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EE 2G/3G/4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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ozz
23-04-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“Yea sometimes it will work without you having to do any fancy stuff but most of time you have to fiddle around with it”

You can also pan around with the arrow keys on the keyboard.
packages
23-04-2016
Originally Posted by ozz:
“You can also pan around with the arrow keys on the keyboard.”

As I mentioned in my first post.
ozz
23-04-2016
The mast I passed today that was offline for work didn't show up on the status checker.
packages
24-04-2016
Just found this help page for 4G Calling which lists the cities where it has been officially switched on:

http://ee.co.uk/help/phones-and-device/4g-calling

Belfast
Birmingham
Boston
Bristol
Darlington
Edinburgh
Glasgow
Grantham
Hatfield
Hull
Leeds
London
Manchester
Newcastle
Redditch
Scunthorpe
hybridtheory
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“Just found this help page for 4G Calling which lists the cities where it has been officially switched on:

http://ee.co.uk/help/phones-and-device/4g-calling

Belfast
Birmingham
Boston
Bristol
Darlington
Edinburgh
Glasgow
Grantham
Hatfield
Hull
Leeds
London
Manchester
Newcastle
Redditch
Scunthorpe”

Hi

Good to see Belfast on the list Im guessing 4G Calling is EE's term for VoLTE?

I wonder when they will announce the rollout of 800MHz?

Baz
moox
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“Just found this help page for 4G Calling which lists the cities where it has been officially switched on:”

I wonder if that is definitive, or similar to 3's "list of cities" for anything 4G.

I'm happily using VoLTE on 800 on 3, but according to their list nowhere within 120 miles of me has it officially.

I can certainly pick up EE on 800 here but I have neither a SIM or an approved phone to test.
packages
24-04-2016
Another thing page says. VoLTE to VoLTE calls will have to international dialling tone like WiFi Calling. I thought they would of been able to change this by now.
packages
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by moox:
“I wonder if that is definitive, or similar to 3's "list of cities" for anything 4G.

I'm happily using VoLTE on 800 on 3, but according to their list nowhere within 120 miles of me has it officially.

I can certainly pick up EE on 800 here but I have neither a SIM or an approved phone to test.”

It's not definitive, they are a few masts in Herefordshire that have VoLTE fully switched on now for a couple of weeks.
packages
25-04-2016
EE is aiming to bring 4G to 95% of the UK landmass by 2020 (government's target for operators is to provide voice and text coverage to only 90% of UK landmass by the end of 2017) as well as relocating its customer services to the UK and Ireland.

http://ee.co.uk/our-company/newsroom...ge_to_95_of_UK

Article states 4G Calling (VoLTE) will be rolled out everywhere by July.
hybridtheory
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“EE is aiming to bring 4G to 95% of the UK landmass by 2020 (government's target for operators is to provide voice and text coverage to only 90% of UK landmass by the end of 2017) as well as relocating its customer services to the UK and Ireland.

http://ee.co.uk/our-company/newsroom...ge_to_95_of_UK

Article states 4G Calling (VoLTE) will be rolled out everywhere by July.”

HI

Good news to read this I wonder when the rollout is complete in July 2016 will it then have the power turn up?

Can we expect any kind of announcement on 800MHz this summer?

Thanks

Baz
Synthetic42
25-04-2016
Doubt it, I doubt anyone other than us lot will notice they're on 800 anyway
jonmorris
25-04-2016
4000 sites with 800MHz by 2020. Presume much of Scotland will consist of that.
plymouthbloke1974
25-04-2016
I saw on a news article today that BT had rolled out fibre to the Scilly Isles.... I immediately thought it wouldn't be long before we rolled out 4G there as the area has always been 2G only. Didn't realise we'd be that on the ball to be switching it on today!
hybridtheory
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by Synthetic42:
“Doubt it, I doubt anyone other than us lot will notice they're on 800 anyway ”

Hi

Will EE be setting 800Mhz at the same priority as Three?

Thanks

Baz
Synthetic42
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by hybridtheory:
“Hi

Will EE be setting 800Mhz at the same priority as Three?

Thanks

Baz”

Nope it'll be above 3G
Broken Hope
25-04-2016
I'm surprised EE has 4G only areas as per that press release, that means people without VoLTE capable phone can't make calls in those areas?
matty1000kk
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by Broken Hope:
“I'm surprised EE has 4G only areas as per that press release, that means people without VoLTE capable phone can't make calls in those areas?”

Because it will be 4G 800mhz which will travel further than 1800mhz 2G and 2100mhz 3G.

It will ultimately be restricted to VOLTE (4G voice) capable devices only.
CheshireBumpkin
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“EE is aiming to bring 4G to 95% of the UK landmass by 2020”

I'm guessing this aim isn't out of the goodness of EE/BT's heart, or a desire to service us bumpkins, but an SLA in the new bluelight contract.
jonmorris
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by matty1000kk:
“Because it will be 4G 800mhz which will travel further than 1800mhz 2G and 2100mhz 3G.

It will ultimately be restricted to VOLTE (4G voice) capable devices only.”

There's nothing to say EE couldn't offer an equivalent to inTouch for existing phone users if it wanted to. In fact, it would make sense to do just that (but before anyone wonders if I know something, I am purely speculating off my own back here).

Three's app is just a rebadged app from a company providing solutions to anyone that wants it.

By 2020, there won't likely be that many people with a phone that doesn't have VoLTE support natively OR couldn't run an app that routes calls over 4G.
Stereo Steve
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“There's nothing to say EE couldn't offer an equivalent to inTouch for existing phone users if it wanted to. In fact, it would make sense to do just that (but before anyone wonders if I know something, I am purely speculating off my own back here).

Three's app is just a rebadged app from a company providing solutions to anyone that wants it.

By 2020, there won't likely be that many people with a phone that doesn't have VoLTE support natively OR couldn't run an app that routes calls over 4G.”

I would hope they wouldn't waste their time on that to be honest. I can't use 3 TinT to make 4G calls on my current phone so will look to change soon. The way the coverage is unfolding, I may wait a while for iPhone 7, see how it looks and how the field looks then. Maybe stay PAYG, maybe go Sim Only. Will see what VOD have achieved by Autumn down here and also if EE are looking to put 800 on our mast or not. I think if you have an older device, you just have to accept that some stuff won't work on it. At the end of the day there is probably a budget Android device you can buy outright which will work (Moto G, second hand Nexus or similar). So, I don't believe the networks should spend time pandering to those of us on older or incompatible tech.
Skippy2005
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by hybridtheory:
“Hi

Will EE be setting 800Mhz at the same priority as Three?

Thanks

Baz”

Further to this question and this mornings announcement, is 800 available on pay and go? I'm using a pay and go sim to try out the network before jumping ship. One question was answered this morning regarding VoLTE only being avaliable on pay monthly or business, would one assume this applies to 800 too?
enapace
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“I saw on a news article today that BT had rolled out fibre to the Scilly Isles.... I immediately thought it wouldn't be long before we rolled out 4G there as the area has always been 2G only. Didn't realise we'd be that on the ball to be switching it on today! ”

Think the Cornwall BUK Project had that sorted last year.
Stereo Steve
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by Skippy2005:
“Further to this question and this mornings announcement, is 800 available on pay and go? I'm using a pay and go sim to try out the network before jumping ship. One question was answered this morning regarding VoLTE only being avaliable on pay monthly or business, would one assume this applies to 800 too?”

You will need VoLTE to make any kind of call over 4G, whatever the frequency. So if VoLTE is not allowed on PAYG then 800 will only be for data and the phone will drop to 2/3G for calls as it does with 1800 4G. 800 might not even work at all, someone who actually knows what they are talking about will confirm.
Skippy2005
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“You will need VoLTE to make any kind of call over 4G, whatever the frequency. So if VoLTE is not allowed on PAYG then 800 will only be for data and the phone will drop to 2/3G for calls as it does with 1800 4G. 800 might not even work at all, someone who actually knows what they are talking about will confirm.”

I know this, sorry I should have made myself a little more clear I'm trying to determine if 800 is in my area as 4G1800 indoors is none existent. I have the iPhone 6s Plus, so I know it works. I'm trying to work out if 800 is only avaliable on pay monthly because I could be sat on a good 4G signal and not know it if 800 is only restricted to pay monthly, I'm testing the network with a pay and go before leaving Vodafone.
moox
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by enapace:
“Think the Cornwall BUK Project had that sorted last year.”

2014 (and it's not a BDUK project, the Cornish rural broadband project is independent of that - but that's just petty pedantry)
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