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calico_pie
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“With the iPhone 6 that isn't true - an iPhone 6 64gb that was one year old in Sept 2015 only achieved £200 at trade in store in A grade condition. A nice price but not the £350 that people used to get.”

I just got £135 trade in for a 64GB 5S which seemed pretty good.
d123
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by Faust:
“Your accountant sounds like a top man - thank god for someone with common sense. The thing with the mobile industry is they know the biggest buyers of phones are younger people and they also know they are the biggest impulse buyers and the worst demographic when it comes to managing money.
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I suspect you've just made that up, I know more people who are 35+ who have bought either an iPhone 6/6s/+ or new Galaxy S6/7/edge (quite often buying outright) than 20 somethings.

How about some links to back up what I think is just your opinion masquerading as facts.
d123
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“With the iPhone 6 that isn't true - an iPhone 6 64gb that was one year old in Sept 2015 only achieved £200 at trade in store in A grade condition. A nice price but not the £350 that people used to get.”

Plenty selling for £350 (and even higher) on eBay if you check completed listings.

The price to sell it to a shop like CEX isn't the same as the average selling price by actually selling it yourself.

Same as a car, trading it in gets a lot less that selling it privately yourself or putting it on a forecourt for a commission sale.

But I'm sure you already knew that...
jchamier
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“Plenty selling for £350 (and even higher) on eBay if you check completed listings.

The price to sell it to a shop like CEX isn't the same as the average selling price by actually selling it yourself.

Same as a car, trading it in gets a lot less that selling it privately yourself or putting it on a forecourt for a commission sale.

But I'm sure you already knew that...”

Yep, selling to a shop solves the fees and scammers problems on flea bay. Been stung twice there selling.
CheshireBumpkin
14-04-2016
Thanks everyone - some valid points here.

I don't have the excuse of youth when it comes to impulse tech-buying, sadly!

I would be looking to buy SIM free - I'm mid-contract and have vowed never to buy a handset from an operator again. Less of an issue with iPhone, I realise, but still generally more expensive over the contract term.

Good point on the Applecare sums - I'd probably ditch that in view of the comments.

I have a bit of an aversion to buying second hand smartphones - no real logic behind this, just an irrational fear of paying for someone else's problem device and being out of warranty.

I'll probably hold fire for the moment and see how long I can resist!
daleski75
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“Thanks everyone - some valid points here.

I don't have the excuse of youth when it comes to impulse tech-buying, sadly!

I would be looking to buy SIM free - I'm mid-contract and have vowed never to buy a handset from an operator again. Less of an issue with iPhone, I realise, but still generally more expensive over the contract term.

Good point on the Applecare sums - I'd probably ditch that in view of the comments.

I have a bit of an aversion to buying second hand smartphones - no real logic behind this, just an irrational fear of paying for someone else's problem device and being out of warranty.

I'll probably hold fire for the moment and see how long I can resist! ”

Have a look at my thread here it's food for thought and works out cheaper right now than getting an iPhone sim free + sim only tariff.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2146363
Anika Hanson
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“Yep, selling to a shop solves the fees and scammers problems on flea bay. Been stung twice there selling. ”

There are other places like mazuma. Mazuma are offering £240 for a locked iPhone 64GB and £280 for an unlocked iPhone 6 in 64GB.

In comparison the S6 edge plus which was released one year later than the iPhone 6 will only get you £260 at mazuma.
jchamier
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by Anika Hanson:
“There are other places like mazuma. Mazuma are offering £240 for a locked iPhone 64GB and £280 for an unlocked iPhone 6 in 64GB.”

Agreed, there are better places to trade in - my friend wanted the money that day, so there was no choice other than CEX or Game where we were. Prices change weekly too.

CEX and Apple stores were very close on the same trade in price.
d123
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“Yep, selling to a shop solves the fees and scammers problems on flea bay. Been stung twice there selling. ”

For the sake of an extra £100-£150 I don't mind the problems of selling it myself . Though I haven't used eBay for a while (just due to the fees, I've been lucky with my sales there, plenty of high end phones, cameras and watches sold without any issue) but I've found I can get similar money selling on Gumtree or on forums like AVF.

I sold my iPhone 6 64GB for £400 towards the end of last year using Gumtree, no problem or issues with the sale, I even delivered the phone to its new owners office .
jchamier
14-04-2016
Very nice price ! I had a few scammer problems having to report and wait out the time to get fees money back a few years ago selling used phones.
tdenson
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by Faust:
“You only have to look through threads such as this to see people changing their phones more often than they change their pants and in the main these are high end phones - total madness.”

"madness" is a bit strong. I change my iPhone each year. Let's say I get half the price back if I sell it after 12 months (I never do, as I pass it on to family), then let's say that's £350. Now, as it happens I very much like MacDonalds. "madness" to me is spending £30 on a meal when a fiver will do the job nicely. doesn't take very many meals to recoup that £350 - but each to their own
d123
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“Very nice price ! I had a few scammer problems having to report and wait out the time to get fees money back a few years ago selling used phones.”

That's why I have started using Gumtree out of preference, meeting the person at a public place and only accepting bank notes makes for no possibility of a scammer.
Faust
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“I suspect you've just made that up, I know more people who are 35+ who have bought either an iPhone 6/6s/+ or new Galaxy S6/7/edge (quite often buying outright) than 20 somethings.

How about some links to back up what I think is just your opinion masquerading as facts.”

There's a wealth of information out there, simply because you know more people in the 35+ range who have bought phones means absolutely nothing. Try looking at County Court records, there has been a number of articles published quoting CAB concerns about the amount of personal debt held by young people. Lots more from the mobile industry about who buys the bulk of phones etc. etc. I'm not doing the work for you.

It may not suit your argument to believe what I say, however, it doesn't alter what is and if you don't believe my post - well I can live with that.
Faust
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“"madness" is a bit strong. I change my iPhone each year. Let's say I get half the price back if I sell it after 12 months (I never do, as I pass it on to family), then let's say that's £350. Now, as it happens I very much like MacDonalds. "madness" to me is spending £30 on a meal when a fiver will do the job nicely. doesn't take very many meals to recoup that £350 - but each to their own ”

You are talking about 'junk food' as opposed to what is likely to be a good nutritious meal - I can't take that comment seriously, it's just you trying to bait.

Why not just buy a phone and keep it for say around four years. If you take the average smartphone I will wager there is little in basic operation that a phone from three years ago can't do what a phone of today will do. You buy something that loses 50% of its value in 12 months and you think that's good business acumen?

On the meal front you have heard about cooking your own I take it?
Stiggles
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“"madness" is a bit strong. I change my iPhone each year. Let's say I get half the price back if I sell it after 12 months (I never do, as I pass it on to family), then let's say that's £350. Now, as it happens I very much like MacDonalds. "madness" to me is spending £30 on a meal when a fiver will do the job nicely. doesn't take very many meals to recoup that £350 - but each to their own :)”

A man after my own heart
Faust
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
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I would be looking to buy SIM free - I'm mid-contract and have vowed never to buy a handset from an operator again. ”

No one with any sense would buy any other way than SIM free. Buying on a contract is simply buying on the 'never never' but now called a more acceptable name.
d123
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by Faust:
“There's a wealth of information out there, simply because you know more people in the 35+ range who have bought phones means absolutely nothing. Try looking at County Court records, there has been a number of articles published quoting CAB concerns about the amount of personal debt held by young people. Lots more from the mobile industry about who buys the bulk of phones etc. etc. I'm not doing the work for you.

It may not suit your argument to believe what I say, however, it doesn't alter what is and if you don't believe my post - well I can live with that.”

No, I have work in the industry since 1997 and am basing my argument on seeing who buys phones over the years.

So again, could you provide links to substantiate your opinion.

Originally Posted by Faust:
“The thing with the mobile industry is they know the biggest buyers of phones are younger people”

finbaar
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“No, I have work in the industry since 1997 and am basing my argument on seeing who buys phones over the years.

So again, could you provide links to substantiate your opinion.”

Lets get this right - YOU are asking someone to substantiate their claims? Really?
d123
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by finbaar:
“Lets get this right - YOU are asking someone to substantiate their claims? Really?”

You aren't worth an argument and remind me of a certain saying...
Faust
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“No, I have work in the industry since 1997 and am basing my argument on seeing who buys phones over the years.

So again, could you provide links to substantiate your opinion.”

If you think I'm spending ages trawling through trade articles, county court records and the like simply to prove what I say is correct you have to be joking. Working in the industry should give you ready access to this information in any event.

BTW you cannot substantiate an opinion.
d123
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by Faust:
“If you think I'm spending ages trawling through trade articles, county court records and the like simply to prove what I say is correct you have to be joking. Working in the industry should give you ready access to this information in any event.

BTW you cannot substantiate an opinion. ”

Ok, so it's just your unsubstantiated opinion, everyone has one (as the saying goes).

Of course, it is still wrong, but as an opinion you are quite entitled to hold it.
Faust
14-04-2016
Just one of many reports - this one is ofcom -


Quote:
“Ofcom’s 2015 Communications Market Report, published on 6 August, finds that a third (33%) of internet users see their smartphone as the most important device for going online, compared to 30% who are still sticking with their laptop.

The rise in smartphone surfing marks a clear shift since 2014, when just 22% turned to their phone first, and 40% preferred their laptop.

Smartphones have become the hub of our daily lives and are now in the pockets of two thirds (66%) of UK adults, up from 39% in 2012. The vast majority (90%) of 16-24 year olds own one; but 55-64 year olds are also joining the smartphone revolution, with ownership in this age group more than doubling since 2012, from 19% to 50%.”

Apology accepted d123.
Cloudane
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“"madness" is a bit strong”

Indeed.

The difference between a Nexus 5X (which is terrible BTW, I have one and regret every moment I swapped my iPhone for it, it's a laggy piece of shit) and the latest iPhone is what, £300? Over 24 months = £12.50/month. Over 30 days = 42p per day.

And people pay £.3.80 for a pint of lager when they could be spending £3.20 for a pint of cask ale. Utter madness! They should go see an accountant!
CheshireBumpkin
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by Cloudane:
“They should go see an accountant!”

I wouldn't recommend it. I usually leave feeling depressed after being told off...
Cloudane
15-04-2016
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“I wouldn't recommend it. I usually leave feeling depressed after being told off... ”



I usually just get told that what we have is fine for at least another 15 years!
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