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Old 09-05-2016, 08:19
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Excited for this week, the drama will definitely be good. I don't love Aaron any less for taking on his sister.. nothing could make me love him any less, but I suppose if Aaron was completely pushing Robert to one side & believing Liv & taking her side on everything then I'd have a different feeling towards Robron as a couple & my anger would be at ED, not Aaron. I don't see things becoming that bad tbh, Aaron does seem to be taking Roberts advice on board which is a great sign really.
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Old 09-05-2016, 08:44
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But the was no aftermath to Andys involvement heven now he has his kids back, if being shot was Roberts commeuppance then Surley the reveal will be Andys commeuppance he's made 3 attempts at Robert life now and got away with them all. For all the horriible stuff Robert has done to Andy when push come to shove he protects him while Andy tries to kill Robert.

Andy killed Roberts mum by accident Robert never told the police and covered for him, Robert killed Katie by accident Andy wanted him to go to prison for it, Robert shot jack trying to murder him, Robert covered for him. He tried to kill two more times that you mentioned, Surley Andy deserves some sort of punishment now, especially as he is playing the white knight, the honest and sincere alternative to evil Robert.

Charity could blackmail Andy to help her rip off the white family as her inside man. Andy would have to help or he would loose his freedom and his kids. I really think there is far too much drama for it not to come out, Andy has been put with the whites for a reason
Love This post i would also like to see Andy getting some punishments. I wish people would start to see that he's not that perfect Man that everyone seems to think.
Andy is never made to take responsibility for his actions, he always end up treated like the victim even when he's the one at fault
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:24
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I just feel that Robert is a stronger character than Ed or Jackson and there will come a point when he will say enough is enough. Aaron seems to want to be Paddy, but he is not old enough to do that, and the current story with the trio, for me, at any rate, stretches reality - it's the sort of story Hollyoaks would do.
I hope so. I may be in the minority but while I like Aaron, Robert is my favourite. I hope the writers won't change his character in order to make him put up with Aaron's moodiness like Jackson and Ed did. But I'm confident they won't.
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:45
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I hope so. I may be in the minority but while I like Aaron, Robert is my favourite. I hope the writers won't change his character in order to make him put up with Aaron's moodiness like Jackson and Ed did. But I'm confident they won't.
Aaron is a moody character. It's part of his personality. If Robert doesn't want to 'put up' with Aaron's moodiness then he can't be that in love with him and they best not be together i'd say. He knows Aaron can be grumpy and moody and he's chosen to be with him regardless.
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:49
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I hope so. I may be in the minority but while I like Aaron, Robert is my favourite. I hope the writers won't change his character in order to make him put up with Aaron's moodiness like Jackson and Ed did. But I'm confident they won't.
I don't think they will either.Danny was also saying he hopes that they keep them both true to character and keep the angst etc because the arguments and make ups are what made people love them at the start
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:53
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While I admit that I would rather Liv was not a permanent character etc,I do think it's good that Aaron wants to look after her and be a father figure-I understand why he wants to and I don't see how it can make people think any less of him
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Old 09-05-2016, 10:24
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While I admit that I would rather Liv was not a permanent character etc,I do think it's good that Aaron wants to look after her and be a father figure-I understand why he wants to and I don't see how it can make people think any less of him
I also understand that he wants to look after her even though I'm not her biggest fan but it shouldn't be as a "father figure" imo. Aaron is his brother, he's only 24 and honestly, he's not stable enough to be anyone's father. It's not realistic. But it's soapland, so...
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Old 09-05-2016, 10:56
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I hope so. I may be in the minority but while I like Aaron, Robert is my favourite. I hope the writers won't change his character in order to make him put up with Aaron's moodiness like Jackson and Ed did. But I'm confident they won't.
I think the point, as Danny has said, is that the Aaron's relationship with Robert is completely different to his previous ones. Robert won't change in any big way and neither will Aaron but they'll work it out. From the beginning it has been a different dynamic altogether than with Aaron's other boyfriends. At one level it may well be just small 'moody' things and yet there will also be bigger situations but they will get through them in the end. Robert hasn't waited all this time to be put off by what is a part of Aaron's make up, he has always known what he's like. Equally, there will be situations when Aaron realises that, this time, he has to back down. It will all make for more interesting sls
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:00
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Is this the week Aaron makes his big decision or is that week, week 20?
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:03
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Is this the week Aaron makes his big decision or is that week, week 20?
It's this week according to Soap Life:

Aaron’s had enough and he makes a life changing decision… What is it?
Actually it might be week 20? Soap Life just lists it under the "What's Next" section.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:08
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I think maybe they mean the name change. Theres no mention of anything else.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:12
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It's this week according to Soap Life:



Actually it might be week 20? Soap Life just lists it under the "What's Next" section.
I think it's also week 20 as I just came across this:

Tuesday 17th (7:00pm - 7:30pm) - Robert helps Aaron make a decision.

Is this maybe something to do with an inheritance from Gordon? Maybe the trip to Barc?
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:12
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Maybe it coincides with the "Robert helps Aaron make a decision" spoiler in week 20?

Edit: haha snap laoghaire.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:13
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It's this week according to Soap Life:



Actually it might be week 20? Soap Life just lists it under the "What's Next" section.
Maybe It's in regards of what Gordon leaves him like money and He is taking the décision because of it.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:14
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Maybe it coincides with the "Robert helps Aaron make a decision" spoiler in week 20?

Edit: haha snap laoghaire.
We are on top form this morning ha ha.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:14
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I think it's also week 20 as I just came across this:

Tuesday 17th (7:00pm - 7:30pm) - Robert helps Aaron make a decision.

Is this maybe something to do with an inheritance from Gordon? Maybe the trip to Barc?
Or somewhere a lot less glamorous....
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:18
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I'm a witness at court this week never even seen anything
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:18
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I also understand that he wants to look after her even though I'm not her biggest fan but it shouldn't be as a "father figure" imo. Aaron is his brother, he's only 24 and honestly, he's not stable enough to be anyone's father. It's not realistic. But it's soapland, so...
Yes it works with David & Jacob, partly because David is a "young" mid thirties, and manages to both a mate and a father figure at the same time, mainly because Jacob is basically a good natured kid and he sees David as his dad. To Liv Aaron is an authority figure of a very debased sort because she hasn't seen him for years and has a very different personality to Jacob. It will become very wearing if Emmerdale continue down the Hollyoaks route where there are some very unbeliveable relationships
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:18
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Or somewhere a lot less glamorous....
You know what... I totally blanked on the Marbs thing... I have to retract my top form statement.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:20
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You know what... I totally blanked on the Marbs thing... I have to retract my top form statement.
Less glamorous....
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:23
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Less glamorous....
Do you know what's going?
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:25
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I honestly do not see the issue with Aaron/Liv. It's a brother taking responsibility for his sister. I just don't get why people seem to see it as this massive nonsensical thing. It isn't.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:29
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I honestly do not see the issue with Aaron/Liv. It's a brother taking responsibility for his sister. I just don't get why people seem to see it as this massive nonsensical thing. It isn't.
Same; I actually really enjoy their relationship. But to each their own.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:37
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I honestly do not see the issue with Aaron/Liv. It's a brother taking responsibility for his sister. I just don't get why people seem to see it as this massive nonsensical thing. It isn't.
I agree
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:39
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Originally Posted by sderr123;82346168[B
]I have to say this scenario is very teen soap. Having families where the parental figures and the children are very close in age is a classic trope of soaps for younger viewers. That's why you are reminded of Hollyoaks. Its teenage wish fulfillment. This has been my problem with this all along.
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Maybe its what they are after though. I am not sure Robert is going to put off by Liv. I think making a 24 year old a parent of 14 year old creates an obvious power competition dynamic between Liv, Aaron and Robert. Its playing out how I would expect it to so far. I don't think its a mistake its what the producer wanted.
Yes totally agree with that.

Ithink Robert,down the line, could be put off, because (like most of us) when he fell for Aaron, he had no idea about the stroppy kid sister with attitude, (and criminality) and certainly no idea Aaron would suddenly develop paternal feelings for her (if that is what they are). From the producers point of view, this veneer of being the pater familas figure might neutralise his "gayness", in the same way poor Finn is reduced to being a "gay man" with no gay feelings.

I certainly don't want sex scenes, not at 7 in the evening but I don't see the point of having gay stories if you are not going to assimulate the characters into the programme.

From the actor and characters point of view, I am not sure Robert a man of 30 would want to "compete" with a 14 year old, and from DM/Aarons POV, I think constant scenes of cosy or not so cosy domesticity will soon bore him because both actor and character are quite restless men.
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