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Kathy and Buster to embark on an affair?? - EastEnders
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wizardt
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Peg ODwyer:
“I hope not, I don't want another stupid affair, & I like Buster with Shirl. Kathy can find a single man. In or out of Walford.”

I don't think Kathy needs a boyfriend yet. She has just escaped from an abusive and toxic marriage and needs time to find herself. She needs to reconnect with her sons but they haven't forgiven her entirely because Ben is a bit frosty with her. If the scriptwriters insist on pairing her with someone, Phil's the only single bloke in the Square. Phil cannot stay single forever and Kathy was one of Phil's true loves and reuniting with her could bring back 90s Phil.
Dr K Noisewater
04-04-2016
God I hope this doesn't happen. Kathy would never have an affair with another woman's fella, she was always the nicest, kindest person on the show. |t's bad enough we've got to accept the whole fake death thing to have her go down this route would makes her look even worse. The original Kathy was a saint.
Peg ODwyer
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by wizardt:
“I don't think Kathy needs a boyfriend yet. She has just escaped from an abusive and toxic marriage and needs time to find herself. She needs to reconnect with her sons but they haven't forgiven her entirely because Ben is a bit frosty with her. If the scriptwriters insist on pairing her with someone, Phil's the only single bloke in the Square. Phil cannot stay single forever and Kathy was one of Phil's true loves and reuniting with her could bring back 90s Phil.”


I agree, she does not need anyone, however, there seems to be a rush to pair her off. And not just her, it seems people can't live alone for long on the square.
sorcha_healy27
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Zeus89:
“How old is kathy in the show like 70-75?

I dont blame buster i would also love to take a ride on saggy Kathy”

She's got a body women half her age would kill for.
Zeus89
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“She's got a body women half her age would kill for.”

Who wouldn't want this?
http://www.famousfix.com/post/gillia...forth-29049153


It looks like she is gonna be attacked on this pic
http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...-Fairbairn.jpg
Ell_Ren
04-04-2016
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Aurora13
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Ell_Ren:
“Ideally I would rather Shirley and Buster stayed together for now. They haven't been explored enough yet. Anyone thinking that Buster is jut insecure about Shirley and Phil? It would seem out of character for Buster to cheat, imo.”

What is Buster character? Lol
cezzy
04-04-2016
I think Kathy & Buster work well together & the affair storyline seems to be the way it's going. I would prefer for Buster & Shirley's relationship to had already ended as I don't think its within Kathy's character to sleep with another woman's man. Problem is I'm not an EE writer so I can't change what will inevitably happen.
Ell_Ren
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“What is Buster character? Lol”

Well, from what we have seen and what he has said about how he loves Shirley, I just don't imagine he would cheat, but I suppose anything is possible and Phil is lingering over him and Shirley. However with Grant returning, it seems more likely that Phil and Sharon will end up back together. I wish they would decide what they want to do with these charaters in a romantic capacity rather than all this partner hopping. Shirley and Phil work well but tptb seem insistent on keeping them apart. Lol
Aurora13
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by Ell_Ren:
“Well, from what we have seen and what he has said about how he loves Shirley, I just don't imagine he would cheat, but I suppose anything is possible and Phil is lingering over him and Shirley. However with Grant returning, it seems more likely that Phil and Sharon will end up back together. I wish they would decide what they want to do with these charaters in a romantic capacity rather than all this partner hopping. Shirley and Phil work well but tptb seem insistent on keeping them apart. Lol”

I think it was a case that Sharon wasn't working floating so they stuck her in with Mitchells. Carter family brought in so Shirley had her own family unit. It worked but time to move on. I don't think Sharon and Phil work long term. Her reaction to his behaviour is leave again and again. She has close ties in Mitchells now so doesn't need to be with Phil to be involved. Shirley is actually more suited to Phil of 21st century. I like Buster and just want him to have more to do. There is definite chemistry between Buster and Kathy.
curvybabes
05-04-2016
I like Buster & Kathy but since Gavin will go mental I'm hoping this isn't leading to Karl's exit.
Ell_Ren
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“I think it was a case that Sharon wasn't working floating so they stuck her in with Mitchells. Carter family brought in so Shirley had her own family unit. It worked but time to move on. I don't think Sharon and Phil work long term. Her reaction to his behaviour is leave again and again. She has close ties in Mitchells now so doesn't need to be with Phil to be involved. Shirley is actually more suited to Phil of 21st century. I like Buster and just want him to have more to do. There is definite chemistry between Buster and Kathy.”

I think so too. I don't think the Sharon of this era works with the Phil of this era at all. I believe pairing her with Phil and giving her an instant family was to stop her being isolated, however, imo, it hasn't worked. I know alot of viewers fall back on the past and what has gone before but taking all of that away, Phil and Sharon do not suit. (imo) I think they ought to move forward and stop relying on Sharon's connection with the Mitchells, draw a line under her and Phil for good, with both her and Phil moving on so there isn't the constant 'will they, won't they?' They could easily bring in Sharon's birth family, recast Vicki, build on her frenemieship with Shirley, and her friendships with Ian and Linda. They can easily build her up as her own character without relying on Phil.

Shirley is more suited to modern Phil and vice versa, I think the chemistry between Steve McFadden and Linda Henry is a big part of why Phil and Shirley are still a popular pairing, given everything that has previously happened between them. It is a testament to them that many viewers are still rooting for Phil and Shirley as a couple. But tptb seem insistent on keeping them apart. If they do reunite, I would like Shirley to stay as she is now and not be reduced to Phil's doormat again, it would have to be an equal partnership. I always liked the dynamic between Phil/Shirley/Ben/Jay when they were written well, it would be good to try and salvage that again, but I am glad that Shirley has her own family on the square.

I haven't seen enough of Kathy and Buster to determine whether I think they have enough chemistry as a couple but I will reserve judgement until the story plays out. I've liked Shirley and Buster but we never really see them as a couple, we get the odd scene now and again, but they haven't ever been developed. I don't know if that is a concious effort from tptb or whether it just sort of played out that way. Though if Kathy and Buster do get together, I would rather it was legitimately rather than an affair as I would like Buster, Shirley, and Kathy to remain friends. Currently I think Buster is feeling neglected hence why he is looking elsewhere.

I'm hoping we don't get a Gavin/Buster/Phil/Kathy type scenario to be honest. I love Kathy but I'd rather they did something different.
Adrian_Ward1
05-04-2016
It looks like it's heading that way
wizardt
05-04-2016
Sharon and Phil work fine and Steve McFadden and Letiia Dean have great chemistry. The actors really enjoy working with each other and always praise each other. I hope they don't drop Sharon and Phil. They have 25 years of history together (on and off screen). Shirley has the Carters. Sharon needs the Mitchells and she has more history with them than Shirley. Glad she still has scenes with the Mitchells in new spoilers.
sorcha_healy27
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by wizardt:
“Sharon and Phil work fine and Steve McFadden and Letiia Dean have great chemistry. The actors really enjoy working with each other and always praise each other. I hope they don't drop Sharon and Phil. They have 25 years of history together (on and off screen). Shirley has the Carters. Sharon needs the Mitchells and she has more history with them than Shirley. Glad she still has scenes with the Mitchells in new spoilers.”

Completely agree. Sharon and the Mitchells are fantastic.

I think Linda Henry is a wonderful actress and a very interesting character despite her being awful at times.
I think she should remain only friends with Phil as when they were a couple they were awful.
_elly001
05-04-2016
I just find it ridiculous that any sane woman would want to be with Phil. Even when he isn't an alcoholic, he's still a nasty, misogynistic and bigoted piece of work. It's a shame as I like Sharon with the rest of the Mitchells - she's brilliant as a mother figure to Ben and Jay - but the further away from Phil she is, the better, IMO. Get her together with Kush and let her have a bit of fun for once.

As for Shirley and Phil, I have no real opinion, but she's probably the only woman on the square who WILL stand up to him, so if he has to be with a woman then it's probably best he's with her. I'd rather see him without a partner, though, as he doesn't deserve one.
bass55
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by _elly001:
“I just find it ridiculous that any sane woman would want to be with Phil. Even when he isn't an alcoholic, he's still a nasty, misogynistic and bigoted piece of work. It's a shame as I like Sharon with the rest of the Mitchells - she's brilliant as a mother figure to Ben and Jay - but the further away from Phil she is, the better, IMO. Get her together with Kush and let her have a bit of fun for once.

As for Shirley and Phil, I have no real opinion, but she's probably the only woman on the square who WILL stand up to him, so if he has to be with a woman then it's probably best he's with her. I'd rather see him without a partner, though, as he doesn't deserve one.”

Basically this. Good post.

I like the Sharon/Phil pairing but I don't like Sharon in doormat mode. I find it very unrealistic that she would stay with him given the utter shit he's thrown her way since they got back together. Shirley would also be a fool to go back to him.
Stuart25
05-04-2016
Not another affair please. Can't anyone have a happy ending in this show?
shrinkingviolet
05-04-2016
Phil shouldn't be with anyone for the foreseeable future - no woman deserves that. It's not like when he was sober he treated Sharon well - he treated her abysmally and got more chances than anyone had a right to have. He's just a bad person - drunk and sober, so why should we want any woman to suffer that?

I think Buster & Shirley work well together - yes, we need more scenes with them but the actors have good chemistry and I can believe that they are characters who have a 40 year relationship with each other. He treats her well, but most importantly, he calls her out when she deserves it too. I find with Shirley/Phil, neither of those things happen and the character suffers for it. It's no coincidence that this period post Dean reveal has been the best Shirley has been - she's happy, she has a family around her...blowing that up for Phil would just be a pretty crappy thing to do to the character. Phil & Shirley have a toxic relationship - they're no good for each other.

Sadly though, it does seem that it's inevitable.
wizardt
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Completely agree. Sharon and the Mitchells are fantastic.

I think Linda Henry is a wonderful actress and a very interesting character despite her being awful at times.
I think she should remain only friends with Phil as when they were a couple they were awful.”

Thanks at least someone agrees with me
I love Sharon with the Mitchells and she is very close with Jay and Ben. I'd hate to see her alone with no links.

Agree that Linda Henry is one of the best actresses and Shirley is popular even though I can't stand her but i concur that she should stay friends with Phil. The Carters were created for her and she doesn't need two families.
kitkat1971
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by Dr K Noisewater:
“God I hope this doesn't happen. Kathy would never have an affair with another woman's fella, she was always the nicest, kindest person on the show. |t's bad enough we've got to accept the whole fake death thing to have her go down this route would makes her look even worse. The original Kathy was a saint.”

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say she was a saint but she was certainly no cheater or other woman. If her relationship was failing she would try and try to make it work and once she'd decided there was no hope, she ended it cleanly before moving on the next man.

But then Kathy would never, never have faked her own death and let her children believe their Mother was dead for money, a man or even fear for her own life.

I've had to accept that as the explanation (even though I hate it) and have only just managed to curb the need to shout "you let your sons think you were dead for 10 years) every time she appears on screen, let alone offers advice to somebody. She is finally managing to fit back in by being normal and oridinary and kind, sensible Kathy who we knew for 15 years. An affair would set them back a long way so I 5on't want them to do it even though i think Buster could be quite a good march - if he were single.

I'm afraid I don't care one jot about how it would affect Shirley, she deserves to be cheated on after the way she has tried to break up relationships, engagements, marriages over the years and relished in taunting the woman as she did it. But I do,'t want Kathy cheapened in such a way.
_elly001
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say she was a saint but she was certainly no cheater or other woman. If her relationship was failing she would try and try to make it work and once she'd decided there was no hope, she ended it cleanly before moving on the next man.

But then Kathy would never, never have faked her own death and let her children believe their Mother was dead for money, a man or even fear for her own life.

I've had to accept that as the explanation (even though I hate it) and have only just managed to curb the need to shout "you let your sons think you were dead for 10 years) every time she appears on screen, let alone offers advice to somebody. She is finally managing to fit back in by being normal and oridinary and kind, sensible Kathy who we knew for 15 years. An affair would set them back a long way so I 5on't want them to do it even though i think Buster could be quite a good march - if he were single.

I'm afraid I don't care one jot about how it would affect Shirley, she deserves to be cheated on after the way she has tried to break up relationships, engagements, marriages over the years and relished in taunting the woman as she did it. But I do,'t want Kathy cheapened in such a way.”

I think Kathy and Buster are inevitable, but hopefully it will be after Shirley and Buster have broken up at some point down the line. I wouldn't like to see an affair between them; I'd like to see Shirley and Buster amicably break up when they both realise they have feelings for other people (Shirley for Phil, Buster for Kathy.) Of course, this is EE and that probably won't happen, but sometimes people CAN be mature during break ups and do it for the right reasons.
Adrian_Ward1
05-04-2016
Would Kathy and Buster make a nice pairing . Would Buster get involved with Gavin ??
katt
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by sarahcadhill:
“They were too close tonight and there was chemistry!!! Kathy needs a new boyfriend and Buster is the perfect man for her. Shirley doesn't love Buster, she wants her old flame back (love Phil and Shirl). Kathy and Buster could have feelings and have an affair??”

I would have thought it was pretty obvious that was where that little interaction was heading
Ell_Ren
05-04-2016
I am hoping that whoever Phil ends up with, because it will be one of them imo, that his recovery will also form a redemptive arc for him, and he will realise what is important. He could then progress and not treat his partner/family so abysmally. I don't see the problem in having Phil in a committed relationship where he doesn't treat his partner like crap and not have all the different women swooning over him, sacrificing their characters. Pick one, let him treat them well, move on.

I'm thinking Buster and Kathy is inevitable but it's quite a u-turn, Buster has been faithful to Shirley and stuck by her. I can only imagine he would look elsewhere because he feels that Shirley isn't interested. It has been made clear that he feels threatened by Phil. If he didn't feel threatened by him, I wouldn't see him cheating. I didn't have Kathy down as a cheat either. But with all the twists, anything is possible.
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