Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Which Lumia models?”
“Which Lumia models?”
Microsoft Lumia 550, 650, 950, 950XL (all have to be EE branded obviously)
Areas where VoLTE is live and more info here: http://ee.co.uk/help/phones-and-device/4g-calling
EE 2G/3G/4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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Microsoft Lumia 550, 650, 950, 950XL (all have to be EE branded obviously)
Areas where VoLTE is live and more info here: http://ee.co.uk/help/phones-and-device/4g-calling
Originally Posted by packages:
“Nope only iPhones and Nokia Lumia phones.”
“Nope only iPhones and Nokia Lumia phones.”
That's OK then no need to feel left out ha ha
Originally Posted by ozz:
“There is an intermediate ex Orange 2G only mast here https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.35...7i13312!8i6656
which when upgraded to 3G/4G will help give better data coverage and fill the hole between Barton Mills and the monument site. Bit of 800Mhz 4G would be ideal in this area.
When I went to Snetterton last year the 3G coverage seemed ok around Center Parcs but fades away towards the by-pass junction. There was an old T-Mobile site here but it looks like it's been de-commissioned https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.39...7i13312!8i6656
4G in Thetford now but still abysmal signal along the Brettenham Heath stretch of the A11.
4G arrived at Snetterton now so hopefully be able to use data at the BTCC this year
”
“There is an intermediate ex Orange 2G only mast here https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.35...7i13312!8i6656
which when upgraded to 3G/4G will help give better data coverage and fill the hole between Barton Mills and the monument site. Bit of 800Mhz 4G would be ideal in this area.
When I went to Snetterton last year the 3G coverage seemed ok around Center Parcs but fades away towards the by-pass junction. There was an old T-Mobile site here but it looks like it's been de-commissioned https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.39...7i13312!8i6656
4G in Thetford now but still abysmal signal along the Brettenham Heath stretch of the A11.
4G arrived at Snetterton now so hopefully be able to use data at the BTCC this year
”
I saw that mast earlier today and that is also a bit of a weak spot for 3G - though the area is much better than before. There's a new lollipop mast at the Mildenhall/Thetford etc roundabout at the end (or it was upgraded); this gives good coverage for the start of the A11 along there.
The 2G/4G mast in discussion earlier would also fill in a nice not-spot for 3G if 3G was activated on there.
I can see why 2G/4G would be a good move in a few years time, for refarming of 3G spectrum, getting people to upgrade etc, but now isn't a very good time to do 2G/4G, especially in an area that has no 3G at all and is reliant on said 2G/4G mast.
Originally Posted by hammy_y:
“I think when they add 4G to a mast, it takes a bit longer for 3G to be added because they have to wait for MBNL. I could be wrong though.”
“I think when they add 4G to a mast, it takes a bit longer for 3G to be added because they have to wait for MBNL. I could be wrong though.”
I've heard that as well, though I've also heard that there are some sites that have gone 2G/4G only (i.e. no 3G). Doing 2G/4G isn't really something I'd recommend for areas with no 3G at all, especially whilst I'm still having to try and juggle the S4's not-so-smart network switching modes.
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“I know the exact mast you are talking about, its this one here: https://goo.gl/maps/LuzMEPvft6Q2 and has only got EE 2G (EDGE) & 4G, No sign of 3G for either EE or 3 customers. Speeds are almost always above 100mbps when testing.”
“I know the exact mast you are talking about, its this one here: https://goo.gl/maps/LuzMEPvft6Q2 and has only got EE 2G (EDGE) & 4G, No sign of 3G for either EE or 3 customers. Speeds are almost always above 100mbps when testing.”
That's the one! I tested it on the return journey from Lowestoft, and it did indeed show up as 4G, so that mast is definitely 2G/4G at the moment. I don't see a real reason why - it now has triple (or at least dual) input panels, so 2100 can easily be combined into the 1800 feed. One of the inputs on that mast has to be 800 as well, due to the topography and trees! (CTIL have 900 3G along there, I think, and according to the coverage maps, it seems to be better at raw coverage.) Perhaps it might be due to permission issues and installing cabinets in such a forest area?
Originally Posted by bookey_uk:
“Thetford Forest is hard to cover for the reason which is clear from the name.
Don't have all 18,500 site memorised, i'll take a look next week and see what is noted for 3G add.
This might cause a stir but 4G is the most important layer, 2G and 3G are legacy networks and 2G has more life left in it than 3G.”
“Thetford Forest is hard to cover for the reason which is clear from the name.
Don't have all 18,500 site memorised, i'll take a look next week and see what is noted for 3G add.
This might cause a stir but 4G is the most important layer, 2G and 3G are legacy networks and 2G has more life left in it than 3G.”
I found out last year (and the year before) about how hard that area was to cover; there have been some substantial improvements to 3G coverage since this time last year, and 4G seems to be good as well (though I didn't test it fully). I think I sent you a PM about it sometime before, and that you said it would get better, which it has done.
Thank you, it'd be appreciated, as that is quite a large blackspot for 3G on the EE network, and there are still quite a lot of people who have 3G phones at the present time.
I've heard from other people on here that 4G will soon be the base layer, with an eventual switch off of 2G and 3G (3G going first?). Hopefully by the time 3G disappears, I'll have got a VoLTE phone as my main handset
Originally Posted by d123:
“What???
But 3G is the holy grail! It even makes you tea when you're thirsty! This is just so cruel!
Everyone knows that 3G is the best!
”
“What???
But 3G is the holy grail! It even makes you tea when you're thirsty! This is just so cruel!
Everyone knows that 3G is the best!
”
Hahaha
Certainly in my experience, 3G has (so far) been the best for reliability of streaming media. 4G hasn't been fully rolled out yet, and 2G won't work for streaming.
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“The road linking Thetford and Brandon (B1107) is still a known not-spot area for all uk networks, where all calls WILL drop.”
“The road linking Thetford and Brandon (B1107) is still a known not-spot area for all uk networks, where all calls WILL drop.”
I looked on EE's coverage map a while back and not even 2G reaches into that bank of trees! Assuming that the other networks won't manage either, due to such trees. Would be an ideal location for an MIP mast.
Here's the Thetford Conundrum...
I've noticed that parts of Thetford, namely the area near the A11/A134 roundabout still ahve weak 3G signal... and I can explain what I know, but would like some assistance as to what may or may not happen.
First mast, closest to the A11. Would provide optimal coverage along the A11 and the west/south of Thetford.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...653!4d0.685507
Has Vodafone 2G/3G (possibly 4G as well now), O2 2G/3G (possibly 4G now) and T-Mobile 2G only. Could possibly be providing EE 2G coverage, though don't know as I don't use 2G.
Second mast, to the East, near the TV relay:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.42...7i13312!8i6656
Orange 2G at the top - possibly decommissioned, possibly still in use? Again don't know as don't use 2G
Three and EE 3G at the bottom (via MBNL). Does the 3G for the area. Signal very weak in some parts, due to low antenna height and distance from the other mobile comms mast (nearer the A11).
What is the plan in regards to 3G/4G at these masts? Will the T-Mob 2G mast gain 4G and 3G? Or will the MBNL 3G mast get 4G as well? If the 2nd mast gets 4G, will the new panels be used at the same height as the Orange panels, in order to gain 3G.4G coverage?
In an ideal world, the T-Mob 2G panels (on the 1st mast) would go EE 2G/3G/4G + Three 3G/4G; on the 2nd mast, the MBNL panels would get moved to the top (where the Orange panels are) and also go EE 2G/3G/4G + 3 3G/4G. That would ensure optimal coverage, but unlikely?
I don't know what will happen - if anyone can help shed light on the matter, it'd be greatly appreciated!
I've noticed that parts of Thetford, namely the area near the A11/A134 roundabout still ahve weak 3G signal... and I can explain what I know, but would like some assistance as to what may or may not happen.
First mast, closest to the A11. Would provide optimal coverage along the A11 and the west/south of Thetford.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...653!4d0.685507
Has Vodafone 2G/3G (possibly 4G as well now), O2 2G/3G (possibly 4G now) and T-Mobile 2G only. Could possibly be providing EE 2G coverage, though don't know as I don't use 2G.
Second mast, to the East, near the TV relay:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.42...7i13312!8i6656
Orange 2G at the top - possibly decommissioned, possibly still in use? Again don't know as don't use 2G
Three and EE 3G at the bottom (via MBNL). Does the 3G for the area. Signal very weak in some parts, due to low antenna height and distance from the other mobile comms mast (nearer the A11).
What is the plan in regards to 3G/4G at these masts? Will the T-Mob 2G mast gain 4G and 3G? Or will the MBNL 3G mast get 4G as well? If the 2nd mast gets 4G, will the new panels be used at the same height as the Orange panels, in order to gain 3G.4G coverage?
In an ideal world, the T-Mob 2G panels (on the 1st mast) would go EE 2G/3G/4G + Three 3G/4G; on the 2nd mast, the MBNL panels would get moved to the top (where the Orange panels are) and also go EE 2G/3G/4G + 3 3G/4G. That would ensure optimal coverage, but unlikely?
I don't know what will happen - if anyone can help shed light on the matter, it'd be greatly appreciated!
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“Nope, dont even have a login on the EE Community forums. Will have to make one though one day.”
“Nope, dont even have a login on the EE Community forums. Will have to make one though one day.”
No time like the present - I believe they hand out a new VoLTE-enabled iPhone 6S to all new contributors when they submit their 1,000th post...
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“I've heard that as well, though I've also heard that there are some sites that have gone 2G/4G only (i.e. no 3G). Doing 2G/4G isn't really something I'd recommend for areas with no 3G at all, especially whilst I'm still having to try and juggle the S4's not-so-smart network switching modes.
That's the one! I tested it on the return journey from Lowestoft, and it did indeed show up as 4G, so that mast is definitely 2G/4G at the moment. I don't see a real reason why - it now has triple (or at least dual) input panels, so 2100 can easily be combined into the 1800 feed. One of the inputs on that mast has to be 800 as well, due to the topography and trees! (CTIL have 900 3G along there, I think, and according to the coverage maps, it seems to be better at raw coverage.) Perhaps it might be due to permission issues and installing cabinets in such a forest area?
I found out last year (and the year before) about how hard that area was to cover; there have been some substantial improvements to 3G coverage since this time last year, and 4G seems to be good as well (though I didn't test it fully). I think I sent you a PM about it sometime before, and that you said it would get better, which it has done.
Thank you, it'd be appreciated, as that is quite a large blackspot for 3G on the EE network, and there are still quite a lot of people who have 3G phones at the present time.
I've heard from other people on here that 4G will soon be the base layer, with an eventual switch off of 2G and 3G (3G going first?). Hopefully by the time 3G disappears, I'll have got a VoLTE phone as my main handset
Hahaha
Certainly in my experience, 3G has (so far) been the best for reliability of streaming media. 4G hasn't been fully rolled out yet, and 2G won't work for streaming.
I looked on EE's coverage map a while back and not even 2G reaches into that bank of trees! Assuming that the other networks won't manage either, due to such trees. Would be an ideal location for an MIP mast.”
“I've heard that as well, though I've also heard that there are some sites that have gone 2G/4G only (i.e. no 3G). Doing 2G/4G isn't really something I'd recommend for areas with no 3G at all, especially whilst I'm still having to try and juggle the S4's not-so-smart network switching modes.
That's the one! I tested it on the return journey from Lowestoft, and it did indeed show up as 4G, so that mast is definitely 2G/4G at the moment. I don't see a real reason why - it now has triple (or at least dual) input panels, so 2100 can easily be combined into the 1800 feed. One of the inputs on that mast has to be 800 as well, due to the topography and trees! (CTIL have 900 3G along there, I think, and according to the coverage maps, it seems to be better at raw coverage.) Perhaps it might be due to permission issues and installing cabinets in such a forest area?
I found out last year (and the year before) about how hard that area was to cover; there have been some substantial improvements to 3G coverage since this time last year, and 4G seems to be good as well (though I didn't test it fully). I think I sent you a PM about it sometime before, and that you said it would get better, which it has done.
Thank you, it'd be appreciated, as that is quite a large blackspot for 3G on the EE network, and there are still quite a lot of people who have 3G phones at the present time.
I've heard from other people on here that 4G will soon be the base layer, with an eventual switch off of 2G and 3G (3G going first?). Hopefully by the time 3G disappears, I'll have got a VoLTE phone as my main handset
Hahaha
Certainly in my experience, 3G has (so far) been the best for reliability of streaming media. 4G hasn't been fully rolled out yet, and 2G won't work for streaming.
I looked on EE's coverage map a while back and not even 2G reaches into that bank of trees! Assuming that the other networks won't manage either, due to such trees. Would be an ideal location for an MIP mast.”
You should send your recommendations directly to the networks. I do. It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference as they think they know better. We all know that 3G is the future. Like Soylent Green.
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“Here's the Thetford Conundrum...
I've noticed that parts of Thetford, namely the area near the A11/A134 roundabout still ahve weak 3G signal... and I can explain what I know, but would like some assistance as to what may or may not happen.
First mast, closest to the A11. Would provide optimal coverage along the A11 and the west/south of Thetford.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...653!4d0.685507
Has Vodafone 2G/3G (possibly 4G as well now), O2 2G/3G (possibly 4G now) and T-Mobile 2G only. Could possibly be providing EE 2G coverage, though don't know as I don't use 2G.
Second mast, to the East, near the TV relay:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.42...7i13312!8i6656
Orange 2G at the top - possibly decommissioned, possibly still in use? Again don't know as don't use 2G
Three and EE 3G at the bottom (via MBNL). Does the 3G for the area. Signal very weak in some parts, due to low antenna height and distance from the other mobile comms mast (nearer the A11).
What is the plan in regards to 3G/4G at these masts? Will the T-Mob 2G mast gain 4G and 3G? Or will the MBNL 3G mast get 4G as well? If the 2nd mast gets 4G, will the new panels be used at the same height as the Orange panels, in order to gain 3G.4G coverage?
In an ideal world, the T-Mob 2G panels (on the 1st mast) would go EE 2G/3G/4G + Three 3G/4G; on the 2nd mast, the MBNL panels would get moved to the top (where the Orange panels are) and also go EE 2G/3G/4G + 3 3G/4G. That would ensure optimal coverage, but unlikely?
I don't know what will happen - if anyone can help shed light on the matter, it'd be greatly appreciated!”
“Here's the Thetford Conundrum...
I've noticed that parts of Thetford, namely the area near the A11/A134 roundabout still ahve weak 3G signal... and I can explain what I know, but would like some assistance as to what may or may not happen.
First mast, closest to the A11. Would provide optimal coverage along the A11 and the west/south of Thetford.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...653!4d0.685507
Has Vodafone 2G/3G (possibly 4G as well now), O2 2G/3G (possibly 4G now) and T-Mobile 2G only. Could possibly be providing EE 2G coverage, though don't know as I don't use 2G.
Second mast, to the East, near the TV relay:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.42...7i13312!8i6656
Orange 2G at the top - possibly decommissioned, possibly still in use? Again don't know as don't use 2G
Three and EE 3G at the bottom (via MBNL). Does the 3G for the area. Signal very weak in some parts, due to low antenna height and distance from the other mobile comms mast (nearer the A11).
What is the plan in regards to 3G/4G at these masts? Will the T-Mob 2G mast gain 4G and 3G? Or will the MBNL 3G mast get 4G as well? If the 2nd mast gets 4G, will the new panels be used at the same height as the Orange panels, in order to gain 3G.4G coverage?
In an ideal world, the T-Mob 2G panels (on the 1st mast) would go EE 2G/3G/4G + Three 3G/4G; on the 2nd mast, the MBNL panels would get moved to the top (where the Orange panels are) and also go EE 2G/3G/4G + 3 3G/4G. That would ensure optimal coverage, but unlikely?
I don't know what will happen - if anyone can help shed light on the matter, it'd be greatly appreciated!”
Think I can shed some light on the masts themselves and the problem as a whole.
Mast 1) I think that that mast is going to get either China Unicom or China Telecom 4G on TDD LTE spectrum, coupled with Nextel iDEN technology.
Mast 2) For this one Vodafone Albania are coming in and doing this one with 5G I think (press statement here 5G Press Statement ) coupled with NMT on 450MHz.
The whole situation is being managed by A1, the Austrian network who issued the following statement:
Quote:
“Wir verstehen, dass die Mobilfunknetzqualität in der Nähe von Thetford Scheiße ist. Wir haben deshalb die Entscheidung getroffen, dass wir einfach nicht die Hände in den Schoß legen können. Wir werden die Lage anführen und versuchen, 5G überall abzudecken, um Zellatmung zu vermeiden. Wir wissen, dass es unseren Kunden am wichtigsten ist, dass sie einfach TuneIn unterwegs streamen können. ”
“Wir verstehen, dass die Mobilfunknetzqualität in der Nähe von Thetford Scheiße ist. Wir haben deshalb die Entscheidung getroffen, dass wir einfach nicht die Hände in den Schoß legen können. Wir werden die Lage anführen und versuchen, 5G überall abzudecken, um Zellatmung zu vermeiden. Wir wissen, dass es unseren Kunden am wichtigsten ist, dass sie einfach TuneIn unterwegs streamen können. ”
But in all seriousness efforts are being made to solve every issue. All masts hopefully will see 4G within the next 12 months. It sounds also as though your phone is slightly dodgy so you may want to consider changing radio software for your phone (check XDA to see if there any recommended ones that improve general reception quality).
Beans-
First mast-
VF-G09, G18. U21
O2-UG09, G18
EE-G18 (sitefinder+cov maps+panels)
It may well be upgraded at some point to EE 4G.
Mast 2.
Anything's possible. Dual high band Kathreins on lower stack
First mast-
VF-G09, G18. U21
O2-UG09, G18
EE-G18 (sitefinder+cov maps+panels)
It may well be upgraded at some point to EE 4G.
Mast 2.
Anything's possible. Dual high band Kathreins on lower stack
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“Beans-
First mast-
VF-G09, G18. U21
O2-UG09, G18
EE-G18 (sitefinder+cov maps+panels)
It may well be upgraded at some point to EE 4G.
Mast 2.
Anything's possible. Dual high band Kathreins on lower stack”
“Beans-
First mast-
VF-G09, G18. U21
O2-UG09, G18
EE-G18 (sitefinder+cov maps+panels)
It may well be upgraded at some point to EE 4G.
Mast 2.
Anything's possible. Dual high band Kathreins on lower stack”
Thanks for the confirmation Pedro. It's quite strange that Vodafone are using u2100 only, whereas O2 are using u900 only. Maybe, when that mast gets CTIL treatment, it will go U2100+U900 for both operators?
Mast 2 is listed as Orange and Three on Sitefinder. I know that's where the EE/3 3G comes from (via the dual bands), as the signal is far too weak on the A11 for it to be coming from the G1800 panels on Mast 1.
As for the Orange panels, who knows.... they might not even be switched on, but seeing as though that area is difficult to cover, I wouldn't be at all surprised if both masts are still operational, and both get G1800 and L1800, hopefully U2100 as well.
I'm having a really strange issue which i've never seen before. I have a Nexus 5X, and when 4G is switched on the quality of calls is terrible, which is odd as I know it drops back to 3G for calls. However If I change to 3G only mode, the call quality is fine.
Sometimes i'm also missing calls as the phone/network doesn't always drop back to 3G, so the caller just gets voicemail instead. I've also tested calling the phone from my landline and watched it stay on 4G whilst the call was diverted to voicemail.
I don't think it's down to the Nexus 5X, as this is only happening at home (or the nearby area), and I've also tried my old Nexus 5 which is behaving the same way. This suggests it might be a problem with the local mast and something to do with the 4G/3G switching?
Has anyone experienced this before?
Sometimes i'm also missing calls as the phone/network doesn't always drop back to 3G, so the caller just gets voicemail instead. I've also tested calling the phone from my landline and watched it stay on 4G whilst the call was diverted to voicemail.
I don't think it's down to the Nexus 5X, as this is only happening at home (or the nearby area), and I've also tried my old Nexus 5 which is behaving the same way. This suggests it might be a problem with the local mast and something to do with the 4G/3G switching?
Has anyone experienced this before?
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“Here's the Thetford Conundrum...
I've noticed that parts of Thetford, namely the area near the A11/A134 roundabout still ahve weak 3G signal... and I can explain what I know, but would like some assistance as to what may or may not happen.
First mast, closest to the A11. Would provide optimal coverage along the A11 and the west/south of Thetford.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...653!4d0.685507
Has Vodafone 2G/3G (possibly 4G as well now), O2 2G/3G (possibly 4G now) and T-Mobile 2G only. Could possibly be providing EE 2G coverage, though don't know as I don't use 2G.
Second mast, to the East, near the TV relay:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.42...7i13312!8i6656
Orange 2G at the top - possibly decommissioned, possibly still in use? Again don't know as don't use 2G
Three and EE 3G at the bottom (via MBNL). Does the 3G for the area. Signal very weak in some parts, due to low antenna height and distance from the other mobile comms mast (nearer the A11).
What is the plan in regards to 3G/4G at these masts? Will the T-Mob 2G mast gain 4G and 3G? Or will the MBNL 3G mast get 4G as well? If the 2nd mast gets 4G, will the new panels be used at the same height as the Orange panels, in order to gain 3G.4G coverage?
In an ideal world, the T-Mob 2G panels (on the 1st mast) would go EE 2G/3G/4G + Three 3G/4G; on the 2nd mast, the MBNL panels would get moved to the top (where the Orange panels are) and also go EE 2G/3G/4G + 3 3G/4G. That would ensure optimal coverage, but unlikely?
I don't know what will happen - if anyone can help shed light on the matter, it'd be greatly appreciated!”
“Here's the Thetford Conundrum...
I've noticed that parts of Thetford, namely the area near the A11/A134 roundabout still ahve weak 3G signal... and I can explain what I know, but would like some assistance as to what may or may not happen.
First mast, closest to the A11. Would provide optimal coverage along the A11 and the west/south of Thetford.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...653!4d0.685507
Has Vodafone 2G/3G (possibly 4G as well now), O2 2G/3G (possibly 4G now) and T-Mobile 2G only. Could possibly be providing EE 2G coverage, though don't know as I don't use 2G.
Second mast, to the East, near the TV relay:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.42...7i13312!8i6656
Orange 2G at the top - possibly decommissioned, possibly still in use? Again don't know as don't use 2G
Three and EE 3G at the bottom (via MBNL). Does the 3G for the area. Signal very weak in some parts, due to low antenna height and distance from the other mobile comms mast (nearer the A11).
What is the plan in regards to 3G/4G at these masts? Will the T-Mob 2G mast gain 4G and 3G? Or will the MBNL 3G mast get 4G as well? If the 2nd mast gets 4G, will the new panels be used at the same height as the Orange panels, in order to gain 3G.4G coverage?
In an ideal world, the T-Mob 2G panels (on the 1st mast) would go EE 2G/3G/4G + Three 3G/4G; on the 2nd mast, the MBNL panels would get moved to the top (where the Orange panels are) and also go EE 2G/3G/4G + 3 3G/4G. That would ensure optimal coverage, but unlikely?
I don't know what will happen - if anyone can help shed light on the matter, it'd be greatly appreciated!”
Agreed it is a VERY odd set-up of these masts - Why have T-Mobile 2G still active on another neighbour mast when an MBNL mast is ACTIVE with 2G, 3G & 4G. Also with the MBNL mast Orange 2G (network code) it's still alive and kicking and this practically does cover the whole town more or less due to its height.... why oh why didn't they move the MBNL antennas up to the top of the SAME mast where the Orange 2G antennas are??
MADNESS
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“Agreed it is a VERY odd set-up of these masts - Why have T-Mobile 2G still active on another neighbour mast when an MBNL mast is ACTIVE with 2G, 3G & 4G. Also with the MBNL mast Orange 2G (network code) it's still alive and kicking and this practically does cover the whole town more or less due to its height.... why oh why didn't they move the MBNL antennas up to the top of the SAME mast where the Orange 2G antennas are?? MADNESS”
“Agreed it is a VERY odd set-up of these masts - Why have T-Mobile 2G still active on another neighbour mast when an MBNL mast is ACTIVE with 2G, 3G & 4G. Also with the MBNL mast Orange 2G (network code) it's still alive and kicking and this practically does cover the whole town more or less due to its height.... why oh why didn't they move the MBNL antennas up to the top of the SAME mast where the Orange 2G antennas are??
MADNESS”
Well, from what I know, the Orange code will effectively disappear once all of the upgrades have taken place, so anything that is still broadcasting Orange code is likely to be upgraded.
They might move MBNL 2G/3G/4G up to the Orange panels, in order to give better coverage, as I know that (when I last checked) Orange 2G was present and very strong, though that was over a year ago and on a different phone.
I'm guessing the T-Mobile 2G will eventually either be decommissioned or upgraded to 2G/3G/4G. As that T-Mob mast is very good, in terms of location, to put 3G and 4G on, for the A11.
The Orange panels would be good to have 2G/3G/4G on because of the height advantage, so you're going to get better coverage.
And I still don't get why what has happened, happened on that monument mast on the A11... Very strange!
I'm hoping that some on what I'm saying will actually happen... maybe something for Bookey to shed some light on?
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“And I still don't get why what has happened, happened on that monument mast on the A11... Very strange!”
“And I still don't get why what has happened, happened on that monument mast on the A11... Very strange!”
This is the photo I took today of the 2G & 4G Only Mast near the monument
http://s32.postimg.org/sgxxskp9x/A11..._Only_Mast.png
Not a Whiff of 3G coverage here so 3 customers drop to Emergency Calls Only.
As for the Barton Mills "Lollipop" Roundabout mast, this is the latest installation from MBNL featuring EE's 2G/3G/4G aswell as 3's 3G/4G too. 86Mbps on 3 4G & 122Mbps from EE on this mast: http://s32.postimg.org/ostf7uewl/Bar...3_4_G_Mast.jpg
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“This is the photo I took today of the 2G & 4G Only Mast near the monument
http://s32.postimg.org/sgxxskp9x/A11..._Only_Mast.png
Not a Whiff of 3G coverage here so 3 customers drop to Emergency Calls Only.”
“This is the photo I took today of the 2G & 4G Only Mast near the monument
http://s32.postimg.org/sgxxskp9x/A11..._Only_Mast.png
Not a Whiff of 3G coverage here so 3 customers drop to Emergency Calls Only.”
Does this mean the 4G coverage footprint is very similar to the 2G footprint in this location then?
Originally Posted by packages:
“Does this mean the 4G coverage footprint is very similar to the 2G footprint in this location then?”
“Does this mean the 4G coverage footprint is very similar to the 2G footprint in this location then?”
Nope, 2G and 4G power levels still separate. EE is the only provider strong enough in this specific section of the road.
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“This is the photo I took today of the 2G & 4G Only Mast near the monument
http://s32.postimg.org/sgxxskp9x/A11..._Only_Mast.png
Not a Whiff of 3G coverage here so 3 customers drop to Emergency Calls Only.
As for the Barton Mills "Lollipop" Roundabout mast, this is the latest installation from MBNL featuring EE's 2G/3G/4G aswell as 3's 3G/4G too. 86Mbps on 3 4G & 122Mbps from EE on this mast: http://s32.postimg.org/ostf7uewl/Bar...3_4_G_Mast.jpg”
“This is the photo I took today of the 2G & 4G Only Mast near the monument
http://s32.postimg.org/sgxxskp9x/A11..._Only_Mast.png
Not a Whiff of 3G coverage here so 3 customers drop to Emergency Calls Only.
As for the Barton Mills "Lollipop" Roundabout mast, this is the latest installation from MBNL featuring EE's 2G/3G/4G aswell as 3's 3G/4G too. 86Mbps on 3 4G & 122Mbps from EE on this mast: http://s32.postimg.org/ostf7uewl/Bar...3_4_G_Mast.jpg”
That's that weird monument mast! On my outbound journey, I left it on my "data reliability mode" (3G only), and got no service for quite a long period of time. On the return journey, I stuck it on 4G mode and discovered that it was indeed 2G/4G (after my initial question on here).
I saw the lollipop mast, thought it was EE 2G/3G/4G but couldn't confirm 3 4G. Not bad speeds at all (for your speeds), though I didn't test my speeds.
I have to use 3G only mode for the time being, until all masts have got 4G on them. 4G is still rather weak in many areas, and the wacky S4 of mine drops to 2G unnecessarily; for example, on the road from Higham Ferrers' Lidl's store to the main high street in Higham Ferrers, it went from 4G (which comes from the Rushden Water Tower, I believe) to 2G GPRS, then 2G EDGE, then 2G GPRS again, before finally settling on 3G, from the main Higham Ferrers mast, when the signal reached 3 bars (32%). Tunein Radio, and various other music apps, won't work on 2G (of any type), and Youtube certainly work work on 2G, hence the requirement for 3G and 4G. But on the S4, there is no mode to combine 3G and 4G. It's either 3G only, 4G only, or 2G/3G/4G (2G and 4G preferred?). The former option will not pick up any signal from weird 2G/4G masts, like the monument mast. 4G only will not work on non-4G masts, and the 4G rollout is still not complete (plus, 4G only mode won't do voice on the S4). And the default mode switches to 2G unnecessarily - hence my requirement for 3G/4G.
Where should I go in order to get the best advice for obtaining a 3G/4G mode on my S4? Does anyone here know anything? Android Central? XDA Developers? Or elsewhere?
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“Nope, 2G and 4G power levels still separate. EE is the only provider strong enough in this specific section of the road.”
“Nope, 2G and 4G power levels still separate. EE is the only provider strong enough in this specific section of the road.”
I can see why, because in that sort of terrain, number of masts and mast locations is crucial, more crucial than frequency - so chances are, CTIL 3G900/4G800 won't be as good, due to too few masts.
Do you know how long the monument mast has been like it (2G/4G)? Maybe MBNL haven't got round to upgrading? Maybe it is to do with planning permissions?
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“I can see why, because in that sort of terrain, number of masts and mast locations is crucial, more crucial than frequency - so chances are, CTIL 3G900/4G800 won't be as good, due to too few masts.
Do you know how long the monument mast has been like it (2G/4G)? Maybe MBNL haven't got round to upgrading? Maybe it is to do with planning permissions?”
“I can see why, because in that sort of terrain, number of masts and mast locations is crucial, more crucial than frequency - so chances are, CTIL 3G900/4G800 won't be as good, due to too few masts.
Do you know how long the monument mast has been like it (2G/4G)? Maybe MBNL haven't got round to upgrading? Maybe it is to do with planning permissions?”
Was 2G only last August (2015). A very recent upgrade. With 4G on full power EE should be brilliant along that stretch with masts at Barton Mills, ex Orange one near the B1112, monument mast, Centre Parcs mast, Elveden village, A11 bypass junction and Thetford Sainsburys area.
2 ex Orange 2G only sites near Oakham were 2G/4G only for a good few months until 3G arrived.
Strange these old Orange masts are still live in places despite there being adequate MBNL 3G/4G Service.
Great Yarmouth is a good example where there are a few Old Orange masts that are still on 3G despite there being very good 3G & 4G Coverage now. 3 customers can also use 2G fall-back on the majority of these legacy masts, again despite there being perfect MBNL coverage.
Great Yarmouth is a good example where there are a few Old Orange masts that are still on 3G despite there being very good 3G & 4G Coverage now. 3 customers can also use 2G fall-back on the majority of these legacy masts, again despite there being perfect MBNL coverage.
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“Strange these old Orange masts are still live in places despite there being adequate MBNL 3G/4G Service.
Great Yarmouth is a good example where there are a few Old Orange masts that are still on 3G despite there being very good 3G & 4G Coverage now. 3 customers can also use 2G fall-back on the majority of these legacy masts, again despite there being perfect MBNL coverage.”
“Strange these old Orange masts are still live in places despite there being adequate MBNL 3G/4G Service.
Great Yarmouth is a good example where there are a few Old Orange masts that are still on 3G despite there being very good 3G & 4G Coverage now. 3 customers can also use 2G fall-back on the majority of these legacy masts, again despite there being perfect MBNL coverage.”
Tell me about it. There is a mast in Colchester that has all technologies and I mean all. EE 4G 1800 and 2600. 3 800mhz so possibly EE 4G 800 in the future yet there is still ex orange 2G/3G chugging away.
This was also the case on another mast in Colchester. Had been 4G'd for a good couple of years and still had ex orange 2G/3G and then one day I noticed both sets of Orange antennas had been removed. The next day the old EE/MBNL antennas has been moved higher up where the old Orange ones used to sit so maybe they are planning to do the same as this and maybe in more locations where Orange had preferred mast priority/height.
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“Where should I go in order to get the best advice for obtaining a 3G/4G mode on my S4? Does anyone here know anything? Android Central? XDA Developers? Or elsewhere?”
“Where should I go in order to get the best advice for obtaining a 3G/4G mode on my S4? Does anyone here know anything? Android Central? XDA Developers? Or elsewhere?”
store.apple.com/uk
Hmm... 4G seeming stronger indoors than usual and LTE Discovery says band "unknown". 800? Any way to tell? Normally says band 3. It could just be the 6P of course.
No VoLTE. But the signal indicator dropped a bit when the call switched to GPRS.
No VoLTE. But the signal indicator dropped a bit when the call switched to GPRS.
3G strength -105dbm
4G -97dbm
2G -101dbm (EDGE)
When forcing the different network modes sat in the same place
Probably nothing - edge just went up to -97 as well
4G -97dbm
2G -101dbm (EDGE)
When forcing the different network modes sat in the same place
Probably nothing - edge just went up to -97 as well
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