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Iain lee
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by CheeseToasted:
“Right but we don't know if this was that scam. Or even a scam.

Nigel did a pretty poor job of explaining what the Kylie Minogue thing was all about. All he said was that he thought Kylie Minogue tried to call him on Skype. It could've simply been an advert on Skype with Kylie Minogue's name in it for all we know. If it was a scam, surely they would've been writing to him first.

So rather than leave him be and risk him being humiliated by a scammer (assuming this was a scammer and also assuming Nigel would've fell for it; leading to a pretty low percentage imo), by confronting him like that you're now making 100% sure that he's gonna feel humiliated, and in front of however many thousand listeners. I think it was harsh.”

Nigel had told me on a previous call that he had spoken to Kylie and she had filmed him. He has also on several occasions explained how he has spoken to Miley Cyrus on Skype. Now, there is a chance this is pure fantasy, but I make up he HAS had these conversations. This means at the very least someone is making fun of him, at worst he is being exploited for money or being filmed engaging in sexual exploits on webcam. The fact he has shared these accounts with me means, in my humble, I have a duty to flag up that he obviously has NOT been talking to these people.

Sorry if you thought I was harsh or mean, it's something I really did worry myself about last night during and after the show. However, shortly after that he spoke to TheDCDJ and complained that he hadn't received any money yet for the song and was very angry about that, the implication I picked up is that he was angry about lack of funds as opposed to me confronting him on Kylie.

Back in the day, I would have laughed at callers like Nigel because of their apparent mental deficiencies, I am no longer able to perform that 'act'. My own experience with mental health issues, becoming a dad, feelings of hopelessness and despair, and, I wan't to say maturing but that's the wrong word, anyways, all of this combined 'life' means I feel a great empathy for people with struggles in their life.

Nigel is perhaps more emotionally detached than I had first thought and maybe it was a mistake to try and help him release a single on iTunes. I genuinely thought he would be touched and pleased, but obviously it means something different to him than I expected. And that's fine.

As you were.
CheeseToasted
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by Iain lee:
“Nigel had told me on a previous call that he had spoken to Kylie and she had filmed him. He has also on several occasions explained how he has spoken to Miley Cyrus on Skype. Now, there is a chance this is pure fantasy, but I make up he HAS had these conversations. This means at the very least someone is making fun of him, at worst he is being exploited for money or being filmed engaging in sexual exploits on webcam. The fact he has shared these accounts with me means, in my humble, I have a duty to flag up that he obviously has NOT been talking to these people.

Sorry if you thought I was harsh or mean, it's something I really did worry myself about last night during and after the show. However, shortly after that he spoke to TheDCDJ and complained that he hadn't received any money yet for the song and was very angry about that, the implication I picked up is that he was angry about lack of funds as opposed to me confronting him on Kylie.

Back in the day, I would have laughed at callers like Nigel because of their apparent mental deficiencies, I am no longer able to perform that 'act'. My own experience with mental health issues, becoming a dad, feelings of hopelessness and despair, and, I wan't to say maturing but that's the wrong word, anyways, all of this combined 'life' means I feel a great empathy for people with struggles in their life.

Nigel is perhaps more emotionally detached than I had first thought and maybe it was a mistake to try and help him release a single on iTunes. I genuinely thought he would be touched and pleased, but obviously it means something different to him than I expected. And that's fine.

As you were.”

Fair enough mate. It's hard to say what's right and wrong in a situation like that, particularly when we don't have all the information.

Personally though, having being on the receiving end of somewhat similar situations, although admittedly not as severe, I know how soul shattering it can be to be suddenly told how 'foolish' you look, especially in front of an audience. I think you would've been doing him a big favour by taking him off-air before doing that. And I think his anger is a direct result of that - the money thing is an excuse to lash out at you for 'showing him up'.
Iain lee
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by CheeseToasted:
“Fair enough mate. It's hard to say what's right and wrong in a situation like that, particularly when we don't have all the information.

Personally though, having being on the receiving end of somewhat similar situations, although admittedly not as severe, I know how soul shattering it can be to be suddenly told how 'foolish' you look, especially in front of an audience. I think you would've been doing him a big favour by taking him off-air before doing that. And I think his anger is a direct result of that - the money thing is an excuse to lash out at you for 'showing him up'.”

I disagree and I stand by what I did but I respect your opinion and appreciate you expressing your concern.
CheeseToasted
21-09-2016
Originally Posted by Iain lee:
“I disagree and I stand by what I did but I respect your opinion and appreciate you expressing your concern.”

Ditto. Peace, brother.
comedycoma
21-09-2016
Iain and Kath have been trying to make the Skype issue clear to Nigel for a few months now. Most of the time he seems to not hear them, or doesn't want to hear them.

I think last night it got through to him and got to him.

He'll be back phoning in again within the week.
Ollie_h19
22-09-2016
The Nigel incident is included in today's podcast. I think its pretty clear, especially if you know the backstory, that Iain and Kath were just looking out for him. They have been telling him to be careful on Skype for ages but he won't listen. He just wants his windfall from Lindsay Lo-horn to arrive.
Zenton
22-09-2016
Originally Posted by Ollie_h19:
“The Nigel incident is included in today's podcast. I think its pretty clear, especially if you know the backstory, that Iain and Kath were just looking out for him. They have been telling him to be careful on Skype for ages but he won't listen. He just wants his windfall from Lindsay Lo-horn to arrive.”

It's a difficult situation as Nigel will believe that he's entitled to millions as it charted. Perhaps the best thing would be not to take his calls as I can see him becoming more demanding and aggressive as time goes on.
Supersoul
22-09-2016
Originally Posted by Ollie_h19:
“The Nigel incident is included in today's podcast. I think its pretty clear, especially if you know the backstory, that Iain and Kath were just looking out for him. They have been telling him to be careful on Skype for ages but he won't listen. He just wants his windfall from Lindsay Lo-horn to arrive.”

Yep. He doesn't see the tunes as a bit of fun. He sees this as a gateway to fame and fortune (and Miley Cyris and Lindsay Lo-horn of course).
HistoricDealer
22-09-2016
Originally Posted by CheeseToasted:
“Personally though, having being on the receiving end of somewhat similar situations, although admittedly not as severe, I know how soul shattering it can be to be suddenly told how 'foolish' you look”

But sometimes it can be soul shattering having the self realisation that you've been foolish. Maybe it's just that - maybe he has finally realised?
radiodad
22-09-2016
Originally Posted by HistoricDealer:
“But sometimes it can be soul shattering having the self realisation that you've been foolish. Maybe it's just that - maybe he has finally realised?”

I don't think he's realised that, give him a week he will be back on asking about the money. As said in this thread it seems he's getting annoyed at the lack of funds from the song. In his world because it charted in the iTunes dance chart thats massive and must be worth millions.
dave2702
22-09-2016
Originally Posted by radiodad:
“I don't think he's realised that, give him a week he will be back on asking about the money. As said in this thread it seems he's getting annoyed at the lack of funds from the song. In his world because it charted in the iTunes dance chart thats massive and must be worth millions.”

And don't forget the Worldwide Sales
Kevin g
23-09-2016
Iain Lee Lee hinted last night that he might not be doing any more duets with Nigel due to Nigel's moaning I hope Nigel starts to call again the man his radio gold must listen to radio
radiodad
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Kevin g:
“Iain Lee Lee hinted last night that he might not be doing any more duets with Nigel due to Nigel's moaning I hope Nigel starts to call again the man his radio gold must listen to radio”

I'm with Iain on this one, at the start it was funny and Nigel was good entertainment. However in the last couple of weeks it has become evident (to me anyway) that Nigel has some quite serious issues and is not just a bit nuts. The last couple of calls have been quite uncomfortable and I've noticed Iain also taking a step back.

Its very similar to the guy who used to call him on Absolute that at first seemed a bit nuts but in later shows it became evident that he had a massive drug problem and became quite uncomfortable listening. In the end Iain said he would not take any more calls off him on air due to him feeling guilty of taking advantage of someone who was clearly not well.
Kevin g
23-09-2016
Nigel from Maidstone is why I listen to the Iain Lee show i spoke to Nigel and he his OK he said he might ring Iain tonight or Tuesday he told me he has idea of a new song that Iain will love fingers crossed
Fish_and_Chips
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Kevin g:
“Iain Lee Lee hinted last night that he might not be doing any more duets with Nigel due to Nigel's moaning I hope Nigel starts to call again the man his radio gold must listen to radio”

I also enjoy his calls and don't think I would ever tire of them, especially as the show isn't exactly deluged with interesting characters compared to the LBC days
Kevin g
23-09-2016
Iain Lee needs less music more chat I hate it when he keeps playing music might go back to lain collins it called talk radio only music should be the jingles and his callers who want to sing
Iain lee
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Kevin g:
“Iain Lee needs less music more chat I hate it when he keeps playing music might go back to lain collins it called talk radio only music should be the jingles and his callers who want to sing”

Sorry you don't like the music. I play a song at the top of the hour and then if a conversation starts about music, I'll bring some in to illustrate a point or to make people aware of the song we're discussing. I'd do the same thing if you were round my house and we had a friend who wasn't aware of the group which we were discussing.

I've taken on board you're point but I've decided I'm going to stick with the occasional bursts of music. Actually, a lot of the songs last night were from my guest Weird Al so it was a really useful tool in setting up who he was.

If you decide the show isn't for you, that's cool. But you're always welcome back.

Cheers
paulx23
23-09-2016
Plus if they think that Ian Collins is a suitable alternative, then the show is definitely not for them.
sandstone
23-09-2016
depends on the topic is on LBC.
wicksta
23-09-2016
I do like the music, although it keeps me awake too late - pure speech radio naturally sends me to sleep. The small music element is a good thing for talkRADIO because I'm engaged with the show, not so much for my productivity the next day.

Actually, Nick Abbot's soundboard has a similar effect on my sleep pattern because I wake up again to laugh when I hear them.
CheeseToasted
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Kevin g:
“Nigel from Maidstone is why I listen to the Iain Lee show i spoke to Nigel and he his OK he said he might ring Iain tonight or Tuesday”

Great news!

I'm glad he's OK.
Kevin g
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by Iain lee:
“Sorry you don't like the music. I play a song at the top of the hour and then if a conversation starts about music, I'll bring some in to illustrate a point or to make people aware of the song we're discussing. I'd do the same thing if you were round my house and we had a friend who wasn't aware of the group which we were discussing.

I've taken on board you're point but I've decided I'm going to stick with the occasional bursts of music. Actually, a lot of the songs last night were from my guest Weird Al so it was a really useful tool in setting up who he was.

If you decide the show isn't for you, that's cool. But you're always welcome back.

Cheers”

it's your show Mr Lee it's up to you if you want a bit of music in your show I do enjoy your jokes sometimes you make my belly hurt I laugh that much
HappyTree
23-09-2016
Just listened to Nigelgate on the pod. I really don't envy Iain's job sometimes. He has to walk an impossible tightrope. I think he told the truth in a straightforward, gentle way. You can't let people like Nigel go on believing their fantasies when you know there's a scam about that very thing that could end up really hurting them. What Nigel does with the truth is something for him to deal with. Glad to hear he's bounced back.
Kevin g
23-09-2016
Originally Posted by HappyTree:
“Just listened to Nigelgate on the pod. I really don't envy Iain's job sometimes. He has to walk an impossible tightrope. I think he told the truth in a straightforward, gentle way. You can't let people like Nigel go on believing their fantasies when you know there's a scam about that very thing that could end up really hurting them. What Nigel does with the truth is something for him to deal with. Glad to hear he's bounced back.”

Nigel was on fire tonight great nice call shame he did not sing
mfr
24-09-2016
Great discussion with Michael (I think) about his schizophrenia. It was a short discussion but very revealing. I don't think I've heard someone speak so candidly on the subject on the radio.
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