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EE 2G/3G/4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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mrgs12
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“The application explains why the mast isn't being changed:

"The site is located within the Cotswold AONB .... this Article 2 (3) land designation is sensitive and for this reason the upgrade is extremely minor and the mast not being altered. The present 8m replica telegraph pole will not be swapped out or changed in any aspect as part of this application and the proposed minor cabinet is located within the existing stock proof fencing"k

If the antenna isn't being changed, then depending on the antenna currently being used (probably 1800Mhz single band) then this site may become 2G/4G only (1800MHz). The application seems to suggest the work is only to add 4G.

There are quite a few 2G/4G-only masts appearing on EE.”

Pretty much a waste of time then since the signal is so weak and lost in the streets and thick Cotswold stone walled buildings of the town, I thought we were moving into the 21st century like the rest, oh well the price we pay for living in Conservation area.
superleeds27
01-10-2016
Does the latest EVR Firmware for the Note 7 have VOLTE?

PDA N930FXXU2BPI7
CSC N930FEVR2BPI5
superleeds27
01-10-2016
Anyone else having massive battery drain - Cell Standby, since the VOLTE update on the S7?
Cloudane
01-10-2016
Comparing networks again out of interest, as I do about once a year. No contest at all if you want any sort of internet! Sat on about a 40 minute train journey here in south Cumbria with a phone in each hand. - o2: GPRS almost all the way, EE 4G almost all the way (H when it's not. Saw EDGE for about 30 seconds)
beans0ntoast
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by mrgs12:
“Can a telegraph pole style 2G mast be upgraded to 2/3/4G ? This is the planning application for my small town it mentions MBNL but no upgrade to the telegraph pole, the coverage is quite poor from it anyway so upgrade is hardly the the best description.https://www.stroud.gov.uk/apps/plann...#searchResults”

Telegraph style poles can be upgraded - certainly to 2G/4G, possibly to 2G/3G/4G on EE.

It depends on what panels are used inside the mast.

If they stick with the original single input panels, then GL18, U21 on EE and U21 on 3 is possible. However, it may be more likely for EE GL18, U21; or even EE GL18.

For anything more (i.e. L08, 3 L18 etc), dual band or tri band panels would be required, which would make the top of the telegraph pole a lot wider in diameter.

Seeing the application, that the panels will not be changed, it suggests EE GL18/U21 or EE GL18.
mrgs12
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“Telegraph style poles can be upgraded - certainly to 2G/4G, possibly to 2G/3G/4G on EE.

It depends on what panels are used inside the mast.

If they stick with the original single input panels, then GL18, U21 on EE and U21 on 3 is possible. However, it may be more likely for EE GL18, U21; or even EE GL18.

For anything more (i.e. L08, 3 L18 etc), dual band or tri band panels would be required, which would make the top of the telegraph pole a lot wider in diameter.

Seeing the application, that the panels will not be changed, it suggests EE GL18/U21 or EE GL18.”

On top of the telegraph pole a small rod about 1" diameter roughly 6" high, is that the transmitter part and receivers/panels are hidden in the fake timber of the pole?
Minardi
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by superleeds27:
“Anyone else having massive battery drain - Cell Standby, since the VOLTE update on the S7?”

I'm seeing it on the LG G5. Taken off charge at 545, dead by 2pm. 14% to cell standby.
Ed3925
01-10-2016
I've noticed battery drain on the VoLTE S7 Edge today....

.....but I spent five hours in a building with almost no signal, which probably explains it. Will have to monitor during the week because it might be fine.
beans0ntoast
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by mrgs12:
“On top of the telegraph pole a small rod about 1" diameter roughly 6" high, is that the transmitter part and receivers/panels are hidden in the fake timber of the pole?”

Hmmm... I've noticed those small rods (though slightly longer) on other masts as well... Really don't know why though!

I'd have thought that transmit and receive were both done in the panels.... would need clarification on this by someone who knows more about this!

The panels are definitely hidden in the top section of the fake telegraph pole.
d123
01-10-2016
At a guess, a lightning rod?
DevonBloke
01-10-2016
Lightening Rod? Anyone I know? Other than Rod Hull and Emu?
_m
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“Hmmm... I've noticed those small rods (though slightly longer) on other masts as well... Really don't know why though!

I'd have thought that transmit and receive were both done in the panels.... would need clarification on this by someone who knows more about this!

The panels are definitely hidden in the top section of the fake telegraph pole.”

I believe that it's the mast's pointy bit for disposing of any discharge. Although I think that some erections have a direct connection to ground so no pointy bit is required.
_m
01-10-2016
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“Hmmm... I've noticed those small rods (though slightly longer) on other masts as well... Really don't know why though!

I'd have thought that transmit and receive were both done in the panels.... would need clarification on this by someone who knows more about this!

The panels are definitely hidden in the top section of the fake telegraph pole.”

Receive and transmit is done through the same part of the panels with the two ports per band being used for diversity and 2x2 MIMO.
matty1000kk
02-10-2016
Had a go at streaming the F1 today on the Sky Go app while travelling in the back of taxi to Gatwick airport. Pretty much flawless!

70 odd miles from Colchester down the A12, M25 & M23. I forced my Alcatel Y800 mifi to 4G only to avoid it dropping to 3G. Only twice briefly did the connection drop for 5 seconds or so. Quality was exceptional as well 98% of the time.


Clocking a steady 20Mbits down at the moment in the Terminal which is nothing exceptional but perfectly useable. No 2600mhz 4G either from what I can see.
Ed3925
02-10-2016
Has anyone else noticed that EE's coverage map seems quite out of date with respect to 4g+ coverage?

I've noticed 4g+/CA in quite a few areas which don't have it, according to the official map.
planetf1
03-10-2016
Oddly this weekend at Brands Hatch Three was consistently getting 10-30 Mbps down, and decent up. This was on 4G.Only a little less on 2G - around 8-10 Mbps

BT Mobile meanwhile (EE) was frequently around the 0.1-0.5 Mbps speeds on 4G.......

Surprising and odd.
packages
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by planetf1:
“Oddly this weekend at Brands Hatch Three was consistently getting 10-30 Mbps down, and decent up. This was on 4G.Only a little less on 2G - around 8-10 Mbps

BT Mobile meanwhile (EE) was frequently around the 0.1-0.5 Mbps speeds on 4G.......

Surprising and odd.”

That is an amazing speed for 2G! Even better that it was on Three, I didn't think they had a 2G Network!
beans0ntoast
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“That is an amazing speed for 2G! Even better that it was on Three, I didn't think they had a 2G Network!”

I think they actually meant 3G... Since Three don't have 2G and 2G theoretical max is about 200kbps!

In regards to the actual conundrum, maybe EE had more users on that day, thus EE's spectrum was congested and Three's wasn't? Or maybe EE were prioritizing their own customers over BT Mobile...
Wouldn't be backhaul as EE and 3 share masts so it would likely be from the same mast.
Pedro_C
03-10-2016
The theoretical max of 2G rather depends on its implementation. 3 and EE do not use identical back haul.
jchamier
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by planetf1:
“BT Mobile meanwhile (EE) was frequently around the 0.1-0.5 Mbps speeds on 4G.......”

BT mobile of course is an MVNO on the EE platform, so no guarantee they will have the same performance.
packages
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“I think they actually meant 3G... Since Three don't have 2G and 2G theoretical max is about 200kbps!

In regards to the actual conundrum, maybe EE had more users on that day, thus EE's spectrum was congested and Three's wasn't? Or maybe EE were prioritizing their own customers over BT Mobile...
Wouldn't be backhaul as EE and 3 share masts so it would likely be from the same mast.”

Sorry the joke didn't come us across clear with the emoji used.
sills
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by planetf1:
“BT Mobile meanwhile (EE) was frequently around the 0.1-0.5 Mbps speeds on 4G.......”

I was there too, my mobile is direct with EE and performance was just as bad.
moox
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“BT mobile of course is an MVNO on the EE platform, so no guarantee they will have the same performance.”

It's not likely that BT will give itself Giffgaff levels of sub par performance, though...
packages
04-10-2016
The Network Status Checker page has been overhauled. You can no longer check anywhere with the zoom buttons
David_bl1
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“The Network Status Checker page has been overhauled. You can no longer check anywhere with the zoom buttons”

If you use Chrome then just click on the map and use the +/- keys to zoom, and the arrow keys to scroll around.
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