[P_Marsh]

My Orange UMA connected phone has stopped connecting (getting ISP or Wireless error).

Is anyone here using an Orange UMA connection successfully at the moment? They seem to have dropped info about it from their web site.

Thanks for any help.

[Thine Wonk]

Blimey there's a blast from the past, haven't heard mention of UMA for years! I thought they discontinued it ages ago.

I'm sure somebody will be able to help here through, we've got a lot of EE experts.

[plymouthbloke1974]

It was decommissioned yesterday and customers were notified via text about a month ago.

To be fair there were only a few hundred people using it regularly now and there are other solutions.

[Everything Goes]

When I first saw this thread I thought it had been one that had been resurrected from years ago

[P_Marsh]

Thank you for the replies. Shame about that as UMA was a great solution for me living in a zero-coverage village.

Does anyone know of an equivalent Wi-Fi handover service that will work with a Pay As You Go SIMM? Preferably without requiring an expensive phone.

[DevoidDroid]

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Originally Posted by P_Marsh

Thank you for the replies. Shame about that as UMA was a great solution for me living in a zero-coverage village.

Does anyone know of an equivalent Wi-Fi handover service that will work with a Pay As You Go SIMM? Preferably without requiring an expensive phone.

Three, and Vectone offer iPhone and Android apps that allow you to make and receive calls over WiFi. O2 also offer an app but it's for Pay Monthly only. WiFi Calling on EE and Vodafone requires a compatible phone and is Pay Monthly only.

[Thine Wonk]

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_Marsh

Thank you for the replies. Shame about that as UMA was a great solution for me living in a zero-coverage village.

Does anyone know of an equivalent Wi-Fi handover service that will work with a Pay As You Go SIMM? Preferably without requiring an expensive phone.

Vodafone do a thing called 'suresignal' it's just a small box you plug in next to your router and it gives you 3G coverage in your house, Three's version is Signal box, EE do them and O2 as well.

EE Wifi calling on pay monthly with an EE supplied phone http://ee.co.uk/help/phones-and-devi...h-wifi-calling

[nancyboy]

You would probably have to be quick, but Carphone Warehouse currently have the iPhone 5s at no upfront cost with a monthly tariff on EE of £14.99 (300 mins, unlimited texts, 300 Gb). This supports EE Wifi Calling.

[P_Marsh]

Thanks again for all those suggestions. Apparently the Vectone app will work with their PAYG SIMM and runs on a PC which, if true, would be just the ticket. Especially if it allows the PC to receive SMS messages when the phone is down, and the phone to receive them when it is up. Probably too good to be true...

It is unfortunate the Orange UMA service has been dropped, however -- especially given that it is compensating for the MNO's inadequate network -- and would be interesting to know how the new 'Wi-Fi calling' solutions are different. I.e. why can't I just reprogram my Blackberry Curve to point to the new EE UMA/WiFi Calling servers (currently it points to unc.singlephone.orange.co.uk). The wikipedia page for GAN suggests UMA and 'WiFi calling' are one and the same thing.

[plymouthbloke1974]

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Originally Posted by P_Marsh

Thanks again for all those suggestions. Apparently the Vectone app will work with their PAYG SIMM and runs on a PC which, if true, would be just the ticket. Especially if it allows the PC to receive SMS messages when the phone is down, and the phone to receive them when it is up. Probably too good to be true...

It is unfortunate the Orange UMA service has been dropped, however -- especially given that it is compensating for the MNO's inadequate network -- and would be interesting to know how the new 'Wi-Fi calling' solutions are different. I.e. why can't I just reprogram my Blackberry Curve to point to the new EE UMA/WiFi Calling servers (currently it points to unc.singlephone.orange.co.uk). The wikipedia page for GAN suggests UMA and 'WiFi calling' are one and the same thing.

WiFi calling uses IMS.

I would tackle your claim about EE being "inadequate" but... well....

[d123]

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

EE Wifi calling on pay monthly with an EE supplied phone
http://ee.co.uk/help/phones-and-devi...h-wifi-calling

Not entirely true, it is quite possible to use WifiCalling with a non-EE supplied phone.

[Daveoc64]

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Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974

I would tackle your claim about EE being "inadequate" but... well....

In this case it's clearly factual. You wouldn't need UMA or Wi-Fi calling if the network had coverage...

[Thine Wonk]

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Originally Posted by d123

Not entirely true, it is quite possible to use WifiCalling with a non-EE supplied phone.

Depends on the device, you're correct for iPhone, but for Android it will say something like:-

Please note: WiFi Calling is only available on the EE version of the LG G4, bought directly from us in one of our stores, online at EE.co.uk, or through our telesales team.

[WelshBluebird]

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Depends on the device, you're correct for iPhone, but for Android it will say something like:-

Please note: WiFi Calling is only available on the EE version of the LG G4, bought directly from us in one of our stores, online at EE.co.uk, or through our telesales team.

I think the point was more that if you can flash the EE version of the firmware onto your device then you will be able to use WiFi calling regardless of where you actually got the device from.

It is also the case the sometime a reseller will get their stock from EE and so the device will have the EE firmware on (which was the case with my Galaxy S7 Edge that I got from Mobile Phones Direct).

[d123]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Depends on the device, you're correct for iPhone, but for Android it will say something like:-

Please note: WiFi Calling is only available on the EE version of the LG G4, bought directly from us in one of our stores, online at EE.co.uk, or through our telesales team.

My statement is totally correct, if you had said its only possible to use wificalling on EE supplied stock Android phones you would have been correct, to just say it will only work on EE supplied phones is incorrect.

[Aetnla]

I think EE still does Signal Boxes but only available in EE stores when I last heard about it. I can't remember the thread that last mentioned them. I think they also work with Orange. 3G is required for it to work.

[Aye Up]

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Originally Posted by Aetnla

I think EE still does Signal Boxes but only available in EE stores when I last heard about it. I can't remember the thread that last mentioned them. I think they also work with Orange. 3G is required for it to work.

3G is the signal that is broadcast from an EE Signal Box, its open as well, so anyone on EE can connect to it. Unlike other networks where its restricted to the people of the customers choosing. 3G is the signal broadcast by most femto cells, that said I don't know what spectrum band, someone else may better claify that.

[de525ma]

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Originally Posted by Aye Up

3G is the signal that is broadcast from an EE Signal Box, its open as well, so anyone on EE can connect to it. Unlike other networks where its restricted to the people of the customers choosing. 3G is the signal broadcast by most femto cells, that said I don't know what spectrum band, someone else may better claify that.

2100mhz. EE's only 3G band. You need to be a contract customer to get one, however a 30 day sim only contract will suffice.

[Aye Up]

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Originally Posted by de525ma

2100mhz. EE's only 3G band. You need to be a contract customer to get one, however a 30 day sim only contract will suffice.

I didn't think of that initially until someone pointed it out to me. What about O2 and Vodafone? They both have 3G900 on their networks, I would wonder whether the signal boxes operate on both bands.

I have two sure signal boxes (at 2 different locations), yet I don't know the frequency save the standard 2100 in this country. That said I do have 2 different models, I have never really measured the performance of either of them.

[moox]

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Originally Posted by de525ma

2100mhz. EE's only 3G band. You need to be a contract customer to get one, however a 30 day sim only contract will suffice.

Someone one here got EE to sell them one for £100 with no obligation.

It is unfortunate that EE won't let you lock it down to specific phones though.

[japitts]

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Originally Posted by P_Marsh

Thank you for the replies. Shame about that as UMA was a great solution for me living in a zero-coverage village.

Does anyone know of an equivalent Wi-Fi handover service that will work with a Pay As You Go SIMM? Preferably without requiring an expensive phone.

I was in the same situation, not quite zero-coverage village but the same end result. And indeed, UMA gave the same end-user experience as WiFi calling but using a "legacy" technology. For the same experience, as others have pointed out, you'll need to start using WiFi calling "proper" i.e. on a 4G-enabled device.

You may also be able get an EE Signal Box which I've had installed in one of my problem locations and works a treat, with the only caveat being handovers to the mobile network not being as seamless as with UMA.

[Daveoc64]

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Depends on the device, you're correct for iPhone, but for Android it will say something like:-

Please note: WiFi Calling is only available on the EE version of the LG G4, bought directly from us in one of our stores, online at EE.co.uk, or through our telesales team.

My Android phone was not purchased from EE and it supports Wi-Fi calling.

[Yogimax]

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Originally Posted by Daveoc64

My Android phone was not purchased from EE and it supports Wi-Fi calling.

Which phone?

[Daveoc64]

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Originally Posted by Yogimax

Which phone?

Nexus 6P.

The Nexus 5X supports it too.

[swb1964]

So what was UMA? was it some sort of mini cell thing for the home?