|
||||||||
EE 2G/3G/4G Discussion Thread (Part 2) |
![]() |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#1451 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rutland
Posts: 561
|
Quote:
I know that there is 2 of those near me, in my area, and they both seem to have been decommissioned (I set my phone to 2G only, to test them, and they did not appear). Wonder if EE will reenable either of them as one of them would give fill in coverage for the village of Chelveston quite nicely, and the other one would probably give better 3G/4G to Elton, Cambs (if upgraded, obviously, as this was 2G only).
Elton mast: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.52...8i6656!6m1!1e1 Chelveston mast: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.31...7i13312!8i6656 Coverage in Chelveston isn't brilliant, due to the terrain (Chelveston is in a dip) and the fact that the nearest mast is the main Higham Ferrers mast, now that said Orange telegraph pole is decommissioned. Elton is covered by a tall MBNL 2G/3G mast (on the main A605 road), however, 3G is poor in that village - possibly due to trees or antenna placement on the mast. The current MBNL mast is also micro fed, which isn't good because it barely got 2Mbps the last time I tested it. Upgrading the Orange Telegraph pole may well improve things in Elton itself, but the MBNL mast also needs upgrading to better backhaul and 4G. Maybe this will be recommissioned with a modern monopole providing 2G/4G, perhaps the existing telegraph pole sites are not suitable for upgrading? |
|
|
|
|
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
|
|
|
#1452 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: This forum
Posts: 3,388
|
Quote:
What I was wondering, was if there were any plans to switch on any decommissioned masts in areas that coverage isn't great (and said Orange masts would fill in a coverage gap).
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1453 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rutland
Posts: 561
|
RE Chelveston: Virgin Mobile coverage map shows more colour gradations than EE for signal strength, 2G coverage at that mast point shows a ring of "Excellent" coverage so I don't think its a permanent switch off.
It could be faulty or off for technical reasons (to link in with the MBNL site on the A6 roundabout) to be recommissioned at a later date. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1454 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 932
|
Quote:
RE Chelveston: Virgin Mobile coverage map shows more colour gradations than EE for signal strength, 2G coverage at that mast point shows a ring of "Excellent" coverage so I don't think its a permanent switch off.
It could be faulty or off for technical reasons (to link in with the MBNL site on the A6 roundabout) to be recommissioned at a later date. Interesting that Virgin have their own coverage map, and that the color graduations are different - I have always used the EE map, even when I used to be on Virgin (as the EE map shows 4G as well). Quote:
I suspect that would be confidential information - but its possible another mast nearby needs to be upgraded (new transmitters, new antenna panels) and that could cover the hole - if not then they could reactivate. I suspect its very unlikely.
Quote:
Yes, the Elton one has been off for sometime.
Maybe this will be recommissioned with a modern monopole providing 2G/4G, perhaps the existing telegraph pole sites are not suitable for upgrading? |
|
|
|
|
|
#1455 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 1,259
|
Near me, just to the west of Haddenham is an old Orange 2G mast...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.36...2!8i6656?hl=en I have no idea if it's still in use since my phone clings on to a 3G signal from a more distant mast, but it's got a few microwave dishes on it from what i've fleetingly seen on my journeys past it. An upgrade to EE 4G wouldn't go amiss, it has a great view over a huge area from that spot. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1456 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Totnes, Devon
Posts: 6,693
|
Quote:
Oh no!!!!
And anyway, VoLTE hasn't been released on all sites yet, so what's going to take the calls, at a half decent quality? Furthermore, getting VoLTE outside of specific carrier locked devices and iPhones is quite difficult at the moment, anyway.... Maybe in a few years time, 2G/4G will be fine, due to VoLTE, device support, and the fact that the only devices ever needing 2G will be either non-Volte devices (which will be very few) or non 4G devices (again, very few). But not now... people expect both 3G and 4G to be available! Or it might be that Three either haven't been offered said mast, or haven't been bothered to invest in it. If it's the former... then EE is being greedy and I can see why Three opened that lawsuit a few days ago. If it's the latter, then Three need to invest more! Also, I know that 3G gets installed either before or after the installation of 4G, but do both parties have to be interested in 3G, for a mast to get 3G, or does just one networks' interest mean that both networks get 3G? Please help me with this bit... As far as what I sad about the end of 3G I meant the very early stages. It won't be turned off for ages yet. It will have some of it's spectrum pinched for 4G eventually leaving just enough for it to function. Same for 2G as well. i can see them both being left with just 5Mhz each at some point. Either party can instruct MBNL to install 3G. The other party can then also use it. I think that's how it works. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1457 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Totnes, Devon
Posts: 6,693
|
Quote:
That's what I know as well; any Orange sites that are still switched on will be eventually brought into the 23430 code for EE, and 23433 will be phased out.
What I was wondering, was if there were any plans to switch on any decommissioned masts in areas that coverage isn't great (and said Orange masts would fill in a coverage gap). |
|
|
|
|
|
#1458 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Totnes, Devon
Posts: 6,693
|
Quote:
Near me, just to the west of Haddenham is an old Orange 2G mast...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.36...2!8i6656?hl=en I have no idea if it's still in use since my phone clings on to a 3G signal from a more distant mast, but it's got a few microwave dishes on it from what i've fleetingly seen on my journeys past it. An upgrade to EE 4G wouldn't go amiss, it has a great view over a huge area from that spot. Then quickly whip it out and you should briefly have a full EDGE or GPRS signal. Orange mast on! We have one here near Dartmouth and it's the only way I can check it's on with my iPhone. I don't get out much.....
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1459 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 1,259
|
Hey, if it wasn't for us geeky anoraky types, who would everyone else go to to get their gadgets working?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1460 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 787
|
I usually just do a network search and pick the "other" EE...
(If there's only one EE, the mast is off.) |
|
|
|
|
|
#1461 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Totnes, Devon
Posts: 6,693
|
Quote:
I usually just do a network search and pick the "other" EE...
(If there's only one EE, the mast is off.) |
|
|
|
|
|
#1462 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: a land filled with trolls
Posts: 12,014
|
Quote:
That works too but I like to see the "bars" man!!!!! hahahahahaha
Just ain't the same. |
|
|
|
|
#1463 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: This forum
Posts: 3,388
|
Quote:
(If there's only one EE, the mast is off.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1464 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 787
|
Quote:
That works too but I like to see the "bars" man!!!!! hahahahahaha
(I use the phono app which puts an icon in the status bar which shows you whether you are on the Orange code or the EE/tmo one) Edit: my S7 will only sit on the Orange code for a few seconds... Odd. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1465 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Rutland
Posts: 561
|
Quote:
Near me, just to the west of Haddenham is an old Orange 2G mast...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.36...2!8i6656?hl=en I have no idea if it's still in use since my phone clings on to a 3G signal from a more distant mast, but it's got a few microwave dishes on it from what i've fleetingly seen on my journeys past it. An upgrade to EE 4G wouldn't go amiss, it has a great view over a huge area from that spot.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1466 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bromsgrove
Posts: 395
|
Quote:
When you select the "other" ee the phone should switch to it and display the bars accordingly. Mine certainly does, I have an Orange 3G mast in the garden which my phone totally ignores otherwise. Hehe.
(I use the phono app which puts an icon in the status bar which shows you whether you are on the Orange code or the EE/tmo one) Edit: my S7 will only sit on the Orange code for a few seconds... Odd.
|
|
|
|
|
#1467 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 660
|
A little look at the rarely seen Temporary Mobile Masts.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1468 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Midlands
Posts: 502
|
Quote:
A little look at the rarely seen Temporary Mobile Masts.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1469 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: This forum
Posts: 3,388
|
Quote:
That works too but I like to see the "bars" man!!!!! hahahahahaha
Hunt Google for the ads on freeways in USA.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1470 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Midlands
Posts: 502
|
Been having some 4G issues lately, phone keeps dropping down to 3G all the time, was happening on my old phone and my new G5. Checked the service status online and nothing so I gave EE a buzz. Turns out they have a mast off for upgrade work. Hopefully not for too long!
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1471 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Cheshire/Shropshire Border
Posts: 589
|
Quote:
Turns out they have a mast off for upgrade work. Hopefully not for too long!
|
|
|
|
|
#1472 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 787
|
Quote:
the phono app is very usefull and have spent many a hour with the developer
![]() Also what is with Samsung's obsession with showing signal bars for "emergency calls only"? |
|
|
|
|
|
#1473 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Midlands
Posts: 502
|
Quote:
It seems like they may be accelerating again after a bit of a lull. Whereabouts are you in the Midlands?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1474 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Cheshire/Shropshire Border
Posts: 589
|
Quote:
South Derbyshire. We had EE4G from launch, from one mast, as it goes. Off the back of covering Derby, one of the launch cities. It's interesting given that, that the VO2 Rollout has yet to reach us!
I'm never quite sure where the commercial sensitivity lies when it comes to sharing rollout plans. Is it the competitive advantage of being the first to 'appear' in an area that drives this, or something else? I would have thought that might be counter productive if consumers are committing to contracts with other networks and totally unaware that a competitor plans to launch 4G the next month. Why are the networks generally so secretive about their plans? There must be a good reason, but I can't pin it down at the moment. |
|
|
|
|
#1475 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 1,259
|
Probably something to do with doing the easiest masts first. Easiest ones to get to.
|
|
|
|
![]() |
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 12:50.




