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Which Strictly participant benefited the most from their time on the show?
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Sarah777
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“Been looking at some beautiful Pixie pics.

Pixie making a young Holly's night

Another tropical outfit (she carries it off I'd just look like a Pineapple)”

Thanks Ochre. Really stunning, love the shoes and the handbag too.
I am sure I could carry it, just in my hands.
Brian_Grahams
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Sorry, that was not an insult. It was meant to be a joke, obvious fail on my part.”

Was it a joke for me to find funny, or where you more making a joke at my expense, of perhaps more specifically making a cheeky comment about what I'd written in my post? Only you know the answer to that one of course. The fact is that you called me a name, and I thought that in light of your previous comments about name calling you might wish to retract it.

As for the post today in which you've been described as a 'hater' I'm still yet to find it.
Ochre
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Thanks Ochre. Really stunning, love the shoes and the handbag too.
I am sure I could carry it, just in my hands.”



Right you wear the pineapple outfit, I'll dress up in the lemon one from a few weeks ago and we'll get ourselves Strictly tickets Lou's only coming if she isn't busy replying to personal messages from Harry, Helen and Will Young
aggs
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“Been looking at some beautiful Pixie pics.

Pixie making a young Holly's night

Another tropical outfit (she carries it off I'd just look like a Pineapple)”

Gordon Bennett - that's a shocker
Not quite as bad as the Cotton Eye Joe blouse with the coat hanger left in from a couple of weeks ago, but still.
Silver lining - it's good to know that things can go wrong sartorially occasionally.
Sarah777
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Was it a joke for me to find funny, or where you more making a joke at my expense, of perhaps more specifically making a cheeky comment about what I'd written in my post? Only you know the answer to that one of course. The fact is that you called me a name, and I thought that in light of your previous comments about name calling you might wish to retract it.

As for the post today in which you've been described as a 'hater' I'm still yet to find it.”

As I mentioned before, meant to be a joke and not as an insult.


Most recent #1525 and #1591.
Ellie1967
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sandy_Andrews:
“OK hands up - and I like Helen too. Pixie not so much. but this followed weeks of really nasty digs at Georgia and suffocating over enthusiasm over Helen, the awful plastic Pixie and several other young women who didn't happen to be called Georgia
This included links and praise enough to make your hair curl - even in an appreciation thread we would have thought the posters were becoming totally obsessed and sad !
At least bringing reality to the thread for ten minutes stopped the attacks on Georgia which made a nice change.
Damning one woman by overpraising another has become an art form here, and nudge, nudge 'look I got a good one in there' must be the subject of all their PMs - if they didn't start these threads to attack Georgia (It is Georgia rather than GG which almost naturally seems very sexist) they would just post their family news to each other and tell each other how super duper they are and how much they fully agree with each other !
It is a great pity they don't use their energy in posting in the appropriate appreciation threads about the favoured few where they would be talking to like minded people and no one would disturb them.

Since you ask I think coming 'right out with it' is a great deal more honest than posting the speculation that the rest of the cast of BAT would be terribly devastated when Pixie left for example - implying that they would hate Georgia - I would speculate that it will be very much the reverse, Georgia has the habit of making friends where ever she works and as Pixie doesn't appear to have any rapport with her male co-stars on stage (See most reviews) I can only see them having a great deal more with Georgia !”

I can understand how it all escalated and I know it's not nice reading unfavourable comments about someone you like. I've probably posted things in the past which I wouldn't have if I'd thought about it a bit longer before clicking . It just all seems to be going round in circles and it doesn't look like anyone is going to change their minds. If people want to keep doing it though it's none of my business.

As I said, I wasn't really a fan of any of them on the show, but outside of it they all basically seem like nice people who all seem to like each other and have friends/family/co-stars who love them. I think it's been established that nobody's perfect - most of them have said or done something unfortunate at some point (or stood in the wrong place in a photo ) but they are all trying to make it in a difficult business and are having successes in various different ways, which is nice for all of them and as others have said is good for Strictly.

Re Pixie's pineapple dress.... As I've said before her dress sense isn't always my cup of tea but I do marvel at the size of her wardrobe - I don't think I've ever seen her in the same thing twice. As for being off-topic, maybe we need another thread 'Which Strictly contestant has gone on to have the most sartorial success' or something....
Sandy_Andrews
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Thanks for the reply Star. My only problem with G&G fans is that they get personal with the posters. If there is something negative about them, then defend your celebrity by all means, but no need for name calling.

I have no problem with Sandy saying that Georgia is more popular than some others, that is her opinion and she is entitled to it and we never called her a hater.

All I ask is stop insulting posters and just defend your celebrity.”


Would you like to point out where anyone has called you a 'hater' ?

Not an expression I use !

i don't call people names - but I do sometimes question your motives and your comments and pretending you are offended by being called a name which no one has used would be one of those !
Sarah777
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sandy_Andrews:
“Would you like to point out where anyone has called you a 'hater'?

Not an expression I use !

i don't call people names - but I do sometimes question your motives and your comments and pretending you are offended by being called a name which no one has used would be one of those !”

#1525 and #1591
Ochre
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Gordon Bennett - that's a shocker
Not quite as bad as the Cotton Eye Joe blouse with the coat hanger left in from a couple of weeks ago, but still.
Silver lining - it's good to know that things can go wrong sartorially occasionally. ”

BIB I must have missed that

These boots were made for walking though and maybe even rival the red ones?

I would genuinely love Pixie's wardrobe, my daughters would have a field day
Sarah777
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“

Right you wear the pineapple outfit, I'll dress up in the lemon one from a few weeks ago and we'll get ourselves Strictly tickets Lou's only coming if she isn't busy replying to personal messages from Harry, Helen and Will Young ”

I love pineapple and game for wearing it. Would love to get tickets for Strictly.

BIB - I think Lucky Lou has traded up, don't blame her.
Sandy_Andrews
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“#1525 and #1591”

Exactly - I didn't use the expression 'hater' !

An apology would be nice
Brian_Grahams
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“As I mentioned before, meant to be a joke and not as an insult.


Most recent #1525 and #1591.”

Without wishing to get into an argument over semantics, to say someone hates something and to call them a hater is a different thing.

I hate olives, but I wouldn't describe myself as a hater. We all hate something, we're not all haters.
Ellie1967
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“I don't view this like a game of 'sides', i.e. fans of GG v everyone else. Us GG fans are our own people, and though we are indeed fans of GG it does not define us.

So, speaking for myself, I challenge anyone to find a negative post I've made about a celeb on here”

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply all G & G fans are the same, it was just that the poster I was replying to spoke in terms of 'sides' so I responded similarly. I know your posts have always been very reasonable and you haven't insulted anyone.
aggs
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“Re Pixie's pineapple dress.... As I've said before her dress sense isn't always my cup of tea but I do marvel at the size of her wardrobe - I don't think I've ever seen her in the same thing twice. As for being off-topic, maybe we need another thread 'Which Strictly contestant has gone on to have the most sartorial success' or something....”

I assume there is some sort of arrangement with the designer/shops - Pixie, as part of her PR job for the BAT stuff is being featured in the Daily Mail daily ... whatever she wears then features in the 'fashion bit'. I imagine that a lot of her outfits are on loan for the publicity and go back when she gets home
aggs
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“BIB I must have missed that

These boots were made for walking though and maybe even rival the red ones?

I would genuinely love Pixie's wardrobe, my daughters would have a field day”

Nah, the Bowie Boots everytime
Sandy_Andrews
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“I can understand how it all escalated and I know it's not nice reading unfavourable comments about someone you like. I've probably posted things in the past which I wouldn't have if I'd thought about it a bit longer before clicking . It just all seems to be going round in circles and it doesn't look like anyone is going to change their minds. If people want to keep doing it though it's none of my business.

As I said, I wasn't really a fan of any of them on the show, but outside of it they all basically seem like nice people who all seem to like each other and have friends/family/co-stars who love them. I think it's been established that nobody's perfect - most of them have said or done something unfortunate at some point (or stood in the wrong place in a photo ) but they are all trying to make it in a difficult business and are having successes in various different ways, which is nice for all of them and as others have said is good for Strictly.

Re Pixie's pineapple dress.... As I've said before her dress sense isn't always my cup of tea but I do marvel at the size of her wardrobe - I don't think I've ever seen her in the same thing twice. As for being off-topic, maybe we need another thread 'Which Strictly contestant has gone on to have the most sartorial success' or something....”

Yes it wasn't by accident that Ab Fab always made jokes about Dolce & Gabbana
Ochre
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I love pineapple and game for wearing it. Would love to get tickets for Strictly.

BIB - I think Lucky Lou has traded up, don't blame her.”

Challenge for Lou, see if you can get a reply from Trent

BIB Awww wouldn't I just. I can imagine some of the magic of the TV show would be lost, seeing how it's all put together but watching my favourite pros dancing live is what I'd really love
Brian_Grahams
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“I can understand how it all escalated and I know it's not nice reading unfavourable comments about someone you like. I've probably posted things in the past which I wouldn't have if I'd thought about it a bit longer before clicking . It just all seems to be going round in circles and it doesn't look like anyone is going to change their minds. If people want to keep doing it though it's none of my business.

As I said, I wasn't really a fan of any of them on the show, but outside of it they all basically seem like nice people who all seem to like each other and have friends/family/co-stars who love them. I think it's been established that nobody's perfect - most of them have said or done something unfortunate at some point (or stood in the wrong place in a photo ) but they are all trying to make it in a difficult business and are having successes in various different ways, which is nice for all of them and as others have said is good for Strictly.”

BIB - Absolutely agree.

And I get your point about it going round in circles, I probably wouldn't be particularly bothered if GG were criticised sometimes, but when it gets to the stage that they're getting criticised for standing in a photo, then as a fan of theirs it does become quite hard for me to ignore!

Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply all G & G fans are the same, it was just that the poster I was replying to spoke in terms of 'sides' so I responded similarly. I know your posts have always been very reasonable and you haven't insulted anyone.”

No worries!
Sarah777
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Without wishing to get into an argument over semantics, to say someone hates something and to call them a hater is a different thing.

I hate olives, but I wouldn't describe myself as a hater. We all hate something, we're not all haters.”

You are kidding, right???
Ellie1967
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs;83c573758:
“I assume there is some sort of arrangement with the designer/shops - Pixie, as part of her PR job for the BAT stuff is being featured in the Daily Mail daily ... whatever she wears then features in the 'fashion bit'. I imagine that a lot of her outfits are on loan for the publicity and go back when she gets home ”

I did wonder, as she always looks like she's going out somewhere fancy after her show. I was impressed that she had the energy to socialise every night when I'd just be slumping out looking knackered in jeans and a t-shirt, but if she just goes home and sends it back that makes more sense . I may not be a fan of the pineapple, but I really liked that blue dress with the matching headband she wore a few weeks ago, that other people thought was a seventies nightie
star89
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“I agree with a lot of what you say, but there's been a fair bit of needling going on on both sides. ”

That's why I said 'from both sides' in my post

I have absolutely no time for the sniping in this thread - any of it. From either 'side'. I like all of the people discussed in here, Georgia, Pixie, Anita, Helen (I've worked with her, she's lovely) but I can't stand the constant negative things about Georgia so I just stay away - people can say what they want but I don't have to read it

Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Thanks for the reply Star. My only problem with G&G fans is that they get personal with the posters. If there is something negative about them, then defend your celebrity by all means, but no need for name calling.

I have no problem with Sandy saying that Georgia is more popular than some others, that is her opinion and she is entitled to it and we never called her a hater.

All I ask is stop insulting posters and just defend your celebrity.”

Some GG fans Posters are their own people and I cannot control what people say or post. But I think you've said it well enough yourself - no need for personal insults
Brian_Grahams
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“You are kidding, right???”

Nope.
Though perhaps I haven't phrased my point very well. To say that someone called you a 'hater' would arguably imply a personal insult to you as they have described you as a hater. Whereas to say you 'hate' something is used to describe your feelings about something, rather than describe you and is therefore not an insult.
Sarah777
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sandy_Andrews:
“Exactly - I didn't use the expression 'hater' !

An apology would be nice ”

Unbelievable, you said that we would find somebody else to hate and asked us to cut down Georgia hate and you are asking us to apologize. Never going to happen.
aggs
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Nope.
Though perhaps I haven't phrased my point very well. To say that someone called you a 'hater' would arguably imply a personal insult to you as they have described you as a hater. Whereas to say you 'hate' something is used to describe your feelings about something, rather than describe you and is therefore not an insult.”

At the risk of prolonging yet another fruitless jaunt around this particular maypole, I would say that the terms both 'hate' and 'hater' are so open to misinterpretation that neither should either be used or defended. There are plenty of other less lazy words to use - and personally I neither 'hate' nor am a 'hater' of (or indeed on) and person on a two-bit light entertainment programme I have no knowledge of in 'real life'.
Sarah777
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“At the risk of prolonging yet another fruitless jaunt around this particular maypole, I would say that the terms both 'hate' and 'hater' are so open to misinterpretation that neither should either be used or defended. There are plenty of other less lazy words to use - and personally I neither 'hate' nor am a 'hater' of (or indeed on) and person on a two-bit light entertainment programme I have no knowledge of in 'real life'.”

Totally agree with the post.
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