I'd bet money on this companion being transgender
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Originally Posted by PaperSkin:
“Surely that's not true, the clip had scenes taken from Into The Dalek in it, there was only one actual Dalek there with them for the skit... Unless they will be taking the back and forth in the corridors bit for a future episode and putting proper scenes around it not footage from a previous episode... but even that seems unlikely to me..
I thought the scenes were quite poor from a directing/writing view and the acting wasn't the best from both either, It felt like it was a relatively quickly put together skit just to announce the companion rather than being scenes from a proper episode... something like the mini-eps they use to do with Matt, you can say those scenes happened but they don't factor into the main series, it would just be some brief encounter with the Daleks (which happens a awful lot for people who are travelling through the un-imaginable vastness of time and space)”
“Surely that's not true, the clip had scenes taken from Into The Dalek in it, there was only one actual Dalek there with them for the skit... Unless they will be taking the back and forth in the corridors bit for a future episode and putting proper scenes around it not footage from a previous episode... but even that seems unlikely to me..
I thought the scenes were quite poor from a directing/writing view and the acting wasn't the best from both either, It felt like it was a relatively quickly put together skit just to announce the companion rather than being scenes from a proper episode... something like the mini-eps they use to do with Matt, you can say those scenes happened but they don't factor into the main series, it would just be some brief encounter with the Daleks (which happens a awful lot for people who are travelling through the un-imaginable vastness of time and space)”
Maybe it's a mistake, and i'd even think it more likely not from an actual episode, but I'm just saying that the official bbc doctor who website is listing it as a scene from an episode.
Originally Posted by Sora2311:
“I'd bet money on this companion being a transvestite”
“I'd bet money on this companion being a transvestite”
I can only apologise to Pearl Mackie should she be excitedly reading this awaiting the reaction of fans
I know it's not likely to happen because there needs to be a female lead (mainly so the show can be gender balanced, IMO), but I would really have liked to see a proper, series(s) long male companion.
Originally Posted by silentNate:
“I can only apologise to Pearl Mackie should she be excitedly reading this awaiting the reaction of fans”
“I can only apologise to Pearl Mackie should she be excitedly reading this awaiting the reaction of fans
”
I'm not saying it because of her looks, I'm saying it based off the name Bill and the fact Capaldi and Moffatt said the new companion would be something unique and unlike previous companions
Pearl on twitter (Don't do it myself, but wondered whether she was on it and had a quick google) "I'm so excited to be the next companion on Doctor Who! Can't wait to join the family! Thank you for all the lovely messages!" (Thankfully not a DS member then!!)
I'm guessing it will be Peter C filming the Xmas special (As Radio Times, who called the companion right, said he was starting filming "this month", what's left of it, and suggested she wasn't in it.) and then she's on board after her run in the play ends.
eta Could be stating the blinking obvious there. ("It's not rocket science, Rory....it's astrophysics!")
I'm guessing it will be Peter C filming the Xmas special (As Radio Times, who called the companion right, said he was starting filming "this month", what's left of it, and suggested she wasn't in it.) and then she's on board after her run in the play ends.
eta Could be stating the blinking obvious there. ("It's not rocket science, Rory....it's astrophysics!")
Originally Posted by Sora2311:
“I'd bet money on this companion being transgender”
“I'd bet money on this companion being transgender”
I'm thinking that too.
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“Maybe it's a mistake, and i'd even think it more likely not from an actual episode, but I'm just saying that the official bbc doctor who website is listing it as a scene from an episode.”
“Maybe it's a mistake, and i'd even think it more likely not from an actual episode, but I'm just saying that the official bbc doctor who website is listing it as a scene from an episode.”
I think its a mistake/misunderstanding/poor communication/website just guessing and not clarifying it with the higher ups.....
mmm Time for my opinion. Not too sure about her as the accent and thick chav personality was putting me off but I'll wait and see I could well be wrong. If that stays its a voice thats likely to make me grind me teeth. Don't know why some people are having a go at Freema Agyeman was a good character and was was a good actress.
Originally Posted by Sora2311:
“I'd bet money on this companion being transgender”
“I'd bet money on this companion being transgender”
And the viewers would depart in droves.
Originally Posted by wolfpaw:
“And the viewers would depart in droves.”
“And the viewers would depart in droves.”
If viewers did depart the show for that reason then I'd say that they would be the sort of fans the show could do without
Originally Posted by los.kav:
“From her clothes, I wonder if she's from the 80s and we finally have a 'historical' companion?”
“From her clothes, I wonder if she's from the 80s and we finally have a 'historical' companion?”
Haven't rewatched, but could be! So, a) that might be interesting, and b) Gawd I'm getting on a bit! Still, I suppose a character from 2015 could be classified as historical. Straws. Clutching.
Anyone know what Bill's T-shirt was? Admittedly was wearing Beatles T-Shirts in the late 80s so that might mean diddly squat, of course.
Originally Posted by silentNate:
“I can only apologise to Pearl Mackie should she be excitedly reading this awaiting the reaction of fans”
“I can only apologise to Pearl Mackie should she be excitedly reading this awaiting the reaction of fans
”
I'm sure she would have been warned against reading fan sites, as all cast members are, and quite rightly: anyone who works on the show should stay well away from them unless they have an incredibly thick skin (not literally).
I've never seen her before so can't really say much about her. She's fits the basic criteria: young female, so nothing controversial.
I currently know nothing about her whatsoever except her appearance so that's all I can comment on, incredibly shallow as it may be, and she's a bit of a come down from Karen Gillan and Jenna Coleman. She's very RTD let's say
I'm sure she will be good. They haven't cast a companion who didn't work yet.
To counter the tone here, I think she could be brilliant! I loved Clara, but a breath of fresh air is what is needed and Bill seems very different to either Clara or Amy before her.
Some people are speculating we may be getting a transgender character, and I think that would be a massively bold step for the show to take, especially given its success. I mean it was trending worldwide on Tumblr, and still is in both the UK and the US on Twitter - garnering three times more tweets than the next most popular topic of discussion. One cast member change is considered massive news.
As for those complaining about the production values here, and the script... give them a break. Because that's exactly what this is. There was no expectation of any actual footage today, only a companion announcement. The fact that they opted to have a bit of fun with it and film something and give the fans something that was a bit of a surprise is brilliant! The clip sat by itself in the middle of a big sporting event - if there is still any doubt that the BBC for all its faults does still care about the show.
So that's my two cents - optimism. You really can't get much from this other than the identity of the new actress. They had a bit of fun with it, and I'm going to see the best of that rather than complaining irrationally that the show is doomed, or proclaiming that I am giving up on it. Roll on Series 10!
Some people are speculating we may be getting a transgender character, and I think that would be a massively bold step for the show to take, especially given its success. I mean it was trending worldwide on Tumblr, and still is in both the UK and the US on Twitter - garnering three times more tweets than the next most popular topic of discussion. One cast member change is considered massive news.
As for those complaining about the production values here, and the script... give them a break. Because that's exactly what this is. There was no expectation of any actual footage today, only a companion announcement. The fact that they opted to have a bit of fun with it and film something and give the fans something that was a bit of a surprise is brilliant! The clip sat by itself in the middle of a big sporting event - if there is still any doubt that the BBC for all its faults does still care about the show.
So that's my two cents - optimism. You really can't get much from this other than the identity of the new actress. They had a bit of fun with it, and I'm going to see the best of that rather than complaining irrationally that the show is doomed, or proclaiming that I am giving up on it. Roll on Series 10!
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“Anyone know what Bill's T-shirt was? Admittedly was wearing Beatles T-Shirts in the late 80s so that might mean diddly squat, of course.”
“Anyone know what Bill's T-shirt was? Admittedly was wearing Beatles T-Shirts in the late 80s so that might mean diddly squat, of course.”
I believe it was a Prince t-shirt...which is oddly fitting given the news this week.
Originally Posted by Verence:
“If viewers did depart the show for that reason then I'd say that they would be the sort of fans the show could do without”
“If viewers did depart the show for that reason then I'd say that they would be the sort of fans the show could do without”
Shoehorning a transsexual character into a kids show like Dr Who would be unforgivable.
Originally Posted by wolfpaw:
“Shoehorning a transsexual character into a kids show like Dr Who would be unforgivable.”
“Shoehorning a transsexual character into a kids show like Dr Who would be unforgivable.”
Oh, here we go.
Originally Posted by Verence:
“If viewers did depart the show for that reason then I'd say that they would be the sort of fans the show could do without”
“If viewers did depart the show for that reason then I'd say that they would be the sort of fans the show could do without”
Lol. Very noble sentiment, but the BBC can't really afford to be so high minded. Doctor Who is a very important franchise for them.
But she won't be transgendered anyway and it's a very silly, Guardian type sentiment to suggest she might be. Unfortunately, that type of personality equates everyone other than white heterosexual males with being some interchangeable form of tokenism: hence these silly kinds of comments. "Well, she's black, so why not a transgendered werewolf with acromegly. It's practically the same thing!"
The production team are far too good to do something as disruptive as that. It would overshadow everything else they did and would take all of the focus away from the other storylines. Moffat and co are just far too savvy to let the essence of Doctor Who be submerged by some sort of high-minded agenda. The show needs to be about 'adventure in Time and Space', with a helping of melodrama. They know that. Giving such a trait to the character would push her and the show far too much in the latter direction.
I also think Moffat is too good a writer for the character to be some kind of coarse, unlikeable chav.
Originally Posted by PaperSkin:
“Why Martha, Bill doesn't seem to have any similar character traits to Mart..... Oh, your talking about her skin, same skin colour so she's the same as Martha.
Pathetic.
Was Amy the same as Rose because they are both white, was Donna and Amy the same because of their hair colour....”
“Why Martha, Bill doesn't seem to have any similar character traits to Mart..... Oh, your talking about her skin, same skin colour so she's the same as Martha.
Pathetic.
Was Amy the same as Rose because they are both white, was Donna and Amy the same because of their hair colour....”
Clara was similar to Amy... because she had the same writer
So my guess is that this character will have some similar traits too. She's already got Clara's shoes.
Originally Posted by wolfpaw:
“Shoehorning a transsexual character into a kids show like Dr Who would be unforgivable.”
“Shoehorning a transsexual character into a kids show like Dr Who would be unforgivable.”
how so? there's nothing at all wrong with being transgender, would be good to give kids that message.
Originally Posted by wolfpaw:
“Shoehorning a transsexual character into a kids show like Dr Who would be unforgivable.”
“Shoehorning a transsexual character into a kids show like Dr Who would be unforgivable.”
Yeah, just like the way RTD 'shoehorned' characters that were gay in his run. Totally unforgivable to show kids normal people in such a popular show. Where's the roll eyes smiley when you need it.
Originally Posted by Stig:
“I agree, the first impression is pretty irritating. The whole world now thinks that the British either speak with a Scottish or estuary accent.”
“I agree, the first impression is pretty irritating. The whole world now thinks that the British either speak with a Scottish or estuary accent.”
I am disappointed. It seems the same as Donna's first appearance. I would like someone like Romana. Every new companion has to be taught the same thing: it's bigger on the inside!
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