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Old 29-03-2016, 19:49
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Many many people are massive fans of coronation street and would love to see the earlier episodes of the show released, either free to watch or under a paywall. The demand is surely there for such a service so why have ITV still not released the archives of Coronation Street whilst at the same time striking copyright claims on the Granada plus massacred versions that are intermittently available on YouTube. A lot of us know the shows historic charachters without seeing much of them by virtue of not being around 56-20 years ago and would love to see them.

We know the entire Corrie archive exists, on various video formats, so why can't the ITV heirachy get there act together and digitise it. It's a one-off investment that would surely pay for itself within a year or two, if not months. There are hundred reasons not to do it if you're are cynical but they either underestimate the fans or are grossly cynical and incompetent commercial profit motivated views.

This is a plea to Coronation Street to release the archives, as they were intended to be watched (4:3, black and white if that's the case 16:9, colour if that's the case) and with the full original episodes (no scenes cut for ad breaks like when they were shown on granada plus).

It's every corrie fans dream, it's a commercial goldmine for ITV, so why hasn't it been done?

Or at the very least rebroadcast them so we can tape them.

Do others on here agree not releasing the archives is an insult to fans?
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Old 29-03-2016, 20:06
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As an addendum to this little rant I will say that ITV have indicated in email that there may be vague plans to release some of the back catalogue at some point. Either say you're gonna do it or say you're not?
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:05
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I always liked the idea of them releasing more DVDs, like their 1960s to 2000s boxsets which contain 8 episodes for each year. Perhaps 1960-1969 Volume 2, 1970-1979 Volume 2, etc. Pick out some more selected episodes.
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:09
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I expect they do not want to have the situation where people watch the old episodes and don't watch the new ones.
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:10
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I always liked the idea of them releasing more DVDs, like their 1960s to 2000s boxsets which contain 8 episodes for each year. Perhaps 1960-1969 Volume 2, 1970-1979 Volume 2, etc. Pick out some more selected episodes.
How about they just put them on youtube? It would be so much easier and DVDs seem to be going the way of the dinosaur with the Netflix and Hulu taking their place.

Also does ITV really have most episodes of Corrie going back to the early years? I'm just wondering because I know ABC kept very few episodes of their soaps in the early days, in fact I don't think there are any episodes of One Life To Live from its first few years.
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:11
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Many many people are massive fans of coronation street and would love to see the earlier episodes of the show released, either free to watch or under a paywall. The demand is surely there for such a service so why have ITV still not released the archives of Coronation Street whilst at the same time striking copyright claims on the Granada plus massacred versions that are intermittently available on YouTube. A lot of us know the shows historic charachters without seeing much of them by virtue of not being around 56-20 years ago and would love to see them.

We know the entire Corrie archive exists, on various video formats, so why can't the ITV heirachy get there act together and digitise it. It's a one-off investment that would surely pay for itself within a year or two, if not months. There are hundred reasons not to do it if you're are cynical but they either underestimate the fans or are grossly cynical and incompetent commercial profit motivated views.

This is a plea to Coronation Street to release the archives, as they were intended to be watched (4:3, black and white if that's the case 16:9, colour if that's the case) and with the full original episodes (no scenes cut for ad breaks like when they were shown on granada plus).

It's every corrie fans dream, it's a commercial goldmine for ITV, so why hasn't it been done?

Or at the very least rebroadcast them so we can tape them.

Do others on here agree not releasing the archives is an insult to fans?
How do you know the entire archive exists?
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:14
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I always liked the idea of them releasing more DVDs, like their 1960s to 2000s boxsets which contain 8 episodes for each year. Perhaps 1960-1969 Volume 2, 1970-1979 Volume 2, etc. Pick out some more selected episodes.
They are unlikely to release DVDs. The DVD era is dead as online streaming has took its place.
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:31
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I always liked the idea of them releasing more DVDs, like their 1960s to 2000s boxsets which contain 8 episodes for each year. Perhaps 1960-1969 Volume 2, 1970-1979 Volume 2, etc. Pick out some more selected episodes.
Selected episodes don't work for me Callum!!

One of my biggest joys of recent years is when I finally went online after putting it off for years, and discovering the goldmine that was the Corrie episodes uploaded onto YouTube, especially from the 00's & the fact that you could once again follow the storylines you remembered, plus a few you'd forgotten about, instead of just seeing the same 'popular' incidents & selected episodes time & again!!
There is so much joy to be found in each episode if you look for it, even if it's not an 'important' episode!!
It realky saddens me that so many of these old episodes have now been deleted for copyright reasons!! Why FFS, what harm was it doing ITV or Granada or whoever, since they aren't making them available for viewing? Ok delete the epidodes that are on their Box sets if they think it'll affect thir sales but thr rest!! Leave them be & let us fans have our pleasure!!
I hope that isn't now the last we see of kind people uploading these old episodes & I certainly hope no more of the ones already there are deleted!!
In answer to your OP then yes I think there would be massive demand for even a digital channel showing episodes from all six decades in order as they appeared at the time!! I agree it could be a goldmine for them!!
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:42
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How about they just put them on youtube? It would be so much easier and DVDs seem to be going the way of the dinosaur with the Netflix and Hulu taking their place.

Also does ITV really have most episodes of Corrie going back to the early years? I'm just wondering because I know ABC kept very few episodes of their soaps in the early days, in fact I don't think there are any episodes of One Life To Live from its first few years.
I and many other people I know still buy DVDs and will continue to do so.

ABC is an American channel and ITV is a British channel - two different countries which have their own ways of doing things.
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:43
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Yes, count me in!!

And though streaming has taken off in recent years, DVDs haven't entirely bit the bullet yet. There are still a mass of people who prefer physical formats, whether with music, books or television programmes/films. Particularly, in regards to the target audience if they ever decided to release the archive from the very beginning (which I hope, if they were to do so, would be the case as what would be the point otherwise?), then I think the majority of those interested would probably lean more towards the physical format, seeing as a good 1000 or so will be in black and white. For me personally though, as long as we got the opportunity to see the episodes, I wouldn't care how they were released.

I'm still surprised Network haven't gone back to the beginning and decided to start releasing episodes in order, now they've finished their decade sets. The decade sets were good but they only really work as a whole if you either were watching right from the beginning or if you know enough of the programme's history to be able to fill in the gaps competently, which is tricky even for a superfan.

It puzzles me slightly. They've released 5 volumes of Emmerdale Farm from the beginning - a period of the programme which ITV don't even really like to acknowledge or promote anymore. You'd think if sales were good enough to warrant five volumes of that, then Corrie sales, even in black and white, from the beginning would be a no-brainer. Hopefully it's something that'll be on the cards, fingers crossed.
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Old 29-03-2016, 21:48
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But ABC is an American channel and ITV is a British channel - two different channels, two different countries.
True, bu they have similarities, and from what I've read it wasn't standard practice to save episodes of shows back then. Also what format would those older episodes be in and are they even in good enough shape to be played.
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:01
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I expect they do not want to have the situation where people watch the old episodes and don't watch the new ones.
Personally, I don't think this would happen. And my final option of broadcasting the old episodes one at time negates that, put them on the Tipping Point/The Chase slot (like the Beeb used to do with eastenders) and you can guarantee that normal corrie ratings wouldn't be affected.

I always liked the idea of them releasing more DVDs, like their 1960s to 2000s boxsets which contain 8 episodes for each year. Perhaps 1960-1969 Volume 2, 1970-1979 Volume 2, etc. Pick out some more selected episodes.
The sheer digitisation process is a big enough process without adding in the mass-marketing of DVDs to the equasion. Streaming has made it a lot easier to carry out something on this scale, and I be suprised if they didn't used a screening system.

How about they just put them on youtube? It would be so much easier and DVDs seem to be going the way of the dinosaur with the Netflix and Hulu taking their place.

Also does ITV really have most episodes of Corrie going back to the early years? I'm just wondering because I know ABC kept very few episodes of their soaps in the early days, in fact I don't think there are any episodes of One Life To Live from its first few years.
Regarding YT, there's living actors who would probably be owed royalties if there work was shown on telly, putting it on YouTube could incur the same cost if done by the channel. Why I suggested ITVPlayer or a dedicated streaming site.

Yes, they do. They did wipe some, but they kept the Granada International tapes which go back to the first episode and covered the wiped era of 1960-69. There not full-quality but to most corrie fan this wouldn't matter as it would still be good to see the early evolution of the show. Corrie is all about the interaction between characters, this would still come across on less than perfect film recordings. The person in that thread says they're glad Granada made those copies, personally I'd argue there's nothing to be glad about if they remain locked up in an archive.

For an example of what they might look like here's the first episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6kcwZeuax8

How do you know the entire archive exists?
See above.

The other reason they might not broadcast them is because some of the stuff in them is "of it's time" (for example Eddie Yeates frequently uses the phrase your a white man to Stan, whereas there was a near-riot over a character using a similar phrase in Corrie last year (??), similarly there's what would now be deemed psychologically abusive relationships that don't bat an eyelid. But I think to not release a programme because it might offend some people today, despite the fact it was true to it's time is petulant and silly. Not to mention Stan Ogden leering over Susie and Gail (and these were all in 1976-78 episodes).
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:06
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I and many other people I know still buy DVDs and will continue to do so.

ABC is an American channel and ITV is a British channel - two different countries which have their own ways of doing things.
ABC was a British television company in the early sixties.
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:16
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ABC was a British television company in the early sixties.
For those who don't like googling stuff, here's the wiki of the Associated British Corporation.
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:24
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I hope that isn't now the last we see of kind people uploading these old episodes & I certainly hope no more of the ones already there are deleted!!
The entire Auntie Corrie archive of Granada + episodes was deleted for copyright reasons. That's 30 years of Corrie gone, no doubt anyone who re-uploads it will face the same fate. To me if you're going to be that stringent you should make provisions to make it available. The whole reason you file a copyright is because it's denying you profit by being freely available, if you aren't monetising the product (in this case those specific episodes) what basis do you have to file the copyright (morally not legally, legally it's ownership I get that)?
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:27
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How do you know the entire archive exists?
It's well documented. Each and every episode exists in it's entirety, thanks to Granada's forward-thinking policies to retain content.

I don't understand why all archive programming isn't being uploaded to streaming services by now, it'd make a lot more money from advertisers than sitting on a dusty shelf. It makes so much sense, it's like they haven't realised a digitalised archive is the future. We know and we're just waiting for them to catch up.

What I don't want is something like the BBC's online content, which makes you pay for each episode. That's quite ridiculous for something like EastEnders with four eps in a single week.
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:33
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It's well documented. Each and every episode exists in it's entirety, thanks to Granada's forward-thinking policies to retain content.

I don't understand why all archive programming isn't being uploaded to streaming services by now, it'd make a lot more money from advertisers than sitting on a dusty shelf. It makes so much sense, it's like they haven't realised a digitalised archive is the future. We know and we're just waiting for them to catch up.

What I don't want is something like the BBC's online content, which makes you pay for each episode. That's quite ridiculous for something like EastEnders with four eps in a single week.
To me it depends on the pricing. A subscription of £7-10 a month or 10-20p per episode would seem apt for me. Those who just want to catch an episode or two here would be able to do it extremely cheaply, and committed fans wouldn't be out of pocket excessively. And that should cover hosting costs if demand was high enough, which with a national institution like Corrie you'd expect it to be. Royalties for the actors who are still around is the point where issues could arise, but could they not discuss it with them at the least.
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:34
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They are unlikely to release DVDs. The DVD era is dead as online streaming has took its place.
Well, online streaming is all very well, but then things get taken down from the likes of YouTube for "copyright infringement" (RIP Auntie Corrie )

I'd much rather buy a DVD that I know I own...
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:38
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Well, online streaming is all very well, but then things get taken down from the likes of YouTube for "copyright infringement" (RIP Auntie Corrie )

I'd much rather buy a DVD that I know I own...
I think you're missing the point of online streaming. It's not a free-for-all upload what you want. If ITV were to release the Corrie archives you'd be damn sure they weren't going anywhere even from a stream, the same way shows on the BBC Store will remain available indefinitely. They're removed off YT because, at the end of the day, it's not there content (Auntie Corrie also ran ads on her uploads, which probably didn't help her.

I understand the desire for physical copies, but the sheer number of DVDs required would be insane even if it was just the first 20-30 years released.
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:44
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I think you're missing the point of online streaming. It's not a free-for-all upload what you want. If ITV were to release the Corrie archives you'd be damn sure they weren't going anywhere even from a stream, the same way shows on the BBC Store will remain available indefinitely.
Well, OK - they should do that then
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:45
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As an addendum to this little rant I will say that ITV have indicated in email that there may be vague plans to release some of the back catalogue at some point. Either say you're gonna do it or say you're not?
PS: Can you elaborate on this? Was it an email exchange you had with ITV?

What was it they said exactly?
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:53
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I want the same to happen with Eastenders and Emmerdale. I don't see why they can't set something up online so we can watch them.
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Old 29-03-2016, 22:58
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We need to set up a petition to show itv how popular it would be
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Old 29-03-2016, 23:00
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PS: Can you elaborate on this? Was it an email exchange you had with ITV?

What was it they said exactly?
I can't find the email, sorry. It was months ago. I emailed ITV regarding whether old episodes from Corrie might be released (rather grumpily referencing the deletion of the YouTube catalogue for copyright reasons), they referred my message on to Coronation Street who said there was no plans in house, but that ITV had discussed with them the possibility of archive shows being released on a pay-per-view system. It was all very vague and non-committal.
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Old 29-03-2016, 23:01
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I was heartened last year when ITV Player put up a very rare Corrie episode from 1975 called Annie and Betty's Coronation Street Memories, which I hadn't seen since it went out (charging something like 99p to view it). Trouble was it was a Christmas episode and they put it up in something like July; by the time I got around to trying to watch it they'd taken it off again, and despite my email requests they said they had no plans to make it available again! Daft.

If they were a little more savvy, they could make a goldmine from uploading archive episodes.
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