May have been an over reaction but you do go in aggressively! Happy to call it quits and say I'm sorry!

To try and clarify what I typed:

No it's not a normal situation if you compare it to the situation that will exist after 800 has been made fully available. In a lot of cases it's closed to public access but is there. In Bolton I know of 2 800 masts in the metropolitan bit of it that are fully broadcasting and integrated but you'll never go on them, it's being kept hidden through the methods I described before. Same elsewhere in most urban places. It will handover to 1800 and 1800 will handover to it but if I remember correctly from the last time I looked at the signalling data it's setup so that it won't occur in normal usage (however this varies area by area they do seem to be experimenting in this pre-launch phase)

Rurally it is being used in some very limited cases as infill but that's on a restricted power not on the full capabilities of 800

It's not an "ignorant thumbsuck" lastly (although great way of putting it) but as to your second bit I have to say only

As to why you're getting it I can only say I have no idea without more detail.

I know you're on quite a limited signal at your place. Does it only go onto the 800 when there's no 2G (aka it's prioritised below 2G) at the moment? If so it's still fairly public "testing". Wait until launch for the fun

800 on EE is in a lot of different places to Three, different focuses and different approaches Look on the M61 from Bolton to Preston on Cellmapper at 800 for a rough idea of potential density.

Thanks. I've had a look. I saw you'd contributed some data

Have you noticed any 'themes' in terms of which base stations are being chosen for band 20 vs Three UK? I thought perhaps they might have launched on quite a few of the same masts initially.

Doesn't seem to be here, my local mast with EE 800 for the last 6 months is still only 3G for Three.

Which date would you be interested in the most for which coverage map layer?! Happy to share rough indications from some available data and map updates are a funny one in keeping up to date...

Themes hmm. Well EE have a wider pool of masts which have already got 4G to add 800 to so it'll include more rural ones for starters. Then in cities I have a feeling that EE is looking for alternative measures for deep indoor coverage rather than 800 so I'd say the shift on 800 on EE is away from urban and more to rural infill if that helps.

I imagine this is because EE want to maintain good speeds. What sort of changes have you noticed EE making in urban areas to improve indoor coverage?

It's strange. Some days my phone will sit on very weak EDGE and won't switch to anything else except occasionally trying even weaker HSPA+ and going back to EDGE.

On other days, it will decide HSPA+ is too weak and switch to 800MHz 4G and will stay there forever. If I make a call though, often the signal mysteriously vanishes and I'm back on HSPA+ for the remainder of the day.

If you want to see an area with most EE masts live for 800MHz 4G, look around Godalming, Elstead, Hindhead, Milford, Wonersh etc on cellmapper.

Hull also already has a good number.

Thanks, I will. Do you think EE are concerned about the 800 MHz layer becoming congested if used in urban areas? Could this be delaying wider implementation at the moment?

My experience of 800 down here is every town has at least one site with 800 and often more. Also a good amount of rural sites cabled up too. managed to get my iPhone stuck on 800 in Tavistock today and got a few reasonable speed tests (10-15 meg).

Apology not needed, sometimes a bit of a temp rise does the forum good

Quits is good

That sounds like what I see, even though I'm on almost an exact diagonal at the other end of England..

Actually, I think Gigabit is up my way as well (unless I'm confusing people).

According to Cellmapper, just one EE mast in my local town centre has been found to be transmitting 800 MHz (first seen last Thursday). I don't think it was me who connected, but it might have been...

Hi all,

I want to take advantage of the 16GB £19.99 promo EE currently have on but my current EE contract doesn't end until the 28th November.

What's the options I have here?

I'd call up and see if they'll let you upgrade early, as they're getting another 12 month commitment from you that way. They'd be silly not to.

I was down in Cornwall at the weekend. 4G coverage in the vast majority of places now however a bit of 4G 800 would help in a few indoor locations.

Speeds were fantastic as usual everywhere. 100Mbps + recorded in Boscastle from an old ex Orange 2G mast now doing 2G/4G. The only network to cover the area as well. http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/2282488488

Orange/Legacy Style EE Masts Explained with Schematics! Diversity Types+Vertical/Diagonal Polarisation+Omni to Six sector varieties

EE has live, code 30, six sector masts about too; it's not just O2!

The Vertical Polarisation, spacial diversity, masts also performed pretty much to my expectations of diagonal, polarisational diversity panels used for roughly the last decade.

Can you confirm what type of legacy mast this is?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.85...7i13312!8i6656

Call up and "Upgrade".

My flatemate recently "upgraded" early from a £50/m iphone contract to a £19.99/m SIMO contract with no hassles.

Dual band Vpol with spacial diversity. Same panels/setup is show in the video at 07:18

Bet there is still no 4G in the centre of Penzance. Voda/O2 did their masts ages ago.

4G coverage updated 😎

Coverage map updated