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Old 12-09-2016, 20:39
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Pfft! While channel 4 is minutely better than ITV (and that's still not good!) I just don't see any good outcome for this. Well, the only one would be if they got Mel, Sue, Mary and Paul and didn't change the format at all. If they did all that I could just about handle the ad breaks. But I don't see all of that happening.

Love Productions really are getting a earful on Twitter. I wonder how dry the ink on this deal is. Are they now sitting somewhere thinking "WTF have we done?".
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Old 12-09-2016, 20:40
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I wonder how much CH4 paid?
Probably more than they should, given the likely viewing figures they'll get.
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Old 12-09-2016, 20:41
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Pfft! While channel 4 is minutely better than ITV (and that's still not good!) I just don't see any good outcome for this. Well, the only one would be if they got Mel, Sue, Mary and Paul and didn't change the format at all. If they did all that I could just about handle the ad breaks. But I don't see all of that happening.

Love Productions really are getting a earful on Twitter. I wonder how dry the ink on this deal is. Are they now sitting somewhere thinking "WTF have we done?".
13 million viewers to 3 million viewers, must've offered a big amount
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Old 12-09-2016, 20:42
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Channel 4...hmmmm

Let's see if Paul, Mary, Mel n Sue go.
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:02
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I've loved the show since the first series but this will be the last GBBO series that I watch. I know this is not a nice thing to say but I sincerely hope that the show flops on Channel 4.

I pray that Mel, Sue, Mary and Paul don't make the move to Channel 4. Starting with a celebrity version of the show is just madness. I can imagine the calibre of the celebrities that will feature and I am already cringing at the thought of it.
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:04
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Channel 4...hmmmm

Let's see if Paul, Mary, Mel n Sue go.
I can seem them offering a lot of money to keep them all on board
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:06
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Anyone else feel like all this news has put a dampener on the current series?
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:08
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I wonder if they'll have product placement, with everyone using the same brands of ingredients, the packaging displaced on the tables...
'Asda Smart Price Fat Spread', 'Morrisons Value Tomato Ketchup' and 'Sainsbury's Basics Factory Eggs'.
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:13
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What's the big deal? I don't get why people wouldn't still watch just because its changing channels? Am I missing something? Can t you just tape it and fast forward the ads? I didn't know people still watched live TV these days.
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:15
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I'm trying to think of who they could get to present and judge the show if the currents presenters and judges don't move across and I'm coming up blank
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:17
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What's the big deal? I don't get why people wouldn't still watch just because its changing channels? Am I missing something? Can t you just tape it and fast forward the ads? I didn't know people still watched live TV these days.
A 1 hour show will be cut down to 40 minutes and possibly less given how many times we'll have the following in each episode:

Recap of last weeks show
5 minutes of baking related stand-up material from Alan Carr
Dramatic music to introduce the judges
'Coming up after the break'
'Before the break'
'Next week on GBBO'

I'd say that you'll probably end up with about 25 minutes of actual baking related content
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:18
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I'm trying to think of who they could get to present and judge the show if the currents presenters and judges don't move across and I'm coming up blank
Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May.

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Old 12-09-2016, 21:19
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Oh god, I can see Sarah Millican being one of the presenters. She certainly looks like she likes her cakes, pies and biscuits
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:35
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What's the big deal? I don't get why people wouldn't still watch just because its changing channels? Am I missing something? Can t you just tape it and fast forward the ads? I didn't know people still watched live TV these days.
what a silly comment given Bake Offs ten million plus overnight (ie, 'live') viewing figures. Channel 4 would hardly have paid millions for the show if 'no-one watched lived TV these days'

A sad day for Bake Off. And a very bad fit. I can't think of anything that makes Channel 4 the right home for the Bake Off. No love for Love Productions in this house.
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:36
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After reading this article, I wonder if Mary is happy at the thought of moving to Ch4.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...iscussion.html
|'d love to hear that interview in full - Mary's choice of wording is fascinating, in light of the decision. You've got to think that the presenters were all informed ahead of the press release, and they must have known the series was very possibly on it's way out of the BBC, the way the negotiations had been going so badly!

They all have contracts, of some description, with Love Productions, but it's pretty unclear at this point if those contracts were directly linked to the show being on the BBC, and the contracts perhaps becoming essentially void with a channel move.

As for the celeb version coming next year, it sounds like that's the way C4 are getting round that 1 year 'cool off clause' that prevents them showing the normal version for a full year after it's end on BBC1. I'd still expect the BBC to challenge that attempt to circumvent their clause which protects their BBC show for a little longer, before another channel destroys 7 years of good work.

I mean, C4 has historically had decent food shows - Jamie Oliver and Gordon Ramsay had decent shows on the channel, as well as Hugh F-W's River Cottage and the like. But C4 has never done this kind of mainstream show - at least not very well, and certainly not recently. The ratings are likely to be good - for C4 - but appalling in light of the BBC's numbers this year.
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:49
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|'d love to hear that interview in full - Mary's choice of wording is fascinating, in light of the decision. You've got to think that the presenters were all informed ahead of the press release, and they must have known the series was very possibly on it's way out of the BBC, the way the negotiations had been going so badly!

They all have contracts, of some description, with Love Productions, but it's pretty unclear at this point if those contracts were directly linked to the show being on the BBC, and the contracts perhaps becoming essentially void with a channel move.

As for the celeb version coming next year, it sounds like that's the way C4 are getting round that 1 year 'cool off clause' that prevents them showing the normal version for a full year after it's end on BBC1. I'd still expect the BBC to challenge that attempt to circumvent their clause which protects their BBC show for a little longer, before another channel destroys 7 years of good work.

I mean, C4 has historically had decent food shows - Jamie Oliver and Gordon Ramsay had decent shows on the channel, as well as Hugh F-W's River Cottage and the like. But C4 has never done this kind of mainstream show - at least not very well, and certainly not recently. The ratings are likely to be good - for C4 - but appalling in light of the BBC's numbers this year.
We don't know the ins and outs of the deal though. This series will finish when? Mid-October? So the celeb version could be shown after the same date in mid-October 2017. That would fit in with Stand Up To Cancer.
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:56
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what a silly comment given Bake Offs ten million plus overnight (ie, 'live') viewing figures. Channel 4 would hardly have paid millions for the show if 'no-one watched lived TV these days'

A sad day for Bake Off. And a very bad fit. I can't think of anything that makes Channel 4 the right home for the Bake Off. No love for Love Productions in this house.
A sad day for bake off? Good Lord, talk about dramatic.
Where would you have preferred it to go to exact!y and why shouldn't love productions get as much as they can? The BBC is not the only channel out there. The days of having 3 or 4 channels is thankfully well in the past.
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Old 12-09-2016, 21:58
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Yes just seen, with a celebrity version to start in .2017
There has already been the comic relief celebrity version of Bake Off, so thats not a new concept,but I am trying to imagine how they will pull this off with all the advert breaks they will seriously have to cut down the baking content.
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Old 12-09-2016, 22:05
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I'm actually really pissed off at this development. Bake Off should not be broadcast with commercials IMO. Trust the BBC to fudge things up. They'll probably change everything now & replace Mary & Paul with someone else.
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Old 12-09-2016, 22:06
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Last series I shall watch then.
I'll make the most of this series and leave it there. Sounds like greed to me.
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Old 12-09-2016, 22:11
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I hope they keep Mary and Paul and they don't mess with the format too much. Bake Off doesn't need manufactured controversy (Baked Alaskagate was a little too controversial for Bake Off ) or a diary room where contestants slag each other off.
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Old 12-09-2016, 22:14
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Last series I shall watch then.
I'll make the most of this series and leave it there. Sounds like greed to me.
Would you watch it if it was exactly the same just with ad breaks?
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Old 12-09-2016, 22:15
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Apparently there's going to be 40 hours of gbbo a year on channel 4, talk about overkill
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Old 12-09-2016, 22:18
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Absolute pisstake. Fuming !! hate you love productions

Way to wreck this monster of a show. Adverts! Oh joy! It's a BBC type show through and bloody through.
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Old 12-09-2016, 22:19
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What's the big deal? I don't get why people wouldn't still watch just because its changing channels? Am I missing something? Can t you just tape it and fast forward the ads? I didn't know people still watched live TV these days.
what a silly comment given Bake Offs ten million plus overnight (ie, 'live') viewing figures. Channel 4 would hardly have paid millions for the show if 'no-one watched lived TV these days'

A sad day for Bake Off. And a very bad fit. I can't think of anything that makes Channel 4 the right home for the Bake Off. No love for Love Productions in this house.
It's not silly at all. I don't know anyone who watches most of their TV as it is first broadcast, Most, like me, watch it on Demand, iPlayer, ITV hub and mostly on my TV's Tivo recording.... early evening is not a good time for me to be in front of the telly.
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