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Struggling to engage with Hollyoaks any more.
I used to love watching this, but the storylines have become increasingly ridiculous lately, and the unmasking of Lindsey (previously one of my favourite characters) as a serial killer is another nail in the coffin of what used to be a good show. Nowadays, I'm sitting through each episode, only paying half attention to it. The writing used to be so much better and character-focused, but it's become so sensational and over-the-top. How can there be so many serial killers in one small area? I would no longer feel upset if the show was axed now.
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I used to love watching this, but the storylines have become increasingly ridiculous lately, and the unmasking of Lindsey (previously one of my favourite characters) as a serial killer is another nail in the coffin of what used to be a good show. Nowadays, I'm sitting through each episode, only paying half attention to it. The writing used to be so much better and character-focused, but it's become so sensational and over-the-top. How can there be so many serial killers in one small area? I would no longer feel upset if the show was axed now.
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I've been struggling to engage with it for about 3 years now, so your doing better than me lol
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It hasn't been consistently good for a couple of years now. Even in 2014 you had blocks of good episodes but now you're lucky if you get the odd decent ep. I'd hate for it to be axed and tbh I doubt it would be, unless the viewing figures went really low (remember last summer an episode went under half the normal amount of viewers and there were articles about it being in a crisis?). What I hate though is the hospital focus, it's not needed and I wish there was more students rather than either young teenagers or adults. There are only a few storylines that are worth watching at the moment, and even the ones I did like (such as the McQueens abuse) have sensationalist nonsensical twists chucked in (like when Reenie ran over Pete and it was a whodunnit). There's barely any comedy, apart from the odd liner from Simone as otherwise the supposed 'comedy' is over the top, camp and like some badly acted panto, like the scenes with Myra and Diego.
Hollyoaks have some very good actors and actresses who seem to make even the worst storylines bearable, such as Sally St Clair being John Paul's father, that's saved by excellent acting from Annie Wallace and also Nicole Barber Lane. But it's the writing, poor and ill thought out storylines, sensationalist nonsense and supposed shock twists that what make Hollyoaks bad. That and Kirkwood being insistent on making us like Freddie, NEVER gonne happen.
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I think although HO is bonkers it's the one soap that doesn't really have 'filler' episodes, there is always something going on.
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Jade and Alfie's cancer storyline is the best part of the show at the moment.
I really like Trevor and Sienna, but it ideally needs Nico and Ben written out. Anna Passey deserves a good storyline. Still on the fence about Sally/John Paul. The Cleo/Pete storyline WAS good, but with Reenie in prison (hopefully she's back full time at the end of this) and Porsche gone it has been missing its best character. Everything else is terrible. |
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Kirkwood has overstayed his welcome and then some.
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They should axe HO and bring back BS imo.
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I no longer look forward to it. It's something to be endured rather than enjoyed!
I think the show will burn itself out soon. It is also daft the way they turn characters gay, then straight, then gay again. It seems now that it is any excuse for male characters to take their clothes off (even old Jack the other evening) and Harry spent a whole episode with no shirt on. It has become very predictable. |
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I think the problem is that it's hard to care about the characters because the writing for them is all over the place. I'm gutted they ruined Lindsey, turning her into a psychopath. I really liked how down to earth she was.
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The problem is there are too many characters that don't appear for a few episodes and you don't even realise which says a lot. They focus on a big storyline for a while and then you won't see anything about it for a couple of weeks and to be honest I've forgotten the last thing they did; whether they've gone somewhere for a while or just vanished from the script. I can't for the life of me think what has happened to Robbie/Jason/Holly/Maxine etc.
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Nodding in agreement with every single commment so far which have more or less nailed the shocking state that the show is in.
How many more deaths/murders/kidnaps/blackmail/affairs/infidelity/sexuality/illness/angst stories can they recycle? I know these appear to be the staple of every soap these days but with Hollyoaks there appears to be no limit, and these are the main feature of EVERY single episode, week in, week out. All of the serious issues that they attempt to tackle usually begin well before quickly descending into farce - Maxine's abuse and John Paul's rape being prime examples, terribly handled and a huge insult to the charities that the programme has supposedly worked alongside in putting together their stories. The latest serious issue to be ridiculed and made a mockery of is homelessness, how do they get away with it? Even Lindsey's supposed split-personality disorder is treated as a joke and they are using it as a vehicle for her to commit terrible crimes that have so far gone completely unnoticed. Hollyoaks has run its course whilst doing extra laps on a loop without any tyre changes. Surely it's going to run out of fuel before it limps across the inevitable finish line? There's only so many stories a soap can tell. To repeatedly tell them in identical ways because the writers can't be bothered to come up with ANYTHING original (they are all guilty of it but none more so than Hollyoaks) is nothing but pure laziness and a pathetic attempt to appease us incredibly bored and frustrated viewers. BK clearly isn't going anywhere either which rams home the fact even more that there's no way back for this sorry saga. I plan to see out the GHK tedium before deciding whether or not I can stomach any more. I long for the halls and students, real stories, a bit of natural comedy and some sort of normality to return, but sadly, I think it is safe to say that it isn't going to happen and I think that the show is a lost cause. It's a shame that the life has been sucked out of it by BK in favour of sensationalist non stop drama and utter nonsense
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I started watching in late 2006 and the past few years just feel like a completely different show. It was never the best but i always looked forward to watching it now i just think what over the top tripe are they going to show tonight
![]() Long gone are the days of real stories like hannah's anorexia and such. The fact the village is full of killers and criminals doesn't help at all. |
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Warren (again) - why?
![]() BK is desperate and needs to realise his glory days are long gone. Bringing back characters from the past isn't going to change that. Let me guess, Warren has got something on Grace or Trevor or is connected to her never-mentioned-before incoming brothers somehow and a showdown/blackmail plot will ensue. Either that or Mercedes has hooked up with Warren on her travels and dragged him back to pop and say hello to all the newbies as barely any of them know who he is and will give him a lovely warm welcome on his return ![]() What idiotic scheme has BK cooked up to more than likely ruin this already ruined character beyond all recognition? If bringing back Warren is a nod to the past and an attempt to get viewers on side it's yet another fail. |
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Warren (again) - why?
![]() BK is desperate and needs to realise his glory days are long gone. Bringing back characters from the past isn't going to change that. Let me guess, Warren has got something on Grace or Trevor or is connected to her never-mentioned-before incoming brothers somehow and a showdown/blackmail plot will ensue. Either that or Mercedes has hooked up with Warren on her travels and dragged him back to pop and say hello to all the newbies as barely any of them know who he is and will give him a lovely warm welcome on his return ![]() What idiotic scheme has BK cooked up to more than likely ruin this already ruined character beyond all recognition? If bringing back Warren is a nod to the past and an attempt to get viewers on side it's yet another fail. |
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To be honest, i don't remember a time when Hollyoaks wasn't ridiculous. You can tell that this show is aimed at teens and early 20's. Most people tend to move away from it the older they get because they get fed up with how stupid it is.
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The show is on its knees at the moment.
It won't reach the end of the decade, it's lucky if it gets 2 more years. |
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To be honest, i don't remember a time when Hollyoaks wasn't ridiculous. You can tell that this show is aimed at teens and early 20's. Most people tend to move away from it the older they get because they get fed up with how stupid it is.
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I think the problem is that it's hard to care about the characters because the writing for them is all over the place. I'm gutted they ruined Lindsey, turning her into a psychopath. I really liked how down to earth she was.
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I think the problem is that it's hard to care about the characters because the writing for them is all over the place. I'm gutted they ruined Lindsey, turning her into a psychopath. I really liked how down to earth she was.
The GHK is such a wasted storyline as it was dynamite to begin with, but with every killing that took place the more and more weak it got. The execution of the reveal was disappointingly poor and the untimely death of Dr S'Avage was also a huge loss. He and Cindy deserved to have Lindsey banged to rights, but now it seems it will all come down to the fact that she originally helped to protect Mercedes and Cindy from being held to account for the murder of Dr Browning. Judging by the trailer, I'm guessing that unless they keep Lindsey's secret hidden, they too will be in the hyperdermic firing line - together with a further sinister threat that Silas will get rid of them himself in an effort to protect Lindsey. I am convinced that Mercedes will indeed be kidnapped by both of them and that Cindy - the original one to smell a rat - will see to it that justice is served! She will become the village hero and this will be her redemption, despite the fact that it is Mercedes who seemingly cracks the case. DS Thorpe may as well clear his desk now with the obscene amount of dead bodies he has allowed to stack up during the past year or so. I'm willing the climax of the story to be thrilling, but maybe that is being a little too adventurous! |
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Sophie Austin is clearly dismayed about leaving the show and it's a shame to hear that her marriage has broken down too. Unfortunately, there was no other way for Lindsey to go once she was written into a dead end and revealed to be the GHK. If she hadn't of had such lazy scripts and the writers invested a lot more into the story and the character, it could have played out so much better and Sophie could have shown us what she is really capable of as an actress.
The GHK is such a wasted storyline as it was dynamite to begin with, but with every killing that took place the more and more weak it got. The execution of the reveal was disappointingly poor and the untimely death of Dr S'Avage was also a huge loss. He and Cindy deserved to have Lindsey banged to rights, but now it seems it will all come down to the fact that she originally helped to protect Mercedes and Cindy from being held to account for the murder of Dr Browning. Judging by the trailer, I'm guessing that unless they keep Lindsey's secret hidden, they too will be in the hyperdermic firing line - together with a further sinister threat that Silas will get rid of them himself in an effort to protect Lindsey. I am convinced that Mercedes will indeed be kidnapped by both of them and that Cindy - the original one to smell a rat - will see to it that justice is served! She will become the village hero and this will be her redemption, despite the fact that it is Mercedes who seemingly cracks the case. DS Thorpe may as well clear his desk now with the obscene amount of dead bodies he has allowed to stack up during the past year or so. I'm willing the climax of the story to be thrilling, but maybe that is being a little too adventurous!
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I stopped watching as soon as they killed off Patrick. I had given up on the soap long before then but wanted to see Jeremy Sheffields final scenes.
3-4 years ago it was unmissable, my fave soap by far. the day they killed off Sam and Danny so Peri and Leela could conveniently become a family with psycho Cameron was the day it lost all credibility and it has been on a very fast decline ever since. What they have done with the lovely Lindsey is ridiculous too. |
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Ever since Brendan left it's gone rapidly downhill.
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ever since BIRKWOOD came back he has systematically destroyed the show.
i am not saying it was perfect before his grand arrival, there was already too much unnecessary death, but he just took it to whole new levels of ridiculousness. though i suppose nothing can quite outdo the Twincest storyline, i actually sometimes feel like i am watching some sort of sci fi now, and not a soap, or at the least a parody of a soap. its just nonsense, however i am still watching casually but its on at such a convenient time bang on dinner. maybe i have this hope that somthing can be salvaged from this wreckage when the truley awful kirkwood has gone. probably the worst soap producer ever after his hat trick of managing to ruin eastenders and killing off the legend that is Pat. what a moron. |
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Hollyoaks is a soap where it has it moments... When it's good, it's unmissable. But when it's bad, its time to take it off series link.
It became a joke when the producers decided to take on the '80s style storylines', i.e the gloved hand killer, which started off great, and would have ended great if Lyndsey had actually killed Freddie.. I feel their is no continuity at the moment, no real family stories. It's a shame because Hollyoaks could be a great gritty teenage drama. It doesn't need as many characters. Go back to family units, not a few families surrounded by 30+ extras. It could really do with a Paul Marquess revamp again. |
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