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EE 2G/3G/4G Discussion Thread (Part 2)
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studioscot57
08-08-2016
What a world we are living in, back of beyond in sunny south-west Scotland, and today after all these years on just 2G, I am now getting 32MB/s down and 7MB/s up from a 4G service (1800MHz) inside my house on my iPhone!

Copper broadband is still pants though...

Bravo EE!
Gigabit
08-08-2016
32MB/s?
studioscot57
08-08-2016
Mbps?
Synthetic42
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“32MB/s?”

I suspect he means Mbps, not MB/s as that would be insane
Gigabit
08-08-2016
New 4G world record?
studioscot57
08-08-2016
Your cup runneth over because you've suddenly got a fast connection,
you hastily put a message on a forum with a wee mistake because you're a 'layman' and..
opprobrium desendeth upon yer heid.

By all means enjoy yourselves chaps.
studioscot57
08-08-2016
Descendeth
mea culpa
David_bl1
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by studioscot57:
“What a world we are living in, back of beyond in sunny south-west Scotland, and today after all these years on just 2G, I am now getting 32MB/s down and 7MB/s up from a 4G service (1800MHz) inside my house on my iPhone!”

Congratulations! It's certainly a good feeling... Can you share which mast or the area? The EE coverage map hasn't been updated for ages, and I'm curious to know whether much has been happening in the more rural areas of Scotland.
packages
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“Congratulations! It's certainly a good feeling... Can you share which mast or the area? The EE coverage map hasn't been updated for ages, and I'm curious to know whether much has been happening in the more rural areas of Scotland.”

8th July so wasn't that long ago
studioscot57
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“Congratulations! It's certainly a good feeling... Can you share which mast or the area? The EE coverage map hasn't been updated for ages, and I'm curious to know whether much has been happening in the more rural areas of Scotland.”

Mast is an O2 site share at Gatehouse-of-Fleet in Dumfries & Galloway. Looks like EE is 'filling in' the A75 corridor to Stranraer. Still not showing 4G on coverage map at my post code. Surrounding area west has had 4G signal from main transmitter on Cambret Hill in the last year.
ozz
08-08-2016
Sadly not so impressive around the Horning area of the Norfolk Broads, no service for much of the day
DaveProudlock
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“I'm curious to know whether much has been happening in the more rural areas of Scotland.”

Not a lot. The 4G Upgrades are painfully slow here in Scotland.
DaveProudlock
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by studioscot57:
“Mast is an O2 site share at Gatehouse-of-Fleet in Dumfries & Galloway. Looks like EE is 'filling in' the A75 corridor to Stranraer. Still not showing 4G on coverage map at my post code. Surrounding area west has had 4G signal from main transmitter on Cambret Hill in the last year.”

Interestingly EE have applied for planning permission for quite a few new masts to be built in this area. Must be filling in a few black spots.
superleeds27
08-08-2016
Visited Skipsea on the east coast at the weekend. My God.

Was like going back in time. Struggled to get a 2G connection, couldn't send whatsapp messages, struggled with calls.

What was funny is at the cliff edge, I managed to pick up two bars of 4G, 20 yards down the road, nothing.
matty1000kk
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by DaveProudlock:
“Interestingly EE have applied for planning permission for quite a few new masts to be built in this area. Must be filling in a few black spots.”

Some really interesting planning applications there. Satellite backhaul, generators, battery backup, 800mhz 4G only. I guess EE really are serious about the emergency services network.
DevonBloke
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by studioscot57:
“What a world we are living in, back of beyond in sunny south-west Scotland, and today after all these years on just 2G, I am now getting 32MB/s down and 7MB/s up from a 4G service (1800MHz) inside my house on my iPhone!

Copper broadband is still pants though...

Bravo EE!”

Congratulations. Excellent. It must be a right bugger to get decent backhaul up there in places.
Any sign of 800?
ozz
08-08-2016
Originally Posted by ozz:
“Sadly not so impressive around the Horning area of the Norfolk Broads, no service for much of the day ”

Hmm, O2/Voda live from a nearby MIP mast at RAF Neatishead. Hopefully EE will follow soon and fill this not spot.
CheshireBumpkin
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by studioscot57:
“What a world we are living in, back of beyond in sunny south-west Scotland, and today after all these years on just 2G, I am now getting 32MB/s down and 7MB/s up from a 4G service (1800MHz) inside my house on my iPhone!

Copper broadband is still pants though...

Bravo EE!”

Yay! Congratulations! Every now and again, EE remember we bumpkins exist and throw us a crumb...
M60
09-08-2016
Quick question for those with VoLTE enabled handsets. Does VoLTE calls handoff to 3G and vice versa. Also, will a call originating on 3G handoff to 4G or is it as at present with 3G where a call handing off to 2G stays on 2G for the remainder irrespective of whether 3G is available from the BTS the phone is using.

Not been able to try this on my wife's iPhone 6S and my HTC M9 doesn't yet support it (hopefully not too long) but curious to know. Handing off to VoLTE from WI-Fi calling and back on the iPhone is pretty cool and works well.
packages
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by M60:
“Quick question for those with VoLTE enabled handsets. Does VoLTE calls handoff to 3G and vice versa. Also, will a call originating on 3G handoff to 4G or is it as at present with 3G where a call handing off to 2G stays on 2G for the remainder irrespective of whether 3G is available from the BTS the phone is using.

Not been able to try this on my wife's iPhone 6S and my HTC M9 doesn't yet support it (hopefully not too long) but curious to know. Handing off to VoLTE from WI-Fi calling and back on the iPhone is pretty cool and works well.”

4G to 3G yes
3G to 4G no
jchamier
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“4G to 3G yes
3G to 4G no”

same with data - you can go down the technologies in a call, but to go back up in technologies the phone has to be idle.
DevonBloke
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by M60:
“Quick question for those with VoLTE enabled handsets. Does VoLTE calls handoff to 3G and vice versa. Also, will a call originating on 3G handoff to 4G or is it as at present with 3G where a call handing off to 2G stays on 2G for the remainder irrespective of whether 3G is available from the BTS the phone is using.

Not been able to try this on my wife's iPhone 6S and my HTC M9 doesn't yet support it (hopefully not too long) but curious to know. Handing off to VoLTE from WI-Fi calling and back on the iPhone is pretty cool and works well.”

As packages says, 4G to 3G uses something called SRVCC or Single Radio Voice Call Continuity.
Going the other way (Reverse SRVCC) is a thing but is very hard to implement and is not really required on the EE network.
Currently the network layers are set up so 2G is the biggest footprint, 3G in the middle and 4G the smallest footprint. So calls only need to drop down a layer.
Once power levels are raised VoLTE users won't see the 2G/3G layers anymore anyway.
studioscot57
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“Congratulations. Excellent. It must be a right bugger to get decent backhaul up there in places.
Any sign of 800?”

Yes, it's on the mast according to the planning application lodged more than a year ago - but it doesn't seem to be activated yet.
japitts
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by DaveProudlock:
“Interestingly EE have applied for planning permission for quite a few new masts to be built in this area. Must be filling in a few black spots.”

Good to see that EE are progressing new site builds then - there's a few spots around the more remote corners of Scotland where this could be most useful.
matty1000kk
09-08-2016
Coverage checker updated.
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