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Sport's Personality Of The Year 2016 Odds (Skybet)
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clever3000
11-09-2016
Although there is speculation about Steve Davis winning Lifetime Achievement award what about it going to Tanni Grey Thompson. It seems the perfect time to do it in a Paralympic year and also she is fully deserving of the award for the work that she has done for Paralympic Sport.
Darren Lethem
11-09-2016
Originally Posted by clever3000:
“Although there is speculation about Steve Davis winning Lifetime Achievement award what about it going to Tanni Grey Thompson. It seems the perfect time to do it in a Paralympic year and also she is fully deserving of the award for the work that she has done for Paralympic Sport.”

Steve Davis is just a suggestion which I think a couple think is a very good shout. As is Dame Tanni. Good call.
appledash
12-09-2016
a great run for mo yesterday - keeping that profile high
JauntyMonty
12-09-2016
Originally Posted by posiepebbles:
“And Adam Peaty definitely has to be in. Only the one gold, true, but two massive world records in two days is amazing, not to mention the relay team being highly unlikely to have won silver without his efforts.”

Don't forget the silver in the medley relay. For me he has to be on the shortlist along with Farah, Andy Murray, Froome, Trott, Kenny and Whitlock. The likes of Storey and Cockroft could stake their claim by the end of the week.
Makosi's pants
12-09-2016
Originally Posted by appledash:
“a great run for mo yesterday - keeping that profile high ”

I know what all the arguements about Mo V Murray but I really think Mo would be the best choice. Even Bekele couldn't do what he did and Viren was juiced.
appledash
12-09-2016
The only argument I see IS this is the 3rd olympics on the spin that athletics may not win !! And if you clearly think about that fact you may come to the conclusion I have , surely it has to be mo farahs year - I just can't see this Olympic year not having a athletics winner of sports personality , I'm wishing it to happen
owen10
13-09-2016
I think Sascha Kindred could be in the running after winning Gold tonight his first since Beijing also his seventh Gold medal in his Paralympic career, and is competing in his last Olympics
batdude_uk1
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“I think Sascha Kindred could be in the running after winning Gold tonight his first since Beijing also his seventh Gold medal in his Paralympic career, and is competing in his last Olympics”

I would give him a knighthood, he is unbelievable.

What a career he has had, and what a way to finish it!
Monkey Harris
13-09-2016
Wont be in the running. Another relatively obscure name.
batdude_uk1
13-09-2016
So many excellent performances in the Paralympics, Georgie Hermitage getting two gold medals is another one that should be in the running to be on the shortlist.

You could have about 40 people on that list at this rate, and they would all deserve to be on it!
Monkey Harris
13-09-2016
Maybe they could have a separate award for the Paralympics to save all this gushing encroaching on the main award.
Mark F
13-09-2016
The reason people might be put off voting for Farah won't be because of him but because of his wife who seems to get into all sorts of little scraps and arguments!
clever3000
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“The reason people might be put off voting for Farah won't be because of him but because of his wife who seems to get into all sorts of little scraps and arguments!”

You would think that most of that will have been forgotten by the time we get to December. If people are not voting for Farah just because of his wifes behaviour it really does seem fickle. His achievements in the 5000 and 10,000 meters are outstanding and he deserves to be a leading contender for the award no matter of his wifes behaviour.
batdude_uk1
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Monkey Harris:
“Maybe they could have a separate award for the Paralympics to save all this gushing encroaching on the main award.”

Why should there be a separate award?? They are athletes just like the Olympic games competitors are, or Lewis Hamilton is in F1 etc.
appledash
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“The reason people might be put off voting for Farah won't be because of him but because of his wife who seems to get into all sorts of little scraps and arguments!”

No different than Catherine Wiggins - and Brad did OK the only people who will not be voting for mo are more likely Scottish cyclist - I can't see any other reason why mo wouldn't get votes other than those 2 facts , your either a two wheel fan or a Andy Murray fan and NOTHING is going to change the odd minority's thinking that even if Murray only won a raffle all year he would probably make the short list and too many people bang the drum for Andy and would still find 100 reasons why a raffle win would be a worthy reason why he should win spoty ! there is other sports out there other than tennis or cycling and to prove my point

2008 cycling
2011 cycling
2012 cycling
2013 tennis
2015 tennis

but hay ,I just want too see a different sport on the list and with any luck someone smiling
Mark F
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by clever3000:
“You would think that most of that will have been forgotten by the time we get to December. If people are not voting for Farah just because of his wifes behaviour it really does seem fickle. His achievements in the 5000 and 10,000 meters are outstanding and he deserves to be a leading contender for the award no matter of his wifes behaviour.”

Of course and I doubt most sports fans wouldn't care what a partner does..

We've probably all had a bust up with a airline or two anyway!

Said more in jest.

I wonder if another real reason might be the issues over the drugs saga relating to his coach although again that was in the past.

On a sporting level there is no reason for Mo not to be in real contention.

I just don't think he'll win though.
appledash
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Of course and I doubt most sports fans wouldn't care what a partner does..

We've probably all had a bust up with a airline or two anyway!

Said more in jest.

I wonder if another real reason might be the issues over the drugs saga relating to his coach although again that was in the past.

On a sporting level there is no reason for Mo not to be in real contention.

I just don't think he'll win though.”

Like I said Bradley Wiggins wife had quite a few spats with people in the year Bradley won and I remember Andy murrays wife being pulled for swearing at another tennis player during a match live on TV and Andy went on to win that year SO maybe it's a good omen the wife's getting stuck inn
posiepebbles
14-09-2016
Personally, I thought Darren had a point. I'll probably vote for Mo but there are others I would certainly consider, including Murray (especially if he has a good Davis Cup). There are many, many deserving candidates this year and you don't need to be a Scottish cyclist to believe that.

Although athletics is easily my favourite sport, I hugely enjoyed many other events in Rio and there were at least a couple of people who equaled Mo's feat of multiple golds in consecutive Olympics. Not to mention those who won a single gold in events which bring their own challenges, for example sustaining a long career in an endurance sport takes something pretty special.

Laura Trott became the most successful female British Olympian ever, Adam Peaty smashed the world record twice in two days and would almost certainly have two golds if the 50 metres was included, Max Whitlock did something no British man has done and did it in style - twice!, Jason Kenny joined Chris Hoy as joint holder of the record for most Olympic golds, Alistair Brownlee was the first person to defend a triathlon gold, Pete Reed and Andy Hodge won gold for the third Olympics in a row... I could go on.

Really don't know how I'm going to choose this year but it certainly won't have anything to do with anyone's race, religion, spouse, favourite pet or any other irrelevancy. ETA: And I don't appreciate anybody suggesting that it would.
batdude_uk1
14-09-2016
Dame Sarah gets yet another gold to add to her huge collection of medals, thus pushing her claim to be included on the list even further!

And we still have Hannah Cockcroft going for another medal to try and get a double, just like Georgia Hermitage got!

At this rate even having two gold medals might not be good enough to make the list, such is the very high standards (watch out all those Mo fans!).
Meols
14-09-2016
Medals in the Paralympics are a bit more easily achieved, especially when you can switch between sports for them and compete against a smaller number of competitors.
batdude_uk1
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by Meols:
“Medals in the Paralympics are a bit more easily achieved, especially when you can switch between sports for them and compete against a smaller number of competitors.”

I wouldn't say that they are easier, far from it, if anything they are much harder to come by considering the ailments that the athletes have to overcome to get those medals.

I don't know how for example a one legged person jumps so high in the high jump!
So remarkable really.
Nova21
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by appledash:
“Like I said Bradley Wiggins wife had quite a few spats with people in the year Bradley won and I remember Andy murrays wife being pulled for swearing at another tennis player during a match live on TV and Andy went on to win that year SO maybe it's a good omen the wife's getting stuck inn ”

Wiggo's wife stuff was much less known, I'd never heard of it until u mentioned it here... Mo's wife is seen at end of all his races and her 'tantrums' are more widely reported. She could have a minor influence....

I've moved from thinking Murray should get it to thinking that Mo should get it. Unprecedented achievement by British Olympian in events we have never won, let alone on multiple occasions.
Meols
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I wouldn't say that they are easier, far from it, if anything they are much harder to come by considering the ailments that the athletes have to overcome to get those medals.

I don't know how for example a one legged person jumps so high in the high jump!
So remarkable really.”

The problem is that you aren't putting the achievements in any kind of context whatsoever.

It would be harder nigh impossible for a one legged person to win an Olympic gold medal in a high jump, but there are far less one legged high jumpers and they are only beating people with similar ailments. So the bar of achievement is only to beat people on their own level field. If they are overcoming having one leg to jump 2.45 in an Olympic High Jump final its a different matter entirely.

Do you think it likely for example that Jason Kenny having won a cycling gold could win a 100m athetics sprint bronze, if the answer is yes you may well have a fair point.

However as he would have no chance, it vindicates my argument and demolishes yours.

Its not the fault of those involved but its no more than the truth as far as I am concerned.
NorthernNinny
14-09-2016
I think Mo should get it . When did Britain last win a medal at the Olympics in either of his events? I thought he would get SP 4 years ago tbh.

Never heard the talk about his wife's trantrums before though.
posiepebbles
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by Meols:
“The problem is that you aren't putting the achievements in any kind of context whatsoever.

It would be harder nigh impossible for a one legged person to win an Olympic gold medal in a high jump, but there are far less one legged high jumpers and they are only beating people with similar ailments. So the bar of achievement is only to beat people on their own level field. If they are overcoming having one leg to jump 2.45 in an Olympic High Jump final its a different matter entirely.

Do you think it likely for example that Jason Kenny having won a cycling gold could win a 100m athetics sprint bronze, if the answer is yes you may well have a fair point.

However as he would have no chance, it vindicates my argument and demolishes yours.

Its not the fault of those involved but its no more than the truth as far as I am concerned.”

And, of course, how do you judge for SPOTY purposes whether, for say, a runner with one leg has faced tougher challenges and therefore achieved more than a swimmer with one arm? Even within specific sports the classification system is pretty controversial - although perhaps I really shouldn't be igniting that particular debate as it's kind of been done to death...
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