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Old 21-03-2016, 23:48
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I still wonder how they actually turn on VoLTE, do they need to send an engineer to a cell site and change a config, can it be sent remotely? How are they choosing areas to enable, is it based on 4G mast density, or something else?
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Old 22-03-2016, 01:00
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The updated coverage map for Nottingham has a reduction in 2600MHz, was the map actually wrong before or have they actually switched off some of the 2600MHz masts?
Zoom out. Seems to return around here when you do that.
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Old 22-03-2016, 01:00
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I still wonder how they actually turn on VoLTE, do they need to send an engineer to a cell site and change a config, can it be sent remotely? How are they choosing areas to enable, is it based on 4G mast density, or something else?
Seems to be town by town and I assume it can be done remotely, or else that's another huge cost with hundreds upon hundreds of new site visits.
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Old 22-03-2016, 05:14
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So, no one else has been able to connect to 800mhz yet?
Yes but data only at the moment
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Old 22-03-2016, 07:48
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Alright, alright, it's really alright!

I know what you're on about, with the dancing puppets and the bodged release of VoLTE that required you to lose 3G totally (and that there was no VoLTE on 1800 either)...

C'mon Three, make it right - don't bodge things!

Alright, we know that's not going to happen... Let's hope that EE actually shows Three how to launch VoLTE properly, and that you have the priority of 4G800 above 3G2100, so that users with VoLTE phones can stay on 4G all the time and see the improved coverage
4G800 is currently above 3G2100 in priority on EE
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Old 22-03-2016, 08:34
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Seems to be town by town and I assume it can be done remotely, or else that's another huge cost with hundreds upon hundreds of new site visits.
I'd be surprised if they need someone to visit to do anything these days, except obviously to make physical connections or do RF tests
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Old 22-03-2016, 09:42
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With how slow the rollout is I'd be surprised if it is just a case of enabling it remotely.

Other than the initial cities that were tested and are now fully enabled, I've not heard of any additional cities being enabled for VoLTE so something must be holding up the rollout.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:24
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With how slow the rollout is I'd be surprised if it is just a case of enabling it remotely.

Other than the initial cities that were tested and are now fully enabled, I've not heard of any additional cities being enabled for VoLTE so something must be holding up the rollout.
The roll out thus far seems to have been a live test, following engineer-only testing, so I can see why the roll out is slow. Let's remember that VoLTE hasn't officially launched. We've had information on here about areas covered since late last year, but EE hasn't issued a single press release to the mainstream media or told any customers.

Thus far, if you opt in on your iPhone you can get access, and EE can monitor the results.

If the roll out is delayed, it would imply they've had some issues. And these are the issues they want to iron out before launching, as their call failure rate cannot be allowed to increase as a result of launching VoLTE.

The fact there's a live customer test at all definitely suggests remote monitoring and updating, as I assume that they could disable VoLTE as quickly as they enabled it if they had to.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:59
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They have however said that the S7 would get VoLTE shortly after release, it just depends what EE's definition of shortly is.
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Old 22-03-2016, 11:10
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That is great Gavin, nice one.

However, I want to see a sea of, let's say 800 = orange
Unfortunately no change to the 800 layer so nothing new to show at this point.
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Old 22-03-2016, 11:21
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Unfortunately no change to the 800 layer so nothing new to show at this point.
Have you got the current layer then? Can't remember you posting it?
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Old 22-03-2016, 11:31
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They have however said that the S7 would get VoLTE shortly after release, it just depends what EE's definition of shortly is.
The same was said about the Nexus 6P and Wi-Fi Calling, and that only got the feature last week (and I'm not sure everyone has had the OTA update yet).

I think EE has a while yet, and I think it would rather face complaints from S7 users than have everyone complaining about an unreliable network.

We all know EE has been in no rush to launch VoLTE.
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Old 22-03-2016, 11:34
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Have you got the current layer then? Can't remember you posting it?
It was this tiny bit of red in London http://gdurl.com/Mx7N
Green = 1800, Red = 800, both from 28th Oct 2015.
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Old 22-03-2016, 12:52
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It was this tiny bit of red in London http://gdurl.com/Mx7N
Green = 1800, Red = 800, both from 28th Oct 2015.
I can pick up EE on 800 here and I'm nowhere near London. I expect that they have it in quite a few places, even if it is not yet available for public use
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Old 22-03-2016, 13:08
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I'm not saying that's the real coverage, only what's showing up on EEs coverage map online.
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Old 22-03-2016, 13:29
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MacRobert transmitter in Aberdeen went live (finally!) yesterday.

Yay. Indoor 4G.
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Old 22-03-2016, 13:48
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I'm not saying that's the real coverage, only what's showing up on EEs coverage map online.
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Yea that's definitely out of date
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Old 22-03-2016, 14:08
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I can pick up EE on 800 here and I'm nowhere near London. I expect that they have it in quite a few places, even if it is not yet available for public use
How so? I thought you said you couldn't test EE the other day?
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Old 22-03-2016, 15:24
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How so? I thought you said you couldn't test EE the other day?
I have a mifi set to 800 only, and I can do a network scan and see that EE shows up in the list. Obviously I can't connect because it's not yet available for public use

I have EE SIMs, but none with any credit on them
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Old 22-03-2016, 16:38
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Looking at the 3 thread it looks like they've been busy and a few happy users are emerging with VoLTE and 800MHz. Yes it's with TinT but reports of 4G< >3G call handover working pretty well.
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Old 22-03-2016, 16:58
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Looking at the 3 thread it looks like they've been busy and a few happy users are emerging with VoLTE and 800MHz. Yes it's with TinT but reports of 4G< >3G call handover working pretty well.
Yep on EE VoLTE>3G handover is flawless.

What I'm still confused as hell about is how VoLTE is activated on any 4G mast when you start a call on a VoLTE mast
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Old 22-03-2016, 17:08
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Anyone had any problems with valid postcodes on the Coverage Checker since it was updated yesterday?

For example: ST10 4DB (Alton Towers) is invalid apparently, but I know this worked last week.
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Old 22-03-2016, 17:16
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Anyone had any problems with valid postcodes on the Coverage Checker since it was updated yesterday?

For example: ST10 4DB (Alton Towers) is invalid apparently, but I know this worked last week.
Try clearing your browser cache.
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Old 22-03-2016, 17:18
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Yep on EE VoLTE>3G handover is flawless.

What I'm still confused as hell about is how VoLTE is activated on any 4G mast when you start a call on a VoLTE mast
I think I remember reading there's a VoLTE flag. So mosts masts are probably enabled for VoLTE but only some broadcasting the flag, so you have to start the call on a mast broadcasting the flag, and then are able to transfer to any 4G mast.
That could all be BS of course, I assume the reality lies somewhere in between.
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Old 22-03-2016, 17:20
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Yep on EE VoLTE>3G handover is flawless.

What I'm still confused as hell about is how VoLTE is activated on any 4G mast when you start a call on a VoLTE mast
Well I can make an educated guess and then someone can correct me! : )
A VoLTE call is just data, mixed in with everything else (albeit subject to heavy QOS).
So although you need to be on an activated mast to start a call, once started the data stream just hands over to other masts in the normal way as all is required is a connection to IMS.
I think....
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