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Which Strictly participant benefited the most from their time on the show?
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Ochre
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Hi Ochre Have you picked up your Rolls Royce?? I like Mark Foster, seems a very nice guy. I think he is one of our most talented swimmers and obvious choice for the job as a pundit. I don't think Strictly did much to his profile. He is good at his job, so that helps.”

Hi Sarah Ha ha not quite a Rolls Royce but a 7 seater that doesn't feel like a bus to drive

I do like Mark, he seems lovely and I enjoyed watching him when he was still swimming. Wonder who the Olympians will be on Strictly this year, thrilled about Will.
Lou_Black
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Hi Ochre Have you picked up your Rolls Royce?? I like Mark Foster, seems a very nice guy. I think he is one of our most talented swimmers and obvious choice for the job as a pundit. I don't think Strictly did much to his profile. He is good at his job, so that helps.”

He has been great on the Olympics hasn't he
Sarah777
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“He has been great on the Olympics hasn't he ”

Good morning, Lou Are you being sacarstic?? He is a very good pundit and I love his cheeky comments.
Lou_Black
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Good morning, Lou Are you being sacarstic?? He is a very good pundit and I love his cheeky comments.”


No, I promise I wasn't!! I meant as a pundit!
Sarah_Jones5
10-08-2016
Georgia has said that she had no life whilst on the show:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...lebs-on-strict
Ochre
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah_Jones5:
“Georgia has said that she had no life whilst on the show:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...lebs-on-strict”

"There's no such thing as the perfect body , , , I'm not worried about what I look like."

Doesn't stop her publicly body shaming unsuspecting members of the public on social media though.

Says the right things, acts differently.
Brian_Grahams
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“"There's no such thing as the perfect body , , , I'm not worried about what I look like."

Doesn't stop her publicly body shaming unsuspecting members of the public on social media though.

Says the right things, acts differently.”

You see, this is what I mean, positive discussion about others, the minute Georgia is mentioned something is plucked out as negative. Oh well, I'm used to it!

Was it the best thing to say? Not exactly.
Was it done with an intention to 'publicly body shame' - 100% not IMO. What I read it as was something she had wrote in passing. Perhaps a bit more consideration as to who reads tweets could've been wise, but I've no doubt she set out with no malicious intentions.

For that reason I believe entirely what she says in her interview - "You are what you are - i don't think there's any point worrying too much what you look like. Every single person is different and we're all beautiful . There's no such thing as a perfect body. I don't really miss that body because right now i'm just happy with my life. I'm not worried about what i look like." Spot on. A great role model especially for teenagers and young adults.
Ellie1967
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Was it the best thing to say? Not exactly.
Was it done with an intention to 'publicly body shame' - 100% not IMO. What I read it as was something she had wrote in passing. Perhaps a bit more consideration as to who reads tweets could've been wise, but I've no doubt she set out with no malicious intentions.”

It's not really about who reads it though - even if the woman in question didn't read it it's still publicly ridiculing someone on their appearance, which isn't really being a great role model for young people. I'm sure she didn't have malicious intentions, but thoughtlessness to other people's feelings isn't great either. I would think the same if any of the people discussed on here had tweeted something like that BTW.
Ochre
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“You see, this is what I mean, positive discussion about others, the minute Georgia is mentioned something is plucked out as negative. Oh well, I'm used to it!

Was it the best thing to say? Not exactly.
Was it done with an intention to 'publicly body shame' - 100% not IMO. What I read it as was something she had wrote in passing. Perhaps a bit more consideration as to who reads tweets could've been wise, but I've no doubt she set out with no malicious intentions.

For that reason I believe entirely what she says in her interview - "You are what you are - i don't think there's any point worrying too much what you look like. Every single person is different and we're all beautiful . There's no such thing as a perfect body. I don't really miss that body because right now i'm just happy with my life. I'm not worried about what i look like." Spot on. A great role model especially for teenagers and young adults.”

I'd criticise Helen, Pixie, Sophie, Anita, Alesha if they posted something similar, they don't.

BIB Taking the time to type out the message, upload it, not deleting it despite other users pointing out the lady could read it having recognised Georgia . . . I don't like the attitude that shows and certainly wouldn't see Georgia as a good role model for my teen who is at an age where she's very self conscious about her appearance.
Monkseal
10-08-2016
"Which Strictly participant benefited the most from their time on the show?"
aggs
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“You see, this is what I mean, positive discussion about others, the minute Georgia is mentioned something is plucked out as negative. Oh well, I'm used to it!

Was it the best thing to say? Not exactly.
Was it done with an intention to 'publicly body shame' - 100% not IMO. What I read it as was something she had wrote in passing. Perhaps a bit more consideration as to who reads tweets could've been wise, but I've no doubt she set out with no malicious intentions.

For that reason I believe entirely what she says in her interview - "You are what you are - i don't think there's any point worrying too much what you look like. Every single person is different and we're all beautiful . There's no such thing as a perfect body. I don't really miss that body because right now i'm just happy with my life. I'm not worried about what i look like." Spot on. A great role model especially for teenagers and young adults.”

This is what I don't get about Twitter/social media - is it completely necessary to share every thought that enters your head?

If some one is sat next to a person whispering with a mate, then I would call that rude - which is how I view that sort of comment. It's like giggling behind your hand with your mates and it's rude and thoughtless to a total stranger.

It's rude if it's done by someone with one follower and it's doubly rude when done by someone who has a face that is recognisable and has a large number of followers. If someone is setting themselves - or being set - up as any sort of role model then they can't pick and chose when it applies and when it doesn't.

I'm sorry if you think this 'proves' I've any thing against Georgia - I totally haven't, btw, I would say the same of celeb. It is possible to like a celeb and not like, agree or defend with absolutely everything they do. They are just as likely to drop a Clanger as anyone else and saying so doesn't make a person any less of a fan. Mr Weller and I have had many a disagreement he hasn't been party to over the years ...
StrictlyRed
10-08-2016
Kevin and Karen have started a new venture, running free term time Sunday afternoon dance classes for children ahead of a nationwide project. Good on them.

https://www.facebook.com/kevinandkarendance/
Brian_Grahams
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“I'd criticise Helen, Pixie, Sophie, Anita, Alesha if they posted something similar, they don't.

BIB Taking the time to type out the message, upload it, not deleting it despite other users pointing out the lady could read it having recognised Georgia . . . I don't like the attitude that shows and certainly wouldn't see Georgia as a good role model for my teen who is at an age where she's very self conscious about her appearance.”

Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“It's not really about who reads it though - even if the woman in question didn't read it it's still publicly ridiculing someone on their appearance, which isn't really being a great role model for young people. I'm sure she didn't have malicious intentions, but thoughtlessness to other people's feelings isn't great either. I would think the same if any of the people discussed on here had tweeted something like that BTW.”

Originally Posted by aggs:
“This is what I don't get about Twitter/social media - is it completely necessary to share every thought that enters your head?

If some one is sat next to a person whispering with a mate, then I would call that rude - which is how I view that sort of comment. It's like giggling behind your hand with your mates and it's rude and thoughtless to a total stranger.

It's rude if it's done by someone with one follower and it's doubly rude when done by someone who has a face that is recognisable and has a large number of followers. If someone is setting themselves - or being set - up as any sort of role model then they can't pick and chose when it applies and when it doesn't.

I'm sorry if you think this 'proves' I've any thing against Georgia - I totally haven't, btw, I would say the same of celeb. It is possible to like a celeb and not like, agree or defend with absolutely everything they do. They are just as likely to drop a Clanger as anyone else and saying so doesn't make a person any less of a fan. Mr Weller and I have had many a disagreement he hasn't been party to over the years ...”

Look at any celeb and they will have done something or said something that will have been deemed controversial, inappropriate or unnecessary.


Example 1

Example 2

Example 3

Are these people bad people, thoughtless people, bad role models - absolutely not IMO, in their own ways they are all extremely good people to look up to.

My point is, and what I attempted to put across in my first response is that celebs are not perfect, they say things and do things that aren't ideal. That doesn't make them a bad role model, it doesn't make them thoughtless, it just means at that particular time they did something that wasn't ideal and because it is in the public eye it gets picked up on.

God knows I've been thoughtless, selfish and made inappropriate comments on occasions during my life - does that make me a bad role model for my kids if I were to have any in the future, I should hope not!
StrictlyRed
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“"Which Strictly participant benefited the most from their time on the show?"”

Quite.
aggs
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Kevin and Karen have started a new venture, running free term time Sunday afternoon dance classes for children ahead of a nationwide project. Good on them.

https://www.facebook.com/kevinandkarendance/”

That sounds like super fun
Ochre
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Look at any celeb and they will have done something or said something that will have been deemed controversial, inappropriate or unnecessary.


Example 1

Example 2

Example 3

Are these people bad people, thoughtless people, bad role models - absolutely not IMO, in their own ways they are all extremely good people to look up to.

My point is, and what I attempted to put across in my first response is that celebs are not perfect, they say things and do things that aren't ideal. That doesn't make them a bad role model, it doesn't make them thoughtless, it just means at that particular time they did something that wasn't ideal and because it is in the public eye it gets picked up on.

God knows I've been thoughtless, selfish and made inappropriate comments on occasions during my life - does that make me a bad role model for my kids if I were to have any in the future, I should hope not!”

Alesha and Jay were paying compliments, however controversial some felt the wording.

A moments thoughtlessness from Pixie and Rod as they chatted forgetting their surroundings.

None of those examples equates to a celeb taking the time to publically body shame a member of the public to their thousands of social media followers.

Like I said Georgia likes to say what she thinks are the right things in interviews but her actions show a different attitude.
Sandy_Andrews
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“I'd criticise Helen, Pixie, Sophie, Anita, Alesha if they posted something similar, they don't.

BIB Taking the time to type out the message, upload it, not deleting it despite other users pointing out the lady could read it having recognised Georgia . . . I don't like the attitude that shows and certainly wouldn't see Georgia as a good role model for my teen who is at an age where she's very self conscious about her appearance.”

I guess it was a tiny bit thoughtless but lets face reality here, it is the sort of thing one says to ones friends ... not the end of the world !

Unlike the ladies you list Georgia is universally popular with everyone she works with as evidenced by all the responses she gets to her recent news items.
She is most obviously warm and delightful to work with.
Her ex Corrie co stars very much keep in touch and the Trollied cast are now among her friends - not to mention how much the other Strictly celebs loved her !

I don't know about your daughter but I think Georgia has all the attributes I tried to instill in my daughter - enthusiasm, ambition and the ability to work hard towards your goals while remaining modest and not at all conceited about your talents and your looks; having a great sense of humour is something some people have - maybe it is just learnt in the environment one grows up in - luckily my daughter has a great sense of fun and enjoys life as does Georgia, I would really think I had somehow failed if my daughter wasn't a joy to be with - like Georgia.

I do feel being bland, humourless, cold, conceited and lacking empathy for others are the attributes I find very off putting in other people and yet I see they are often present in the women you admire.
Sandy_Andrews
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“"Which Strictly participant benefited the most from their time on the show?"”

As of today Georgia May Foote !
Brian_Grahams
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“Alesha and Jay were paying compliments, however controversial some felt the wording.

A moments thoughtlessness from Pixie and Rod as they chatted forgetting their surroundings.

None of those examples equates to a celeb taking the time to publically body shame a member of the public to their thousands of social media followers.

Like I said Georgia likes to say what she thinks are the right things in interviews but her actions show a different attitude.”


Personally I'd be just as keen for my kids not to giggle in a remembrance service as I would be for them not to make critical comments about people's feet on social media!

But you describe it correctly I think, a moment of thoughtlessness. If occasional moments of thoughtlessness define attitudes does that mean that when Pixie giggles in a remembrance service, she has no respect for those who have given their lives for our country? Of course not! Georgia makes a critical comment of someone's feet - does that invalidate any positive comments she makes about body image and mean she advocates criticising everyone for their looks? Of course not! As with Pixie, a moment of thoughtlessness, at the most.

Celebs aren't perfect , they make mistakes now and then. Does it make them bad people, thoughtless people, not role models - absolutely not!
CatO9Tales
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“"Which Strictly participant benefited the most from their time on the show?"”

Good point, well made (Although I fear you're rowing against the tide .... )

I don't think any of us knows who benefited most from their time on the show. There are many ways in which individuals have benefited, some intensely personal and private. It isn't all about the things that are in the public eye ...
Sandy_Andrews
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“Alesha and Jay were paying compliments, however controversial some felt the wording.

A moments thoughtlessness from Pixie and Rod as they chatted forgetting their surroundings.

None of those examples equates to a celeb taking the time to publically body shame a member of the public to their thousands of social media followers.

Like I said Georgia likes to say what she thinks are the right things in interviews but her actions show a different attitude.”

That is quite absurd - would she be so popular among her friends and colleagues if that were the case ?

Look the new season of Strictly is about to begin and I know Georgia got further in the competition than your celeb crushes and she does get a lot of attention from the media (probably because she is so beautiful and likeable) and she is now being offered super work opportunities all of which obviously upsets you but it really is time to let all this totally unreasonable animosity go - There is almost bound to be a new female celeb you can hate on come September !

I can't work out whether Laura Whitmore Is cold enough and bland enough for you to support her or not
VicsMum
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Kevin and Karen have started a new venture, running free term time Sunday afternoon dance classes for children ahead of a nationwide project. Good on them.

https://www.facebook.com/kevinandkarendance/”

Oh, thanks for that! I have a seven year old, I'm going to take him
Huph
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“Kevin and Karen have started a new venture, running free term time Sunday afternoon dance classes for children ahead of a nationwide project. Good on them.

https://www.facebook.com/kevinandkarendance/”

Brilliant. Well done Kevin and Karen.

Can we please keep the Georgia love in it to the appreciation thread?
DeiseDays
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“"Which Strictly participant benefited the most from their time on the show?"”

DS thread topics are a bit like Broadway.
The further off-Broadway (off topic) you go, the less sparkly and professional the performance (discussion) and the fewer the people interested.

Originally Posted by CatO9Tales:
“I don't think any of us knows who benefited most from their time on the show. There are many ways in which individuals have benefited, some intensely personal and private. It isn't all about the things that are in the public eye ...”

Absolutely agree. Without knowing the motivation that prompted each participant to take part, it is very hard to quantify the benefit each one obtained.

I doubt that Carol Kirkwood and Peter Andre decided to participate for the same reasons, so it would be nigh impossible to objectively compare the benefits they derived from their time on Strictly.
Sandy_Andrews
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Huph:
“Brilliant. Well done Kevin and Karen.

Can we please keep the Georgia love in it to the appreciation thread?”

Yes i guess we can if the Georgia hate can be kept under control - can you have a word ?
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