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Nadyia's on Extra Slice tonight. Will be interesting to hear what she has to say and if she compares her time in the tent with the experiences of this year's contestants.
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She was very good. Not patronising, happy and very natural interacting with the other panellists, Selasi and the audience. I especially liked that she gave a thumbs up and brilliant smile to one of the studio bakers.
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Haven't seen it yet as away but she not going to say anything controversial as she has a contract with the BBC, she will toe the party line.
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Who do we think is going to win then - for me it's the following:
Hope - Andrew (he's so sweet) Think - Jane - it's all in the editing.... Wouldn't mind even if Candice won, she's mellowed over the weeks and grown on me a bit. |
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I caught up with an extra slice too, with Selasi and Nadiya that episode.
This is going to be controversial what I'm going to say, but I will bring it up again, I think we discussed it already here, about Selasi being the next Paul Hollywood, with Mel and Sue as the hosts and Mary Berry as the 2nd judge. Someone suggested it on here and I was all for it as I thought he could slip into that Paul Hollywood role very nicely. We won't miss Paul at all, if the BBC are planning a similar show there on their channel... they found the replacement. Similarly thinking along the same lines the extra slice show mentioned it twice in this show as well. However on here, when we discussed it before some person mentioned no his not the right sort to replace Paul, I suppose Paul has the Baker experience from way back as his father introduced him to baking bread and his like a Bread specialist and written books about Bread too. But does that matter? Thinking about Nadiya I agree, she was very good, and kind to the studio baker they chose to sample the food, unlike the other Japanese/Chinese/Korean woman which was on there a couple of episodes ago, she seemed to want to be very controversial, she told the studio bakers all their stuff was crap, dry etc. By the way for Nadiya they chose a studio baker that had made bacon stuff for two of her tiers and only one tier with none bacon stuff and Nadiya like a trooper tasted the none bacon stuff (cheese puffs) I tell you as a muslim its difficult to swallow when you are that close to bacon, the smell, that none muslims like but for us its nauseating, but she did well the extra slice team threw her a noose to hang herself with here either accept the bacon close by and eat the cheese stuff and smile etc or cause a drama but she avoided the noose... ![]() Now I want to talk about studio bakers, did you see that woman which had marzipan covered fruits, apparently they weren't fruits at all but cakes covered in marzipan and painted to look like fruits thats amazing I'm sure they were edible because she brought them along there, surely they could have cut into a few of them and shown us because all of us saw the contestants struggle with the marzipan showstoppers. Candice's peacock and Jane's square cake were the highlights but perhaps they is hope from seeing the studio bakers that bake off is not over they haven't reached the bottom of the talent pool like many were fond of saying on here, that the ones they chose this year weren't up to par with previous years and they've reached the bottom of the barrel now. No look at the studio bakers that sit in that middle area with their bakes they have made in that week, some are truly stunning like the marzipan fruits. Perhaps she applied to be on the show but wasn't chosen because she was not batty or had any quirks hopefully next year she will be chosen and she can also showcase her talent. |
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Who do we think is going to win then - for me it's the following:
Hope - Andrew (he's so sweet) Think - Jane - it's all in the editing.... Wouldn't mind even if Candice won, she's mellowed over the weeks and grown on me a bit. This year I feel a bit meh about the whole thing. They're all ok bakers but I don't feel very invested in any if them and I don't feel much of a thrill about tonight. If I was forced to pick I'd say I'd prefer Andrew. |
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Last year I felt much more invested in the show. I loved two of the finalists (Nadiya and Tamal who I had a major crush on!) and had a lot of respect for the third whose name has escaped me. I was over the moon Nadiya won and blubbed along with her and Mary.
This year I feel a bit meh about the whole thing. They're all ok bakers but I don't feel very invested in any if them and I don't feel much of a thrill about tonight. If I was forced to pick I'd say I'd prefer Andrew. Who is going to win, I think Candice, she's been star baker most then everyone and survived to the final, in previous years when you have someone have star baker so many times and he fails to get into the final but this year she managed to get there. I think if her bakes are good on the day she will win it. Andrew also is shining as he won star baker last time, so we wait what tonight's episode is going to bring for us. If they don't have any disaster it will be one of those two i think. Jane very competent baker but she hasn't had a wow bake yet. Maybe she's planned something spectacular for her showstopper even better then Candice or Andrew, if she managed to do that then she will get into the mix also but right now I think the other two.. |
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This is going to be controversial what I'm going to say, but I will bring it up again, I think we discussed it already here, about Selasi being the next Paul Hollywood, with Mel and Sue as the hosts and Mary Berry as the 2nd judge. Someone suggested it on here and I was all for it as I thought he could slip into that Paul Hollywood role very nicely. We won't miss Paul at all, if the BBC are planning a similar show there on their channel... they found the replacement. .
Selasi is a stockbroker who proved himself proficient in cake icing but other than that was on pretty ropey ground quite often and didn't even make the final, let alone win the thing. Do you really think Selasi is in position to judge (for example) the bakes this evening being done by three people who were, frankly, obviously better than him at 99% of baking. Nadiya could maybe be a judge because she was (IMO) in the top three bakers the show has ever had. But Selasi is a replacement for Paul the same way I'm a replacement for Jose Mourinho. I've played 'football manager' on the computer after all... |
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This is going to be controversial what I'm going to say, but I will bring it up again, I think we discussed it already here, about Selasi being the next Paul Hollywood, with Mel and Sue as the hosts and Mary Berry as the 2nd judge.
![]() Selasi, like Nadiya, may very well make a passable, likeable presenter of TV fluff pieces, but how can anyone seriously think he's at Paul Hollywood's level of baking skill? The fact that he stayed in as long as he did is more down to good fortune than great baking. I don't rate Nadiya as being up there with Paul and Mary either, but at least she won it to give her an ounce of credibility.
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This is going to be controversial what I'm going to say, but I will bring it up again, I think we discussed it already here, about Selasi being the next Paul Hollywood, with Mel and Sue as the hosts and Mary Berry as the 2nd judge. Someone suggested it on here and I was all for it as I thought he could slip into that Paul Hollywood role very nicely. We won't miss Paul at all, if the BBC are planning a similar show there on their channel... they found the replacement. Similarly thinking along the same lines the extra slice show mentioned it twice in this show as well. However on here, when we discussed it before some person mentioned no his not the right sort to replace Paul, I suppose Paul has the Baker experience from way back as his father introduced him to baking bread and his like a Bread specialist and written books about Bread too. But does that matter?
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You see this is the way someone else or was it you earlier said no his not suitable. Selasi replacing Paul if the BBC are going to go down the route of making a similar show, say they could find a way without being sued.
I don't agree that the other 3 can do 99% better then him at baking. Because look at the episodes before. Are you going now to say that these 3 here in the final did not have shaky moments prior to now, genoise sponge failures by Candice, when Benjamina, Selasi and Tom aced the genoise last time he tried it? Also Andrew he was always having disasters even his marzipan showcase was also a disaster and there is a clip of Paul and the hosts laughing at him as its presented....So I disagree that they can make 99% more baking then Selasi. You are wrong on that one. There is something else I wanted to say also about Sue mentioning to Andrew about Darwinism that he being the one more evolved then Selasi he needs to pull through and Selasi to come out that week in semi final......reading how you replied and how others reply I have a feeling the reason why you all resisting this Selasi replacing Paul is for the same reason, speaking plainly.
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...I suppose Paul has the Baker experience from way back as his father introduced him to baking bread and his like a Bread specialist and written books about Bread too. But does that matter?
Does long experience and excellence matter ? Yes, of course it does. I cannot see any reason to suggest that Selasi has - at this stage in his baking career - any qualification at all to be the BBC's Paul Hollywood replacement even if the BBC does go down the route of a Bake-Off lookalike. I'd even say that no Bake-Off contestant, winner or not - including Nadiya, much as I like her - has the experience, the track record - to replace Paul and Mary.It's the difference between talented amateurs and accomplished, experienced professionals. |
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Nadyia is a judge on the junior bake off show, and that's fine, but I'm not sure she's had enough experience to be a judge on an adult version. She definitely has a career in TV. Definitely not Selasi as a judge. Can you see it? "It's all collapsed, but it tastes OK. I like it even though it's raw in the middle. Spicy beef burger and orange together is good." Quote:
Isn't the programme also made by Love Productions so they are not going to let any criticism of them or Channel 4 get through the editing.
They did let mention through. Think it was Jpsh Widdecombe who said that they'd got the competitors for the next series in the studio with the bakers who'd brought stuff in, and then added "We're not supposed to mention that.". |
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There is something else I wanted to say also about Sue mentioning to Andrew about Darwinism that he being the one more evolved then Selasi he needs to pull through and Selasi to come out that week in semi final......reading how you replied and how others reply I have a feeling the reason why you all resisting this Selasi replacing Paul is for the same reason, speaking plainly.
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There is something else I wanted to say also about Sue mentioning to Andrew about Darwinism that he being the one more evolved then Selasi he needs to pull through and Selasi to come out that week in semi final......reading how you replied and how others reply I have a feeling the reason why you all resisting this Selasi replacing Paul is for the same reason, speaking plainly.
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This is nonsense. By Darwinism she was referring to 'survival of the fittest' - i.e. only the best go through. She mentioned nothing about Andrew being 'more evolved' - that's an invention on your part. Your insinuation that racism is the only reason people are opposing a baker who wasn't good enough to get to the final should be the new judge is clutching at straws.
How do you know she made that remark in that context and not the other? Are you her? You aren't right? So you don't know what she meant when she said to Andrew that he must go through to the semi final and not Selasi because of Darwinism. But in either case if she meant that Andrew is the fittest baker I think he had a good week and somehow Selasi failed miserably in the semi final and it was right for him to leave and the other three to go into the final. Because you are judged on what happened only on that day, not previous weeks, Candice didn't have a disaster with her bake, Andrew didn't have a disaster with his bake, and Jane didn't have a disaster on that semi but Selasi did on the day. Survival of the fittest on the day. But you may think its wrong for me to say that the reason I feel you all are against him taking up a job (if they is a job going in the first place at the BBC) is because you all think in the same Darwinism way but Sue...I love her she's funny, but why did she have to choose to say that and it didn't get chopped in editing? I know she's just being naughty and they probably left it in so they can be laughing now as we hash this one out on social media.
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Nadiya could maybe be a judge because she was (IMO) in the top three bakers the show has ever had. But Selasi is a replacement for Paul the same way I'm a replacement for Jose Mourinho. I've played 'football manager' on the computer after all...
I think she also acknowledges her inexperience and would not pretend to know more than she does as some might do. |
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How do you know she made that remark in that context and not the other? Are you her? You aren't right? So you don't know what she meant when she said to Andrew that he must go through to the semi final and not Selasi because of Darwinism. But in either case if she meant that Andrew is the fittest baker I think he had a good week and somehow Selasi failed miserably in the semi final and it was right for him to leave and the other three to go into the final. Because you are judged on what happened only on that day, not previous weeks, Candice didn't have a disaster with her bake, Andrew didn't have a disaster with his bake, and Jane didn't have a disaster on that semi but Selasi did on the day. Survival of the fittest on the day.
But you may think its wrong for me to say that the reason I feel you all are against him taking up a job (if they is a job going in the first place at the BBC) is because you all think in the same Darwinism way but Sue...I love her she's funny, but why did she have to choose to say that and it didn't get chopped in editing? I know she's just being naughty and they probably left it in so they can be laughing now as we hash this one out on social media. ![]() Why do people insist on looking for racism where none exists? |
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This is going to be controversial what I'm going to say, but I will bring it up again, I think we discussed it already here, about Selasi being the next Paul Hollywood, with Mel and Sue as the hosts and Mary Berry as the 2nd judge. Someone suggested it on here and I was all for it as I thought he could slip into that Paul Hollywood role very nicely. We won't miss Paul at all, if the BBC are planning a similar show there on their channel... they found the replacement. Similarly thinking along the same lines the extra slice show mentioned it twice in this show as well. However on here, when we discussed it before some person mentioned no his not the right sort to replace Paul, I suppose Paul has the Baker experience from way back as his father introduced him to baking bread and his like a Bread specialist and written books about Bread too. But does that matter?
I'm a dab hand at pastry but that does not qualify me to judge on this show and certainly Selasi is not qualified to do so. It matters a lot if someone has the relevant baking experience and background surely? Personally, I don't see what he has that has some people fawning all over him. Nice guy, that's about it
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Nadiya does not have the depth of knowledge of Hollywood but she seems a fast learner and I would think people would respect her opinions whilst judging. She also now has a high profile which would aid a replacement programme. Mary Berry also seems to like her so they could make a good partnership.
I think she also acknowledges her inexperience and would not pretend to know more than she does as some might do. |
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How do you know she made that remark in that context and not the other? Are you her? You aren't right? So you don't know what she meant when she said to Andrew that he must go through to the semi final and not Selasi because of Darwinism. But in either case if she meant that Andrew is the fittest baker I think he had a good week and somehow Selasi failed miserably in the semi final and it was right for him to leave and the other three to go into the final. Because you are judged on what happened only on that day, not previous weeks, Candice didn't have a disaster with her bake, Andrew didn't have a disaster with his bake, and Jane didn't have a disaster on that semi but Selasi did on the day. Survival of the fittest on the day.
But you may think its wrong for me to say that the reason I feel you all are against him taking up a job (if they is a job going in the first place at the BBC) is because you all think in the same Darwinism way but Sue...I love her she's funny, but why did she have to choose to say that and it didn't get chopped in editing? I know she's just being naughty and they probably left it in so they can be laughing now as we hash this one out on social media. ![]() Darwinism: "all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce." Andrew clearly had ideas that the others didn't and wouldn't have had - the ferris wheel and the cogs turning for presentation being two of them. Selasi just didn't have the skill to go through when compared with the other three. |
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The only people who see racism in this situation are those who look for it. It wasn't there.
Darwinism: "all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce." Andrew clearly had ideas that the others didn't and wouldn't have had - the ferris wheel and the cogs turning for presentation being two of them. Selasi just didn't have the skill to go through when compared with the other three. If somebody is very pro Selasi could we accuse them of being gingerist, anti-Irish, ageist or sexist? Of course not that would be daft. Loads of us wanted Selasi to stay in for much of the series until it got to the point where we thought his capabilities weren't up there with the rest. |
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You see this is the way someone else or was it you earlier said no his not suitable. Selasi replacing Paul if the BBC are going to go down the route of making a similar show, say they could find a way without being sued.
I don't agree that the other 3 can do 99% better then him at baking. Because look at the episodes before. Are you going now to say that these 3 here in the final did not have shaky moments prior to now, genoise sponge failures by Candice, when Benjamina, Selasi and Tom aced the genoise last time he tried it? Also Andrew he was always having disasters even his marzipan showcase was also a disaster and there is a clip of Paul and the hosts laughing at him as its presented....So I disagree that they can make 99% more baking then Selasi. You are wrong on that one. There is something else I wanted to say also about Sue mentioning to Andrew about Darwinism that he being the one more evolved then Selasi he needs to pull through and Selasi to come out that week in semi final......reading how you replied and how others reply I have a feeling the reason why you all resisting this Selasi replacing Paul is for the same reason, speaking plainly. ![]() Jane, I kind of think she has stayed at roughly the same level as when she started so can she take that step further. I am not so sure Candice, the one who I don't want to win, the pouting is starting to grate on me. Yes she is a good baker but has her journey been greater than Andrew's Andrew would be my choice to win, the consistent improvement, no pouting from him |
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Mixed emotions about tonight.
Excited it's the Final but sad it is the end of a beautiful era. ![]() I hope Andrew wins, him and Selasi were my faves from day One. And as I got a tweet off Andrew, I love him even more now! ![]() 2nd choice is Jane. 3rd choice. Pouty McPoutFace Be nice to see all of the other contestants tonight.
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I know it's already been filmed but good luck to everyone for tonight - the bakers, the judges, the presenters and all the crew.
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The fact that he stayed in as long as he did is more down to good fortune than great baking. I don't rate Nadiya as being up there with Paul and Mary either, but at least she won it to give her an ounce of credibility.
