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Look. Whoever is in it, the BBC will try and make us vote for Fatah, but Murray will probably won. I can't see anyone else getting close.
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I think there are always conspiracy theories about who the BBC wants to win. I suspect the reality is they don't care all that much as long as the show gets talked about & decent media coverage.
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The only thing against Murray is that he's won it twice already.
The advantage Mo has is that he hasn't won it at all and maybe won't get another chance. .I think Andy will win it but winning the US Open would definitely seal it. If he wins the USO he will likely be World number 1 later in the year. Final of all 4 slams, winning a couple of them plus an Olympic gold would make him the winner by a country mile imo. |
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If Kell Brook beats GGG next week he has to win it.
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If Brook beats GGG they should give him the Queen and one of the overseas territories as a holiday home as far as i'm concerned, nevermind spoty.
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If Brook beats GGG they should give him the Queen and one of the overseas territories as a holiday home as far as i'm concerned, nevermind spoty.
Ali beating Liston Ali beating Foreman Fury beating Klitschko |
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It's a bit hard to compare to heavyweights, and I wasn't alive for two of those, but Brook is stepping up 2 weight divisions to fight a brilliant boxer that pounds everyone into mulch. It would be arguably the best British win of all time in the sport, or atleast 2nd behind Turpin/SRR.
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Would Brook beating Golovkin be like
Ali beating Liston Ali beating Foreman Fury beating Klitschko Brook beating the mild-mannered monster would certainly get him on the short list but even so he still would not win it. |
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^^^The problem is as Hayden pointed out he's locked away on pay per view so if he does win its not something that is going to register with the public at large.
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Look. Whoever is in it, the BBC will try and make us vote for Fatah, but Murray will probably won. I can't see anyone else getting close.
Tinkler would be a great choice as Young Sports Personality of the year, upstaged Fragopane at Olympics Would like GB Women's hockey team to win Team of the Year, but think it will go to Leicester City Coach, would like Simon Derry to get it Overseas, Michael Phelps would be a deserving winner. Please not Serena Williams or Usain Bolt, Phelps's achievement is pretty special Lifetime Achievement, about time Steve Davis was given this accolade. |
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I'm not saying your list was bad, just saying I think the BBC will be very conscious of gender balance.
As for who they could drop, they could get rid of Danny Willett and Gareth Bale (recognise Wales by giving them team of the year of Coleman coach of the year, Bale arguably wasn't even the best player for Wales at the Euros). Then add in a representative of the Women's hockey team - you could go for Kate Richardson Walsh as the inspirational captain or Maddie Hinch as the standout star. Plus you can put in Charlotte Dujardin for defending her Olympic title. They might not be 'more deserving' than the men they replaced on your list but they wouldn't be indefensible choices either. |
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Overseas, Michael Phelps would be a deserving winner. Please not Serena Williams or Usain Bolt, Phelps's achievement is pretty special
Lifetime Achievement, about time Steve Davis was given this accolade. |
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I wonder about Justin Rose if he holes the winning put in the Ryder Cup to go alongside his Gold medal at the Olympics, that would be some way to round off a year, that might push him up the odds a bit.
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Phelps will probably get overseas and I wouldn't criticise that. But I don't think his achievements are any more special than Bolt's. Great swimmers often win at least 4 or 5 medals in an Olympics. It's far too testing for track events for that to happen. As Spitz and Phelps have showed, you get a truly exceptional swimmer every generation. Someone like Bolt comes along after several generations.
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Overseas Personality is now also decided by public vote, so can't see Phelps beating Bolt.
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I wonder about Justin Rose if he holes the winning put in the Ryder Cup to go alongside his Gold medal at the Olympics, that would be some way to round off a year, that might push him up the odds a bit.
To me a golfer would require a minimum two majors in a non Olympic Ryder Cup winning year including an Open and even that wasn't enough for McIlroy in 2014. Also agree that Bolt must be a shoo in for the overseas award. |
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Farah gets my vote, he deserves it, and you could argue he is the greatest distance runner of all time now.
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He is undoubtedly a great distance runner, but by no means the greatest. He only just creeps into the top 70 fastest 5000m ever and 28th fastest 5000m.
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He is undoubtedly a great distance runner, but by no means the greatest. He only just creeps into the top 70 fastest 5000m ever and 28th fastest 5000m.
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Going by your argument then, the greatest 10,000m runner of all time must be Kenenisa Bekele, yet he hasn't won as many medals as Mo at Worlds, Olympics etc. And Mo still has a few years left.
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It's going to be another tough year for the people selecting the short list, I think they will likely have 12 names like 2012, don't think they can justify having it longer than that as as tough as it looks, it's not going to be tougher than it was then, I don't see the point trying to do a shortlist now when there are so many unknown factors still in play. The only thing I feel I could say with confidence is Farah and Murray will be two of the top 3. Murray, should he win the US Open and/or help GB retain the Davis Cup would surely become nailed on to win though. Farah has unperformed relatively in the past in the public vote, but this year he won't have to share the track and field vote so that will aid his cause. Quote:
He is undoubtedly a great distance runner, but by no means the greatest. He only just creeps into the top 70 fastest 5000m ever and 28th fastest 5000m.
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Going by your argument then, the greatest 10,000m runner of all time must be Kenenisa Bekele, yet he hasn't won as many medals as Mo at Worlds, Olympics etc. And Mo still has a few years left.
Someone like Nicholas Kemboi or Paul Tergat is probably a better point of comparison. |
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I don't think that your comment about Bekele is entirely fair. He has won 8 gold medals at world and Olympic level, long with 11 world cross country golds, which while not having the profile of track and field is still a great achievement. I do think he is a great of the sport too.
Someone like Nicholas Kemboi or Paul Tergat is probably a better point of comparison. |
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Hamilton shouldn't be anywhere near this award so with any luck it'll go to Mo Farah.
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Shame that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of appreciation for Kobe Bryant and his career, he really should be up for the lifetime achievement award.
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