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Old 11-03-2016, 22:31
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sometimes there are albums that are just so good that demand repeat play yet the critics hate ...

simply put the critics do get it wrong!?

what are your top 5?
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Old 11-03-2016, 22:32
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Old 11-03-2016, 23:15
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Good selection, I agree with all of those.
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Old 12-03-2016, 02:17
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Black Sabbath 1st and 2nd Albums.
Led Zeppelin one.
The Sex Pistols "Never mind the bollocks".
The Ramone's first Album.
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:41
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Black Sabbath 1st and 2nd Albums.
Led Zeppelin one.
The Sex Pistols "Never mind the bollocks".
The Ramone's first Album.
But the critics were drooling over every one of those.
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:12
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But the critics were drooling over every one of those.
I dont remember the critics ever drooling over Black Sabbath.
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:28
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Gossip - A Joyful Noise
No Doubt - Push and Shove

Can't think of 5.
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Old 12-03-2016, 11:16
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Hated is a strong term but here are some albums I love that were all but dismissed critically

1.Human After All-Daft Punk
2. Sometime In New York City-John Lennon & Yoko Ono
3.Kill Uncle-Morrissey
4.It-Pulp
5.Electric Cafe-Kraftwerk


Could also stick in Pinkerton by Weezer which was slated when it came out but now is generally considered as their second best album
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Old 12-03-2016, 11:28
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No particular order.
1. Madonna - Hard Candy
2. Madonna - MDNA
3. Sugababes - Sweet 7
4. The Saturdays - On Your Radar
5. Britney Spears - Blackout (though a lot of critics have changed their minds on this one since release).

I don't think critics actually hated any of these, but out of all thr albums I own, these ones probably have the worst reviews out of the albums each of these artists has released. But I love them.
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Old 12-03-2016, 13:52
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Interesting.
Oasis Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants. Far from perfect - Little James? Who Feels Love? - Shudder. But far better than Be Here Now which every musical journalist in the country tried to persuade us all was the nineties Revolver.
The Stones Satanic Majesties Request. Overall it's probably a failure but for me it's a fascinating one. Was dismissed as a Beatles cash in at the time.
Paul Weller Heliocentric. Apparently even he hates this one but for me it's one of his very best. Dust and Rocks is up there with his best work.
The Smith's, The Smiths. Regarded as the runt of the litter now - largely because of the band - but its a total one off. Has any other band dared to go near the subject matters like they did on here?
Bob Dylan The Times They Are A Changing. Regarded as pompous, self important and humourless. And it is. But still as powerful and relevant today as when he released it.
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Old 12-03-2016, 14:18
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Death Of A Ladies' Man - Leonard Cohen. When sparse singer-songwriter teams up with Phil Spector for an album of lush orchestration. Cohen's fans hated it a la Electric Dylan, Cohen and Spector fell out, and even Cohen pretends it doesn't exist. But it's a fantastic record. Truly.

Hot Space - Queen. It's really quite good. Some of it is dated and, yes, it's not really "true" Queen on side one (side two is a lot more "Queen-esque"), but it's not Queen's worst album by any stretch.

Approximately Infinite Universe - Yoko Ono. Believe it or not, Yoko's first two albums did well critically - it was very abrasive, non-mainstream music, sure, but it was the vein of Can. The more avant-garde critics adored it. Even Lester Bangs was a fan. With AIU however, Yoko tries something a little more pop/rock-oriented. For me, it's a tremendous collection of songs, but she lost the avant garde fans with it, and failed to gain any "mainstream" fans who had already decided they hated her.

Can't think of any others for now.
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Old 12-03-2016, 17:56
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Interesting.
Oasis Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants. Far from perfect - Little James? Who Feels Love? - Shudder. But far better than Be Here Now which every musical journalist in the country tried to persuade us all was the nineties Revolver.
The Stones Satanic Majesties Request. Overall it's probably a failure but for me it's a fascinating one. Was dismissed as a Beatles cash in at the time.
Paul Weller Heliocentric. Apparently even he hates this one but for me it's one of his very best. Dust and Rocks is up there with his best work.
The Smith's, The Smiths. Regarded as the runt of the litter now - largely because of the band - but its a total one off. Has any other band dared to go near the subject matters like they did on here?
Bob Dylan The Times They Are A Changing. Regarded as pompous, self important and humourless. And it is. But still as powerful and relevant today as when he released it.
The Smiths debut might be my favourite ever album
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:11
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The Smiths debut might be my favourite ever album
Me too
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Old 13-03-2016, 21:38
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1. Madonna American Life One of Madonna's best albums in my opinion. Maybe not the most tuneful but lyrically and musically was the most interesting.
2. Alanis Morissette: Supposed Infatuation Junkie. Much more depth then her debut yet didn't have as positive reviews.
3. Kate Bush: The Dreaming. Brilliant experimental album. Slammed by a lot of critics at the time, though recently some have noticed its charms.
4. Everything Everything: Man Alive. Reveived Luke warm reviews yet the variety and quirkiness of the songs beats most artists around today.
5. Lady Gaga: Artpop. Extremely catchy from start to finish. Slamed by the critics and didn't sell as expected either.
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Old 13-03-2016, 21:54
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2. Alanis Morissette: Supposed Infatuation Junkie. Much more depth then her debut yet didn't have as positive reviews.
She had two Canadian-only albums before 'Jagged Little Pill' and I'm not sure they were well received by critics.
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Old 14-03-2016, 09:18
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I dont remember the critics ever drooling over Black Sabbath.
Geezer Butler was once asked about critics' opinions of Black sabbath and he said something along the lines of...

"If Mozart came back from the dead and gave the finest performance the world had ever seen, the critics' would say..."Well that was shit.""

Personally I prefer to make my own mind up rather than worry about what a critic thinks.
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Old 14-03-2016, 18:03
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She had two Canadian-only albums before 'Jagged Little Pill' and I'm not sure they were well received by critics.
And for good reason .
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:05
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People Michael Jackson's Dangerous was rubbish but I though it was quite good.
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Old 15-03-2016, 14:43
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There's usually some writer out there who gives a bad review amongst a heap of good ones but surely there can't be that many listenable albums that are almost universally derided?
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Old 15-03-2016, 16:50
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1. Madonna American Life One of Madonna's best albums in my opinion. Maybe not the most tuneful but lyrically and musically was the most interesting.
2. Alanis Morissette: Supposed Infatuation Junkie. Much more depth then her debut yet didn't have as positive reviews.
3. Kate Bush: The Dreaming. Brilliant experimental album. Slammed by a lot of critics at the time, though recently some have noticed its charms.
4. Everything Everything: Man Alive. Reveived Luke warm reviews yet the variety and quirkiness of the songs beats most artists around today.
5. Lady Gaga: Artpop. Extremely catchy from start to finish. Slamed by the critics and didn't sell as expected either.
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Kate Bush - The Dreaming (sat in your lap is just the most exciting song ever, insane video)
Lady Gaga - Artpop (title track is brilliant, combining crazy catchiness with very clever self referencing lyrics, if you can, watch the muppets meet lady gaga ! She duets with Elton John at the piano with this song, iconic )!
I also suggest

Abba - The Album . Often seen as least catchy songs but I think it's their most varied stylistically, ranging from majestic country rock (one man, one woman), rock ( eagle, name of the game)) to sublime disco pop (take a chance on me), to flawed but interesting musical theatre ( I wonder , thank you for the music )
Toyah - Anthem . A critically derided artist / band, but unique melodic arrangements and I am a sucker for some sci fi goddess - led prog pop. Best songs for me are Masai Boy, I Am, Obsolete and the better known It's a Mystery and Thunder in the mountains. Crazy chariot riding video for the latter too.
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Old 17-03-2016, 16:13
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But the critics were drooling over every one of those.
Not at time of release, all those albums had a large number of bad reviews.
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Old 17-03-2016, 20:48
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I dont remember the critics ever drooling over Black Sabbath.
You could be right, although the only genuine review I could find from that time was by Lester Bangs for Rolling Stone, which doesn't count – there's no way the Yanks could ever have got it. I remember my older cousin (who was extremely hip) buying it as soon as it came out, so assumed there must have been a good vibe about it from somewhere.

When I think about it, I'm hard pushed to remember any album at all that was truly roasted by the critics except for Self Portrait by Bob Dylan – which was rubbish.
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Old 19-03-2016, 10:00
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You could be right, although the only genuine review I could find from that time was by Lester Bangs for Rolling Stone, which doesn't count – there's no way the Yanks could ever have got it. I remember my older cousin (who was extremely hip) buying it as soon as it came out, so assumed there must have been a good vibe about it from somewhere.

When I think about it, I'm hard pushed to remember any album at all that was truly roasted by the critics except for Self Portrait by Bob Dylan – which was rubbish.
I remember they became huge with many kids, but the critics really didn't have a good word for them.

Deep Purple suffered the same fate too.
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Old 20-03-2016, 23:25
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Death Of A Ladies' Man - Leonard Cohen. When sparse singer-songwriter teams up with Phil Spector for an album of lush orchestration. Cohen's fans hated it a la Electric Dylan, Cohen and Spector fell out, and even Cohen pretends it doesn't exist. But it's a fantastic record. Truly.

Hot Space - Queen. It's really quite good. Some of it is dated and, yes, it's not really "true" Queen on side one (side two is a lot more "Queen-esque"), but it's not Queen's worst album by any stretch.

Approximately Infinite Universe - Yoko Ono. Believe it or not, Yoko's first two albums did well critically - it was very abrasive, non-mainstream music, sure, but it was the vein of Can. The more avant-garde critics adored it. Even Lester Bangs was a fan. With AIU however, Yoko tries something a little more pop/rock-oriented. For me, it's a tremendous collection of songs, but she lost the avant garde fans with it, and failed to gain any "mainstream" fans who had already decided they hated her.

Can't think of any others for now.
I love Leonard Cohen, but I despise Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound" trademark, so I can't imagine that I would like this album. Phil Spector never did subtle as far as I can remember.
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Old 22-03-2016, 02:31
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I love Leonard Cohen, but I despise Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound" trademark, so I can't imagine that I would like this album. Phil Spector never did subtle as far as I can remember.
I was once speaking to one of Cohen's biographers, and she mentioned to me that she, too, loved the album, but that "in many ways it's more a Spector record than Cohen's," and I think she's quite right, so it probably won't be particularly to your liking; though it does host some of Cohen's most bitter, incisive lyrics (and that is, of course, saying a lot).

I'd suggest you try this song from the album - "I Left A Woman Waiting" - and see how you feel about it. If you don't like it, I wouldn't bother with the album!
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