei P9, so at the very least it should update that - but it wants VoLTE to be used by all, to eventually switch off 3G one day, so it would make sense to send settings to all.

Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“I dont understand why EE would switch VoLTE but their phones are not ready for it as need settings update. What is the point of having VoLTE live but no many phones been updated”

I too don't understand what the hold up is in updating other phones. But, for now the fact that the iPhone has support still means a not insignificant number of users are able to use it already.
de525ma
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by sills:
“Had a firmware update on my EE S7 Edge today which has enabled VoLTE.”

Ooh you beat me to it Confirmed. VoLTE finally. Really like the way it can jump from WiFi calling to 4G and back again without dropping the call.
superleeds27
23-09-2016
So, is it the CSC file on the EE Firmware that allows VOLTE?
Synthetic42
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by superleeds27:
“So, is it the CSC file on the EE Firmware that allows VOLTE?”

IMS settings now has "mmtel" enabled, which my previous BTU firmware didn't and wouldn't let me enable.

Maybe if you were rooted and could force that option on you could get it working through those settings
superleeds27
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Synthetic42:
“IMS settings now has "mmtel" enabled, which my previous BTU firmware didn't and wouldn't let me enable.

Maybe if you were rooted and could force that option on you could get it working through those settings”

How do i access these settings?
Synthetic42
23-09-2016
You'll need to install nova launcher, then create a new activity, scroll down the list to "IMS settings" which will put an IMS settings icon on the home screen
superleeds27
23-09-2016
Managed to do that.

I can tick the boxes in the profile, but whenever i save them they untick themselves again.
Synthetic42
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by superleeds27:
“Managed to do that.

I can tick the boxes in the profile, but whenever i save them they untick themselves again.”

Yep that's the problem I had on BTU, however on the newest EVR firmware, mmtel is already ticked
Varys
23-09-2016
Hi all,

A few of us are having problems even with the EVR firmware - I can't access VoLTE at all.
superleeds27
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Synthetic42:
“Yep that's the problem I had on BTU, however on the newest EVR firmware, mmtel is already ticked”

I decided to flash the EVR firmware with Odin and debit it myself. VOLTE is active now
Denco1
24-09-2016
From using network signal guru, it appears the aggregate maximum aggregate bitrate (AMBR) for EE is 450Mbps downlink and 150Mbps uplink. So I presume the cap has been raised to this, theoretically unreachable with the current cat9 set up.
sills
24-09-2016
Originally Posted by de525ma:
“Really like the way it can jump from WiFi calling to 4G and back again without dropping the call.”

Yes, I noticed that too. My work iPhone doesn't seem to do that, it will hand off to 4G but not back to WiFi was far as I can tell.
Gigabit
24-09-2016
3G to 4G switch during data flow working on Moto G4 Plus. Works beautifully.

Unlike Vodafone which has got stuck on 3G. Coverage map says full 4G is available...
japaul
24-09-2016
Originally Posted by Denco1:
“From using network signal guru, it appears the aggregate maximum aggregate bitrate (AMBR) for EE is 450Mbps downlink and 150Mbps uplink. So I presume the cap has been raised to this, theoretically unreachable with the current cat9 set up.”

I think it's the AMBR EE use to set caps as when I've looked before, those with the 30Mbps standard speed cap have an AMBR of 31 down / 15 up. Since my 150 cap was recently raised I'm also on 450/150 and I've managed an actual 270Mbps speedtest since.

When I've looked the others have been
Vodafone 256/100
Three 120/60
O2 100/100
ozz
24-09-2016
Bourne mast before and after.

4G live for EE, Voda & O2.

New panels appeared mid mast, which ones belong to which operator? The old orange ones at the top seem undisturbed, the old Voda ones still remain at the bottom. Seems like the 3/EE and new O2/Voda are all together?

Before

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.76...2!8i6656?hl=en

After

https://drive.google.com/file/d/102A...ew?usp=sharing
beans0ntoast
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by ozz:
“Bourne mast before and after.

4G live for EE, Voda & O2.

New panels appeared mid mast, which ones belong to which operator? The old orange ones at the top seem undisturbed, the old Voda ones still remain at the bottom. Seems like the 3/EE and new O2/Voda are all together?

Before

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.76...2!8i6656?hl=en

After

https://drive.google.com/file/d/102A...ew?usp=sharing”

From what I can tell, based on setups I've seen, the chunky panels on the right (on the middle tier), with all the cables going to them, are Vodafone/O2. Might be quad band.
EE/3 will be using the other ones, which look to be standard dual bands or tri bands.
Pedro will likely confirm this.
Pedro_C
25-09-2016
Top of mast is fairly recent EE/3. Two single band Kathreins. capable of 4G for both operators.
Middle: That'll be just O2/VF: UG09, U21, L08, L18 O2 most likely. Looks like quad and triple band Commscope Argus antennas (not all ports will be wired)
Everything Goes
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“I dont understand why EE would switch VoLTE but their phones are not ready for it as need settings update. What is the point of having VoLTE live but no many phones been updated”

The elephant in the room for widespread 4G VOLTE roll out is Android. We could have high power 4G coverage if Android manufacturers, Google and the networks got their act together. Sadly they seem unable to organise a piss up in a brewery. This will hold back proper high power 4G VOLTE for 5 to 10 years.
jonmorris
26-09-2016
But Android is ready. I don't get why the tools aren't used by EE, Three etc to get more handsets ready. Ditto for Wi-Fi calling.

Imagine if phones didn't have mobile data settings in them. Still a problem for some obscure MVNOs, but extremely rare.
rasseru16
26-09-2016
I do hope that the Samsung Galaxy S7 BTU firmware will get EE VoLTE enabled, we already have the Wi-Fi Calling option...
georgi_prodanov
26-09-2016
how do i know when coverage map has been updated. On VO2 it shows but not on EE
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