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Hamilton won the F1 championship last year and Murray beat him despite 'only' winning the Davis Cup. I think only Olympians can stop Murray from getting his third win.
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Sports personality prediction
Team of the year - Leicester city
Coach of the year - Chris Coleman Overseas personality - serena williams Sports personality winner - mo farah This is just my opinion - it just looks right to me ,but hay just my opinion ! Cheers . |
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Team of the year - Leicester city
Coach of the year - Chris Coleman Overseas personality - serena williams Sports personality winner - mo farah This is just my opinion - it just looks right to me ,but hay just my opinion ! Cheers . I suspect a lot of people still hold Mo's African birth against him (Froome has the same problem), difficult to see him win unless everyone else fails at the Olympics, even then Murray would probably still get it. |
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I don't agree at all that Mo is viewed in the same category as Froome. I think outside of the Britain First racist types everyone correctly views Mo as British. I just think that he hasn't won because his biggest moments are obviusly in Olympic years with lots of competition and his personality is less easy to love than other challengers.
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I don't agree at all that Mo is viewed in the same category as Froome. I think outside of the Britain First racist types everyone correctly views Mo as British. I just think that he hasn't won because his biggest moments are obviusly in Olympic years with lots of competition and his personality is less easy to love than other challengers.
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Hamilton won the F1 championship last year and Murray beat him despite 'only' winning the Davis Cup. I think only Olympians can stop Murray from getting his third win.
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I don't agree at all that Mo is viewed in the same category as Froome. I think outside of the Britain First racist types everyone correctly views Mo as British. I just think that he hasn't won because his biggest moments are obviusly in Olympic years with lots of competition and his personality is less easy to love than other challengers.
Why do you think his personality is less easy to love? Froome is an interesting case. Some don't consider him truly British because he's never lived here yet I'm sure there are those in Kenya who would see him as a "colonial", especially when changing allegiance. |
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I wonder if Wales could sneak the Team award.
England rugby with the Grand Slam and winning in Australia are also in with a shout. Plus you never know what stories the Olympics will throw up. The individual award is always very unpredictable in an Olympic year as the winner could easily be someone we haven't heard of yet but who will be a household name come December. |
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The Team award is going to be very competitive. Wales have a good case but I suppose it depends on where Leicester are in the table come December. If they are near the top then they would still be favourites but if they are in the relegation zone they would damage their claim.
England rugby with the Grand Slam and winning in Australia are also in with a shout. Plus you never know what stories the Olympics will throw up. The individual award is always very unpredictable in an Olympic year as the winner could easily be someone we haven't heard of yet but who will be a household name come December. Leicester being in the relegation zone would not have any affect on their claim to the team award at all, (or rather it should not do), if anything, it might show just what an extraordinary feat of winning the league it was. They should have this category all to themselves, as the only way another team could have beaten them is if say Wales or Iceland had actually win the European Championships, they didn't so they should not be anywhere near Leicester winning the team award. |
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Cav or Froome anyone?
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Leicester being in the relegation zone would not have any affect on their claim to the team award at all, (or rather it should not do), if anything, it might show just what an extraordinary feat of winning the league it was.
They should have this category all to themselves, as the only way another team could have beaten them is if say Wales or Iceland had actually win the European Championships, they didn't so they should not be anywhere near Leicester winning the team award. |
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Cav or Froome anyone?
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David_Flett1 was probably right in pointing out that Froome might not seem to be that British to a lot of general sporting fans due to the fact he was born in Kenya and not really lived here...
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I don't think Froome and Farah are comparable. Froome has never lived in the UK, so his Britishness feels like a technicality, whereas Farah grew up here and was shaped by the British system, and sounds British. The problem for Farah is that most of his fans are also fans of Jess Ennis, and she scores that little bit higher on everything and absorbs a lot of the votes he might get. So long as both are nominated, she's going to beat him IMO. They are both widely popular, but don't have a big dedicated following, and are now risk being expected to be brilliant, so it's no longer news.
Assuming Froome wins TdF, he'll make the short-list, and people admire him, but he lacks that connection, and I don't think he's bothered to make one. He'd rather get on with the day job than become a celebrity. In a quiet year, that might be fine, but if we have a decent Olympics, he'll be overlooked. Murray has booked his place on the short-list, and has proven that the public do like to vote for him, even if some insist he's unpopular. Winning Wimbledon on BBC1 with excellent ratings helps, but it didn't feel as monumental as last time, especially against the backdrop of the political fall-out from BREXIT. He'll probably be top 5, but depending on the Olympics, will need another big win later in the year or during the Olympics to win. A lot of tennis fans will be happy to let someone from another sport get it this year. It will be interesting to see how they acknowledge the wheelchair tennis stars. The sport has had a bit of a break-through year, and with Brits doing well, there is plenty to celebrate, but it's still a tiny sport compared with the main Wimbledon draw, and I'm not sure they'd want two tennis players on the list. But if Gordon Reid gets a couple of golds in Rio, he'll be hard to ignore. Hamilton will also make the list if he wins, but I don't think it will be enough to get him top 3 this year. That could be influenced by a very dramatic and exciting finish, but IMO Wimbledon trumps Formula One, and I think most of the voting public think that way too. |
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It shouldn't, but look at the difference at Chelsea between May and December last year. If Leicester are struggling at the end of the year it will take the shine off their achievements which will already seem a long time ago.
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I think Murray will win again. He's like Jeremy Corbyn - if he's got enough core support that if he's on the ballot he wins. I suspect that Chris Froome will ultimately go down in history as the best British sportsman (or sportswoman) never to win the award. He's probably Britain's best sportsman at the moment. Quote:
Assuming Froome wins TdF, he'll make the short-list, and people admire him, but he lacks that connection, and I don't think he's bothered to make one. He'd rather get on with the day job than become a celebrity. In a quiet year, that might be fine, but if we have a decent Olympics, he'll be overlooked.
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my money is on any gold medal track&field star
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I think Murray must be the strong favourite with the Olympic winners vote being split between Mo, Jess and whoever else does well
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I think Murray must be the strong favourite with the Olympic winners vote being split between Mo, Jess and whoever else does well
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Lot of nonsense being talked in this thread.
Murray isn't winning because of core support. Wimbledon is one of the most watched sporting events in Britain every year, it's as mainstream as it gets. Core support is when petrolheads push forward a racing driver or when rugby league fans have a campaign to get some well respected player who is unknown to 90% of the country into the top three. Murray's Wimbledon wins have been among the most watched events in that period with over ten million tuning in to each. Compare that to the Tour de France where the audience is measured in the hundreds of thousands. Murray winning three out of four years would not be 'farcical' in the slightest. Winning Wimbledon twice in four years and nigh on single handedly winning the Davis Cup (which GB hadn't won for 79 years) in a relatively quiet year for British sporting triumphs make it perfectly natural that he's won that many times. Indeed he could easily have won a fourth but his 2012 US Open victory and Olympic gold came in one of the most crowded years for British sporting success that we've ever seen. If someone has a great Olympics and beats Murray I'd have no problem with that but to say it would be somehow farcical if Murray won for a third time in four years (and the BBC might need to step in to put a stop to it!!!!) is in itself a farcical statement. |
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Lot of nonsense being talked in this thread.
Murray isn't winning because of core support. Wimbledon is one of the most watched sporting events in Britain every year, it's as mainstream as it gets. Core support is when petrolheads push forward a racing driver or when rugby league fans have a campaign to get some well respected player who is unknown to 90% of the country into the top three. Murray's Wimbledon wins have been among the most watched events in that period with over ten million tuning in to each. Compare that to the Tour de France where the audience is measured in the hundreds of thousands. Murray winning three out of four years would not be 'farcical' in the slightest. Winning Wimbledon twice in four years and nigh on single handedly winning the Davis Cup (which GB hadn't won for 79 years) in a relatively quiet year for British sporting triumphs make it perfectly natural that he's won that many times. Indeed he could easily have won a fourth but his 2012 US Open victory and Olympic gold came in one of the most crowded years for British sporting success that we've ever seen. If someone has a great Olympics and beats Murray I'd have no problem with that but to say it would be somehow farcical if Murray won for a third time in four years (and the BBC might need to step in to put a stop to it!!!!) is in itself a farcical statement. |
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While the Davis Cup victory was largely down to Murray it was still in theory a team effort so he was in effect awarded twice for the same achievement. The BBC would not have been unreasonable not to nominate him last year based on his singles performance.
Between his two team wins, his two individual wins, and the junior award, he's done very well. As a high profile, competitive, international all-round sport, it's not surprising that a top tennis player continues to do well, and he will deserve to be on the short-list this year. However, as a tennis fan, and someone who thinks Murray is one of our greatest living athletes, I think it might be for the best if someone who does something great in Rio wins it this year. I watched Mo at the Anniversary Games yesterday, and he won with style. It's a lesser field than the Olympic one, but it got me thinking that a spectacular win in Rio might propel him into the top spot. The problem is that a spectacular win will have people wondering how he did it. Not enough to say he doesn't deserve it, but perhaps enough to make them less likely to vote five times like the rugby fans do. The track & field athletes in particular will face this problem, which is a shame. |
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And he has had allegations thrown at him about drugs before - like Froome.
Hamilton probably doesn't appeal to the average sports fan either due to his personality and having the best car by miles.. |
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I think Murray must be the strong favourite with the Olympic winners vote being split between Mo, Jess and whoever else does well
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I suspect that Chris Froome will ultimately go down in history as the best British sportsman (or sportswoman) never to win the award. He's probably Britain's best sportsman at the moment. |
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