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Moved my external antenna today after the painters had finished working outside....
http://www.speedtest.net/result/5305730574.png From woeful ADSL at less than 2mbps down and 0.5 up, I'm pretty happy! ![]() |
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Told you :-p
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800 from where? Wakefield house( by trinity walk) or the lattice tower at police HQ?
Are we seeing any signs of 800 being rolled out on EE then? |
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Just restarted my unlocked Galaxy S5 and noticed 4G strength was about 20dBm higher than normal. Went into service mode and it said Band 20 5mhz.
I did a quick speed test and got 30mb down 10 up but after about a minute it went back to 1800. Interestingly, this cell is also one of the only masts ive found in the area with 2600, and is the main mast for the town. |
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Any one know what brand antenna these are on the left hand side i know they are 2g and 4g 1800mhz https://www.flickr.com/photos/141897...posted-public/
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Any one know what brand antenna these are on the left hand side i know they are 2g and 4g 1800mhz https://www.flickr.com/photos/141897...posted-public/
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Commscope Andrew, dual band 800+1800/2100
Looks like that mast will end up going 800, if they are one low and one high input. |
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Sorry not those ones they would have been to the left if was at front of mast but its the angle the pic is taken at its the two thin ones directly under the new end left microwave link the one is turning yellow, Those commscope antenna have not long been put up they where laying on the floor covered in muck for over a year i have been told they are wired up for ee and three 2100mhz only and the thin ones are wired up for 1800 2g 4g only, No 800mhz for this site that comes from one about a mile to the left, This site is also still faulty it has been for about a year it gives slow speeds due to interference on the sectors ee engineers can not find the fault or source of interference Quote:
Commscope Andrew, dual band 800+1800/2100
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Im guessing that the odd 'dot' of 4g that i get is from Wakefield House and therefore 800 from there will be quite a bit stronger.
Are we seeing any signs of 800 being rolled out on EE then? |
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Any one looking to test VOLTE on EE to let you know its not available on pay as you go
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Any one looking to test VOLTE on EE to let you know its not available on pay as you go
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With external antennas on 1800mhz 2100mhz you need some really good high quality low loss cable, I was lucky to already have some or would have cost me a few hundred quid in cable Quote:
Moved my external antenna today after the painters had finished working outside....
http://www.speedtest.net/result/5305730574.png From woeful ADSL at less than 2mbps down and 0.5 up, I'm pretty happy! ![]() |
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Sorry not those ones they would have been to the left if was at front of mast but its the angle the pic is taken at its the two thin ones directly under the new end left microwave link the one is turning yellow,
Those commscope antenna have not long been put up they where laying on the floor covered in muck for over a year i have been told they are wired up for ee and three 2100mhz only and the thin ones are wired up for 1800 2g 4g only, No 800mhz for this site that comes from one about a mile to the left, This site is also still faulty it has been for about a year it gives slow speeds due to interference on the sectors ee engineers can not find the fault or source of interference The single input panels (the smaller ones) will be 1800 2G/4G and quite possibly even 3G2100, as it is common for 1800/2100 to be combined into the same input. Maybe 800 will be coming from that site in the future, or the dual input panels may actually be both high inputs - though can't be certain about anything. If Pedro C was around, he'd be able to confirm what's going on (as he knows a lot more than I do!). |
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VoLTE still seems to be completely switched off in Nottingham after being intermittently available for 3 weeks.
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With external antennas on 1800mhz 2100mhz you need some really good high quality low loss cable, I was lucky to already have some or would have cost me a few hundred quid in cable
I'm more than happy with the gain and resulting speeds so I'm following the 'if it aint broke' mantra on this one....
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VoLTE still seems to be completely switched off in Nottingham after being intermittently available for 3 weeks.
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dts5000-
Commscope Andrew dual band Kathrein Single/dual bands 1800/2100/800MHz |
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https://www.google.com/maps/place/30...14e1d5ed89ef46
This old Orange mast may be coming back to life. It's in Sheffield city centre, on top of the University. When it was live, back in the day it meant Orange was the only network to offer any kind of service in the Student Union underground. It was decommissioned back during the merger. This afternoon some guy in a hi-via vest was on climbing up it, and now it has two new white panels. The area has good 4G reception currently. But it's great to see EE building the network out. I'm surprised it's taken them this long tbh. I did notice it has microwave. Is it normal for city centre masts to be microwaved? Is there any way to tell if the microwave link is for this mast, or supporting another mast? Obviously both masts must have a microwave, but is there a difference in 'receiving/sending' microwave dishes? |
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4G calling and 800 rollout
Hi guys anyone noticed any new cities or towns that have had 4G calling switched on, or 800 activated??
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The Wacky S4 Saga Continues...
Well... Today, I thought I'd try something a bit different to normal...
Having heard that EE SIMs like to keep you on 3G/4G the longest, I thought I'd try setting the S4 to its default network mode (i.e. LTE/GSM auto) and see what happens. With poor network selection on my old Virgin SIM, would the S4 behave better on EE? The answer... yes and no. Went to Northampton earlier today, and the journey (approximately 20 miles) was interesting. I knew that the whole route was covered by 3G, though some areas were quite weak. (Don't know if CTIL would be any better, given the fact that they aren't usually the best in regards to 3G/4G, but that's an experiment for another time.) On the way to Northampton, the S4 was reasonable in network selection. Between Wellingborough and the outskirts of Northampton, it did flick quite often between 3G and 4G, due to them both being quite weak in areas. Once, near Earls Barton, it dropped from 3% 3G to 60% 2G - I suppose this may have been for call reliability? I know that calls wouldn't work on a -111dBm 3G signal. After a few seconds, it picked 3G back up again, at 17% strength. The rest of the way, once I'd reached the outskirts of Northampton, was all 4G. On the way back... slightly better. Stayed on 4G for longer, though at some points, 4G was quite weak (-120dBm). I assume that 3G was also weak there, so it hung on for 4G. It did drop to 3G, but when 3G was stronger. At no time on the return journey was I shunted down to GPRS/EDGE. So it seemed like the EE SIM did make a difference, and that the S4 picked the network type much more "smartly" - i.e. based on the signal strengths of other network types. So, for example, if you have a weak 4G signal, but a strong 3G one, the S4 usually goes to 3G - and if both 4G and 3G are weak, then what the phone does depends on how weak 3G/4G is, and how strong 2G is. There was a footnote to this, though... At my home location, my phone has always tended to go for 3G, as our local mast for 2G and 3G is only about 200m away. However, a semi-local mast has now gone 4G. Upstairs, in my bedroom (where my computer is located), I can get between 40% and 50% 4G signal - hence, the S4 is going for that instead of the 60% 3G signal. When I went downstairs though, it went from a weak (0 bar) 4G signal, to 4 bars of 2G?! Seriously, WHY? 3G is available downstairs at 2-3 bars strength (at least 25%, up to 42%). In the end, it did go to 3G, but that begs the question: why oh why oh why is this wacky phone jumping to 2G when 3G is available, and at quite a strong signal strength?! Looks like I'm going to have to stick to WCDMA only mode until either (a) EE's 4G is fully rolled out, so then I can use LTE Only mode when streaming (or risk the default mode), (b) I can find a way to change the internal thresholds at when the phone goes to 2G (instead of 3G), (c) I can find a way of having a mode that allows 3G and 4G, but ignoring 2G, or (d) the S4 finally bites the bullet in about 3 years time, and I upgrade to a VoLTE phone <- in this situation, LTE Only mode will suffice. Anyone have a clue why this S4 is doing this? Or, more to the point, does anyone have an idea on how to add/enable an "LTE/WCDMA" mode in this S4? |
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Or another Samsung, newer than the S4. That'll be what i'm doing when funds permit.
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Or another Samsung, newer than the S4. That'll be what i'm doing when funds permit.
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Well... Today, I thought I'd try something a bit different to normal...
Having heard that EE SIMs like to keep you on 3G/4G the longest, I thought I'd try setting the S4 to its default network mode (i.e. LTE/GSM auto) and see what happens. With poor network selection on my old Virgin SIM, would the S4 behave better on EE? The answer... yes and no. Went to Northampton earlier today, and the journey (approximately 20 miles) was interesting. I knew that the whole route was covered by 3G, though some areas were quite weak. (Don't know if CTIL would be any better, given the fact that they aren't usually the best in regards to 3G/4G, but that's an experiment for another time.) On the way to Northampton, the S4 was reasonable in network selection. Between Wellingborough and the outskirts of Northampton, it did flick quite often between 3G and 4G, due to them both being quite weak in areas. Once, near Earls Barton, it dropped from 3% 3G to 60% 2G - I suppose this may have been for call reliability? I know that calls wouldn't work on a -111dBm 3G signal. After a few seconds, it picked 3G back up again, at 17% strength. The rest of the way, once I'd reached the outskirts of Northampton, was all 4G. On the way back... slightly better. Stayed on 4G for longer, though at some points, 4G was quite weak (-120dBm). I assume that 3G was also weak there, so it hung on for 4G. It did drop to 3G, but when 3G was stronger. At no time on the return journey was I shunted down to GPRS/EDGE. So it seemed like the EE SIM did make a difference, and that the S4 picked the network type much more "smartly" - i.e. based on the signal strengths of other network types. So, for example, if you have a weak 4G signal, but a strong 3G one, the S4 usually goes to 3G - and if both 4G and 3G are weak, then what the phone does depends on how weak 3G/4G is, and how strong 2G is. There was a footnote to this, though... At my home location, my phone has always tended to go for 3G, as our local mast for 2G and 3G is only about 200m away. However, a semi-local mast has now gone 4G. Upstairs, in my bedroom (where my computer is located), I can get between 40% and 50% 4G signal - hence, the S4 is going for that instead of the 60% 3G signal. When I went downstairs though, it went from a weak (0 bar) 4G signal, to 4 bars of 2G?! Seriously, WHY? 3G is available downstairs at 2-3 bars strength (at least 25%, up to 42%). In the end, it did go to 3G, but that begs the question: why oh why oh why is this wacky phone jumping to 2G when 3G is available, and at quite a strong signal strength?! Looks like I'm going to have to stick to WCDMA only mode until either (a) EE's 4G is fully rolled out, so then I can use LTE Only mode when streaming (or risk the default mode), (b) I can find a way to change the internal thresholds at when the phone goes to 2G (instead of 3G), (c) I can find a way of having a mode that allows 3G and 4G, but ignoring 2G, or (d) the S4 finally bites the bullet in about 3 years time, and I upgrade to a VoLTE phone <- in this situation, LTE Only mode will suffice. Anyone have a clue why this S4 is doing this? Or, more to the point, does anyone have an idea on how to add/enable an "LTE/WCDMA" mode in this S4? You would solve 2 problems. First you would possibly need a new phone which might actually work and secondly you wouldn't need to mention every frequency and every mobile technology 1000 times in every thread. |
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