iPhone SE launch 21st March

Black Box · 21-03-2016, 18:54

Anyone know what time iOS 9.3 will be available?

They mentioned it would be today. Just curious to know what time if anyone knows.

Broken Hope · 21-03-2016, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Box

Anyone know what time iOS 9.3 will be available?

They mentioned it would be today. Just curious to know what time if anyone knows.

It's available now.

JasonWatkins · 21-03-2016, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33rd Governor

I like it, I wanted a new small one, may well buy. Phone memory is not that important, everything should be in the cloud and synced to a main device.

That's all well and good if you haven't got around 50gb of music on your phone, as I have

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdenson

Has anyone seen a UK price yet for the SE ?

I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing was like for like.

squawkBOX · 21-03-2016, 19:10

Prices are now on the Apple UK website: £359 for 16GB and £439 for 64GB model.

calico_pie · 21-03-2016, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWatkins

That's all well and good if you haven't got around 50gb of music on your phone, as I have

I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing was like for like.

Music used to be the thing that I needed storage for, but that's far less of an issue using Apple Music.

With the pricing, shame it wasn't:

32GB - 329
64GB - 399

Are the SE prices the same as the 5S have been?

bigsis · 21-03-2016, 19:29

I've just checked my iPad Air 2 for a software update and iOS 9.3 is ready for download and installation. Will be installing once it's finished charging.

JasonWatkins · 21-03-2016, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

Music used to be the thing that I needed storage for, but that's far less of an issue using Apple Music.

It probably would be for me as well, but i don't like paying to listen to music i already own

calico_pie · 21-03-2016, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWatkins

It probably would be for me as well, but i don't like paying to listen to music i already own

Its horses for courses - I'm not paying to listen to music I already own.

The way I look at it, is £10 a month is way cheaper than buying a few albums a month. And its a great way to listen to lots of stuff I probably wouldn't go out to buy.

But if the music you already own is all the music you really listen to, and you would hardly be buying much new stuff, then obviously that £10 a month probably isn't worth it.

Stereo Steve · 21-03-2016, 20:10

There is no point in being disappointed about the SE. For some people, it will be perfect. Me for one. I may still wait to see what the 7 comes out as but for me, it's a 4/5 style phone with a superb camera and all the bits and functionality I need. I personally don't much like these slither type phones like the one I have now. I liked my 4S more than any other phone I've had. Solid and useful. The fact I can get that again but with LTE, VoLTE , Apple pay, wifi calling etc. etc. and an even better camera is a winner. The screen is not really the most important part for me as I struggle to use even my ZTE slab for anything serious. Always end up on the iPad or PC for browsing. That's just me but it will also be a lot of other people.

I work most of the time outside with the phone in my pocket. These big, flat slabs are never comfortable in that environment. I very much like it and I think I might get one. I think it will be a winner. Updates a classic design that many are comfortable with and adds in all the new power features we are going to need.

JasonWatkins · 21-03-2016, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

Its horses for courses - I'm not paying to listen to music I already own.

The way I look at it, is £10 a month is way cheaper than buying a few albums a month. And its a great way to listen to lots of stuff I probably wouldn't go out to buy.

But if the music you already own is all the music you really listen to, and you would hardly be buying much new stuff, then obviously that £10 a month probably isn't worth it.

I get that. I'm a music junkie as it is, so i suppose in the grand scheme of things, a tenner isn't that much - I do listen to spotify a lot and have a couple of new music playlists that i listen to every week for new stuff.

But then I do find i jump back to the local content a fair amount as well, in part due to having a bit of a spotty data reception in the area i live in.

Black Box · 21-03-2016, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Hope

It's available now.

Thanks...typically it became available just after I posted.

ney · 21-03-2016, 20:41

I did like sat he Nexus 7 2012 modal by it stared playing up about 7 or 8 months ago and a factory reset only seemed to solved the problem for a few weeks. I replaced it with an mini 4 at the beginning of the year.
I had been thinking of replacing my Nexus 4 that I had for well over 2 year with a Nexus 5x or 5 plus as my Nexus 4 in the last few months was starting to have a few minor problems but have replaced it with an IPhone 5s that someone gave me for less than half price. After they upgraded to the IPhone 6s and knew I had been looking for a new phone.
Google seem to have never really replace the Nexus 7 with anything new wihich is a shame and I don't think the Nexus 5x or 5 plus has sold as well as they have hoped.
I seem to now know more people in the last 6 months that now have something made by Apple than I do Android and it never used to be that way.
I also know some pepole that now have a smartwatch of some kind or a Fitbit after they got them at Christmas.

Darren

jonmorris · 21-03-2016, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

There is no point in being disappointed about the SE. For some people, it will be perfect. Me for one. I may still wait to see what the 7 comes out as but for me, it's a 4/5 style phone with a superb camera and all the bits and functionality I need.

Why wait for the 7 then? It's clearly going to keep a large screen so by your own admission, the SE is the one for you.

It's good that Apple has done what Sony did for years, giving a smaller screen version of a flagship and without cutting specs (bar screen resolution).

Shame Sony doesn't appear to want to do that going forward!

Stereo Steve · 21-03-2016, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Why wait for the 7 then? It's clearly going to keep a large screen so by your own admission, the SE is the one for you.

It's good that Apple has done what Sony did for years, giving a smaller screen version of a flagship and without cutting specs (bar screen resolution).

Shame Sony doesn't appear to want to do that going forward!

Yes, probably what I'll do. I was waiting on the 7 and then this came up and has disrupted my brain!. Probably buy outright and go sim only anyway so can change if need be.

Everything Goes · 21-03-2016, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

If we ignore the fact that 'I think you will find...' is the most patronising expression in the English language, I think you will find that saying that Android "shapes what Apple do' on the basis of a list of things that Android had first, while ignoring anything that iOS had first kinda makes that a pretty ridiculous general claim to make. Smily face

Figured you would turn up for this thread. See you again in September

Everything Goes · 21-03-2016, 22:33

The SE isn't a bad phone. Way better than the 5C. Whilst im not keen on such a small screen it will appeal to those people who prefer smaller phones. The 16GB is a false economy unless you don't want to do anything much with it. Really they should have offered 32GB as the bare minimum but that aside it should sell quite well. Proper VoLTE support out the box and improved LTE band support are good. I suspect it will sell quite well.

KOP1975 · 21-03-2016, 22:55

Once you've had the 6 you can't go back.
The phone would look tiny.
I'm only interested in the iPhone 7 nowt else
If Apple are to go back to anything I'd like it to be the slightly curved back like on the iPhone 3.
Fitted into the hand lovely.
I currently have a 128gb iPhone 6. Love it. Had it 2 years this sept.

Keith_13 · 21-03-2016, 23:01

Personally...

iPod 80GB Classic holds my music and connects to the car.

I use a BlackBerry Classic & iPhone 5 daily, the new iPhone is perfect for me, I use an iPad on the train and don't listen to music on the move.

New iPhone & iPad are perfect upgrades for people like me.

misawa97 · 22-03-2016, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Why wait for the 7 then? It's clearly going to keep a large screen so by your own admission, the SE is the one for you.

It's good that Apple has done what Sony did for years, giving a smaller screen version of a flagship and without cutting specs (bar screen resolution).

Shame Sony doesn't appear to want to do that going forward!

Sony phones don't sell.

Apple still Releasing a 16gb phone in 2016 is nothing short of ridiculous.

jonmorris · 22-03-2016, 00:57

Sony have had problems for some time, but they understood that people wanting a small screen didn't want a single core CPU running at 1MHz.

I think the idea of doing the SE is sound, although they could surely have done something with the design. I guess that's why Jony Ive didn't talk about the design today as even Apple couldn't big it up.

And 16GB is crazy for the money and the rest of the specs. Clearly made to give a nice headline price but with almost everyone trading up.

calico_pie · 22-03-2016, 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Figured you would turn up for this thread. See you again in September

Figured you might reply but manage to ignore the point.

Heck, I'm such an Apple nut that come September I might even replace my by then three year old 5S.

Everything Goes · 22-03-2016, 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

Figured you might reply but manage to ignore the point.

Heck, I'm such an Apple nut that come September I might even replace my by then three year old 5S.

Yes it was worth ignoring your err so called points lol

Good to know you are aiming to replace the 5S. I was half thinking of getting a SE to replace my 5 but im not in any hurry. Still using my 3 year old Galaxy S4 as the daily workhorse and may get an LG G5.

Catch you back here in September and have a good Summer

calico_pie · 22-03-2016, 07:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Yes it was worth ignoring your err so called points lol

Good to know you are aiming to replace the 5S. I was half thinking of getting a SE to replace my 5 but im not in any hurry. Still using my 3 year old Galaxy S4 as the daily workhorse and may get an LG G5.

Catch you back here in September and have a good Summer

So called points?

I love the way you say that as though your point stands and mine made no sense.

You just can't quite manage to say what you disagreed with - I guess we all know really you were just talking cobblers.

Icaraa · 22-03-2016, 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by calico_pie

Music used to be the thing that I needed storage for, but that's far less of an issue using Apple Music.

With the pricing, shame it wasn't:

32GB - 329
64GB - 399

Are the SE prices the same as the 5S have been?

You don't even need to pay for Apple Music though. I don't, I just pay yearly for iTunes Match and all of my music is on iCloud then. That way I can easily get away with a 16Gb iPhone.

JasonWatkins · 22-03-2016, 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icaraa

You don't even need to pay for Apple Music though. I don't, I just pay yearly for iTunes Match and all of my music is on iCloud then. That way I can easily get away with a 16Gb iPhone.

Actually, that's certainly not a bad comparison. £21.99 a year for iTunes match as opposed to £120 a year for Apple Music or even Spotify. Pretty big saving.

21-03-2016, 18:54	#51
Black Box Forum Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 572	Anyone know what time iOS 9.3 will be available? They mentioned it would be today. Just curious to know what time if anyone knows.

21-03-2016, 18:59	#52
Broken Hope Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Nottingham Posts: 314	Quote: Originally Posted by Black Box Anyone know what time iOS 9.3 will be available? They mentioned it would be today. Just curious to know what time if anyone knows. It's available now.

21-03-2016, 19:02	#53
JasonWatkins Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 53,670	Quote: Originally Posted by 33rd Governor I like it, I wanted a new small one, may well buy. Phone memory is not that important, everything should be in the cloud and synced to a main device. That's all well and good if you haven't got around 50gb of music on your phone, as I have Quote: Originally Posted by tdenson Has anyone seen a UK price yet for the SE ? I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing was like for like.

21-03-2016, 19:10	#54
squawkBOX Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Central Scotland, UK Posts: 871	Prices are now on the Apple UK website: £359 for 16GB and £439 for 64GB model.

21-03-2016, 19:26	#55
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by JasonWatkins That's all well and good if you haven't got around 50gb of music on your phone, as I have I wouldn't be surprised if the pricing was like for like. Music used to be the thing that I needed storage for, but that's far less of an issue using Apple Music. With the pricing, shame it wasn't: 32GB - 329 64GB - 399 Are the SE prices the same as the 5S have been?

21-03-2016, 19:29	#56
bigsis Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: My home... Posts: 1,206	I've just checked my iPad Air 2 for a software update and iOS 9.3 is ready for download and installation. Will be installing once it's finished charging.

21-03-2016, 19:41	#57
JasonWatkins Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 53,670	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Music used to be the thing that I needed storage for, but that's far less of an issue using Apple Music. It probably would be for me as well, but i don't like paying to listen to music i already own

21-03-2016, 19:45	#58
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by JasonWatkins It probably would be for me as well, but i don't like paying to listen to music i already own Its horses for courses - I'm not paying to listen to music I already own. The way I look at it, is £10 a month is way cheaper than buying a few albums a month. And its a great way to listen to lots of stuff I probably wouldn't go out to buy. But if the music you already own is all the music you really listen to, and you would hardly be buying much new stuff, then obviously that £10 a month probably isn't worth it.

21-03-2016, 20:10	#59
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	There is no point in being disappointed about the SE. For some people, it will be perfect. Me for one. I may still wait to see what the 7 comes out as but for me, it's a 4/5 style phone with a superb camera and all the bits and functionality I need. I personally don't much like these slither type phones like the one I have now. I liked my 4S more than any other phone I've had. Solid and useful. The fact I can get that again but with LTE, VoLTE , Apple pay, wifi calling etc. etc. and an even better camera is a winner. The screen is not really the most important part for me as I struggle to use even my ZTE slab for anything serious. Always end up on the iPad or PC for browsing. That's just me but it will also be a lot of other people. I work most of the time outside with the phone in my pocket. These big, flat slabs are never comfortable in that environment. I very much like it and I think I might get one. I think it will be a winner. Updates a classic design that many are comfortable with and adds in all the new power features we are going to need.

21-03-2016, 20:11	#60
JasonWatkins Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 53,670	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Its horses for courses - I'm not paying to listen to music I already own. The way I look at it, is £10 a month is way cheaper than buying a few albums a month. And its a great way to listen to lots of stuff I probably wouldn't go out to buy. But if the music you already own is all the music you really listen to, and you would hardly be buying much new stuff, then obviously that £10 a month probably isn't worth it. I get that. I'm a music junkie as it is, so i suppose in the grand scheme of things, a tenner isn't that much - I do listen to spotify a lot and have a couple of new music playlists that i listen to every week for new stuff. But then I do find i jump back to the local content a fair amount as well, in part due to having a bit of a spotty data reception in the area i live in.

21-03-2016, 20:16	#61
Black Box Forum Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 572	Quote: Originally Posted by Broken Hope It's available now. Thanks...typically it became available just after I posted.

21-03-2016, 20:41	#62
ney Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Scotland, Dunfermline Area Posts: 10,704	I did like sat he Nexus 7 2012 modal by it stared playing up about 7 or 8 months ago and a factory reset only seemed to solved the problem for a few weeks. I replaced it with an mini 4 at the beginning of the year. I had been thinking of replacing my Nexus 4 that I had for well over 2 year with a Nexus 5x or 5 plus as my Nexus 4 in the last few months was starting to have a few minor problems but have replaced it with an IPhone 5s that someone gave me for less than half price. After they upgraded to the IPhone 6s and knew I had been looking for a new phone. Google seem to have never really replace the Nexus 7 with anything new wihich is a shame and I don't think the Nexus 5x or 5 plus has sold as well as they have hoped. I seem to now know more people in the last 6 months that now have something made by Apple than I do Android and it never used to be that way. I also know some pepole that now have a smartwatch of some kind or a Fitbit after they got them at Christmas. Darren

21-03-2016, 20:49	#63
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve There is no point in being disappointed about the SE. For some people, it will be perfect. Me for one. I may still wait to see what the 7 comes out as but for me, it's a 4/5 style phone with a superb camera and all the bits and functionality I need. Why wait for the 7 then? It's clearly going to keep a large screen so by your own admission, the SE is the one for you. It's good that Apple has done what Sony did for years, giving a smaller screen version of a flagship and without cutting specs (bar screen resolution). Shame Sony doesn't appear to want to do that going forward!

21-03-2016, 21:17	#64
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Why wait for the 7 then? It's clearly going to keep a large screen so by your own admission, the SE is the one for you. It's good that Apple has done what Sony did for years, giving a smaller screen version of a flagship and without cutting specs (bar screen resolution). Shame Sony doesn't appear to want to do that going forward! Yes, probably what I'll do. I was waiting on the 7 and then this came up and has disrupted my brain!. Probably buy outright and go sim only anyway so can change if need be.

21-03-2016, 22:15	#65
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie If we ignore the fact that 'I think you will find...' is the most patronising expression in the English language, I think you will find that saying that Android "shapes what Apple do' on the basis of a list of things that Android had first, while ignoring anything that iOS had first kinda makes that a pretty ridiculous general claim to make. Smily face Figured you would turn up for this thread. See you again in September

21-03-2016, 22:33	#66
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	The SE isn't a bad phone. Way better than the 5C. Whilst im not keen on such a small screen it will appeal to those people who prefer smaller phones. The 16GB is a false economy unless you don't want to do anything much with it. Really they should have offered 32GB as the bare minimum but that aside it should sell quite well. Proper VoLTE support out the box and improved LTE band support are good. I suspect it will sell quite well.

21-03-2016, 22:55	#67
KOP1975 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Romford Posts: 849	Once you've had the 6 you can't go back. The phone would look tiny. I'm only interested in the iPhone 7 nowt else If Apple are to go back to anything I'd like it to be the slightly curved back like on the iPhone 3. Fitted into the hand lovely. I currently have a 128gb iPhone 6. Love it. Had it 2 years this sept.

21-03-2016, 23:01	#68
Keith_13 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,018	Personally... iPod 80GB Classic holds my music and connects to the car. I use a BlackBerry Classic & iPhone 5 daily, the new iPhone is perfect for me, I use an iPad on the train and don't listen to music on the move. New iPhone & iPad are perfect upgrades for people like me.

22-03-2016, 00:44	#69
misawa97 Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 11,516	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Why wait for the 7 then? It's clearly going to keep a large screen so by your own admission, the SE is the one for you. It's good that Apple has done what Sony did for years, giving a smaller screen version of a flagship and without cutting specs (bar screen resolution). Shame Sony doesn't appear to want to do that going forward! Sony phones don't sell. Apple still Releasing a 16gb phone in 2016 is nothing short of ridiculous.

22-03-2016, 00:57	#70
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Sony have had problems for some time, but they understood that people wanting a small screen didn't want a single core CPU running at 1MHz. I think the idea of doing the SE is sound, although they could surely have done something with the design. I guess that's why Jony Ive didn't talk about the design today as even Apple couldn't big it up. And 16GB is crazy for the money and the rest of the specs. Clearly made to give a nice headline price but with almost everyone trading up.

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iPhone SE launch 21st March

22-03-2016, 01:57	#71
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Figured you would turn up for this thread. See you again in September Figured you might reply but manage to ignore the point. Heck, I'm such an Apple nut that come September I might even replace my by then three year old 5S.

22-03-2016, 07:13	#72
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Figured you might reply but manage to ignore the point. Heck, I'm such an Apple nut that come September I might even replace my by then three year old 5S. Yes it was worth ignoring your err so called points lol Good to know you are aiming to replace the 5S. I was half thinking of getting a SE to replace my 5 but im not in any hurry. Still using my 3 year old Galaxy S4 as the daily workhorse and may get an LG G5. Catch you back here in September and have a good Summer

22-03-2016, 07:23	#73
calico_pie Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 9,428	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Yes it was worth ignoring your err so called points lol Good to know you are aiming to replace the 5S. I was half thinking of getting a SE to replace my 5 but im not in any hurry. Still using my 3 year old Galaxy S4 as the daily workhorse and may get an LG G5. Catch you back here in September and have a good Summer So called points? I love the way you say that as though your point stands and mine made no sense. You just can't quite manage to say what you disagreed with - I guess we all know really you were just talking cobblers.

22-03-2016, 08:23	#74
Icaraa Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,732	Quote: Originally Posted by calico_pie Music used to be the thing that I needed storage for, but that's far less of an issue using Apple Music. With the pricing, shame it wasn't: 32GB - 329 64GB - 399 Are the SE prices the same as the 5S have been? You don't even need to pay for Apple Music though. I don't, I just pay yearly for iTunes Match and all of my music is on iCloud then. That way I can easily get away with a 16Gb iPhone.

22-03-2016, 08:28	#75
JasonWatkins Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 53,670	Quote: Originally Posted by Icaraa You don't even need to pay for Apple Music though. I don't, I just pay yearly for iTunes Match and all of my music is on iCloud then. That way I can easily get away with a 16Gb iPhone. Actually, that's certainly not a bad comparison. £21.99 a year for iTunes match as opposed to £120 a year for Apple Music or even Spotify. Pretty big saving.