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EE 2G/3G/4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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d123
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Well O2 and Vodafone are going big on small cells, especially for indoor locations. So it's not that crazy an idea!”

Though I doubt they would be all that cooperative to install a small 3G cell at the bottom of his garden for his exclusive use
sparky93
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“Though I doubt they would be all that cooperative to install a small 3G cell at the bottom of his garden for his exclusive use ”

i love my little 3g cell in my lounge
LegendaryAced
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“Does these new sim only plans include eu data roaming? or just call and texts?”

The plan I got includes EU calls, texts and data roaming.

Essential: no roaming allowances
4GEE: EU calls and texts + 500MB EU data per month
4GEE Max: EU calls and texts + up to 15GB EU data that deducts from your UK allowance per month
Caspa_The_Ghost
17-11-2016
I have to say that I'm with d123 on this. I'm predominantly London based and my experience of 3G these days is little to no throughput more often than not.
d123
17-11-2016
Originally Posted by sparky93:
“i love my little 3g cell in my lounge ”

Of course that little box isn't really a 3G cell in the sense of the mini-cells being discussed here, your one simply feeds your 3G signal into your wifi (so avoiding all the crappiness of the actual 3G signal floating around outside your house ).
jonmorris
17-11-2016
Thought you might like to hear the good news...

https://jmcomms.com/2016/11/17/exclu...ive-next-week/

Have to say I am quite shocked, expecting that at this time of the year nothing major would be happening.

(Edit: should have added here, 800MHz switches on next week!)
pepstar
17-11-2016
I'm in my upgrade period I was paying £17 for 6gb UL/UL before, with a little conversation to the retention team I got the £25 20GB max tarriff for £20 quid which i am quite happy with as i get the apple music and all that too...

EE do have some good deals at the moment, I am guessing the current tarriffs are their black friday deals given they run until the 29th November
Denco1
17-11-2016
Wow, holy s***
What I do wonder though is whether the official launch will result in a power increase on most 800 sites, or whether it will just be a case of 800 sites appearing on the coverage checker for the first time, gradually building up to full power as the rollout continues.

I would have thought that EE currently have enough 800 sites to make a larger increase than 2% geographic coverage if they were all on full power, but maybe I'm overestimating the amount of 800 sites EE currently have.
jonmorris
17-11-2016
It's still pretty significant and perhaps 800 is being utilised a lot in towns and cities (they've done loads of work around Hatfield and Welwyn Garden City on a number of sites in the last 14 days) so as to get that 500,000 homes figure - rather than just increase geographic coverage.

That would make sense, and I guess I'll know next week as there are times I can go onto 3G, which is hit and miss (one minute, no data flow, next minute 25Mbps - go figure!). I expect 4G 800 will be slower than the best 3G I get, but I'd sooner have consistency and reliability every day.

Any currently live 800 site for testing will presumably get the power turned up, but also require VoLTE for access.
jo_m1
17-11-2016
Do you have any idea of the extent of 4G800 coverage in London?

Would be great to know that EE have a lot of sites ready here, as indoor coverage from EE is frequently worse than from Vodafone/O2.
jonmorris
17-11-2016
No idea. Even staff can't see 800 sites yet (well, obviously SOME network people can, but you know what I mean).

Once live, you'll be able to enter a phone on the checker and see the different map. I do hope they colour things so it's clear, given the current mix of colours for 4G, double speed and 4G+.

I was surprised to notice that I was on 4G 800 on Three today at Finsbury Park station. I didn't expect there to be much 800 in London, and certainly not for me to be overground and connected to 800 over 3G and 1800 4G!
Pedro_C
18-11-2016
There are absolutely tons of pseudo hidden EE L08 sites in Hull. Was testing earlier today.
CheshireBumpkin
18-11-2016
Any idea if 800 will be accessible by mbb devices on data only plans?
jonmorris
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“Any idea if 800 will be accessible by mbb devices on data only plans?”

I don't think so because MBB SIM cards are actually able to make calls and text. I suppose if EE decided to bar calls they could.
jonmorris
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“There are absolutely tons of pseudo hidden EE L08 sites in Hull. Was testing earlier today.”

They must have a lot of sites and many more to come. I am really quite excited!
jo_m1
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I don't think so because MBB SIM cards are actually able to make calls and text. I suppose if EE decided to bar calls they could.”

Also considering that only 5Mhz are available to EE, they might only allow smartphones to access the 4G800 band to prevent capacity issues.
DevonBloke
18-11-2016
I think there are going to be many more sites than they officially stated.
When you look at how many towns there are in the UK and the fact that most of them seem to have at least 1 or 2 800 sites, many of them a lot more, 4000 odd sites doesn't compute!
DevonBloke
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by jo_m1:
“Also considering that only 5Mhz are available to EE, they might only allow smartphones to access the 4G800 band to prevent capacity issues.”

And combine this with the fact that data devices, Mifis and particularly routers have way better antennas so can normally pick up the current low power L18 easily, there is little need for data SIMs to access 800 anyway.
sparky93
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Thought you might like to hear the good news...

https://jmcomms.com/2016/11/17/exclu...ive-next-week/

Have to say I am quite shocked, expecting that at this time of the year nothing major would be happening.

(Edit: should have added here, 800MHz switches on next week!)”

I have 2 virgins in my house as well, 4g sims are on way too. wonder if its just ee users(pm) or vm users too.
packages
18-11-2016
Finally EE, finally!!!

I would guess we may see a few more phones added to the 4G Calling list too next week.

Gigabit
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“Finally EE, finally!!!

I would guess we may see a few more phones added to the 4G Calling list too next week.

”

What do you know that we don't?
Gigabit
18-11-2016
Is the power going to be on full from next week too?
Synthetic42
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“Is the power going to be on full from next week too?”

Yes, full power from day 1
Gigabit
18-11-2016
And by "next week" are we meaning Monday at 12:01?
WelshBluebird
18-11-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Thought you might like to hear the good news...

https://jmcomms.com/2016/11/17/exclu...ive-next-week/

Have to say I am quite shocked, expecting that at this time of the year nothing major would be happening.

(Edit: should have added here, 800MHz switches on next week!)”

So, I have a Galaxy S7 Edge bought elsewhere, unlocked running the BTU firmware. However I have installed the Nouget beta from Samsung which enables VoLTE. Does this mean 800Mhz will work for yet? Got a feeling the answer is either "no" or "no idea", but still curious!
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