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If Justin Rose gets the winning point in the Ryder Cup, then that will be Willet well and truly off of the list.
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The masters golf is the no 1 golf tournament and in the top 10 of sporting events yearly ,this is the highest profile golf tournament and Danny Willet won it , so he's on the list ,if Justin rose didn't win gold in Rio BUT won the masters none of us would be having this debate ,but because Danny Willet did win the masters he seems a dought ,why ? Is it because he's not as famous as other high profile golfers , I see no excuse He's on the list for me
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I don't think any of the golfers will be troubling the trophy engraver but for me Danny Willett is the only one who should be anywhere near the shortlist.
Always been a decent player but this season he has won in Europe, also won his first major and is now in the world's top 10 ranked players. Rose's year consists of dropping out of the world's top 10 and his solitary win of 2016 was in a very poor field. Yes, Justin really got into the Olympic spirit and there was no more deserving winner of the golf medal than him but for me a green jacket pisses all over a golf gold medal from a great height. If Willett does not make the shortlist I will eat a golf ball.
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I don't think any of the golfers will be troubling the trophy engraver but for me Danny Willett is the only one who should be anywhere near the shortlist.
Always been a decent player but this season he has won in Europe, also won his first major and is now in the world's top 10 ranked players. Rose's year consists of dropping out of the world's top 10 and his solitary win of 2016 was in a very poor field. Yes, Justin really got into the Olympic spirit and there was no more deserving winner of the golf medal than him but for me a green jacket pisses all over a golf gold medal from a great height. If Willett does not make the shortlist I will eat a golf ball. ![]()
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Yes, Justin really got into the Olympic spirit and there was no more deserving winner of the golf medal than him but for me a green jacket pisses all over a golf gold medal from a great height.
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I don't think any of the golfers will be troubling the trophy engraver but for me Danny Willett is the only one who should be anywhere near the shortlist.
Always been a decent player but this season he has won in Europe, also won his first major and is now in the world's top 10 ranked players. Rose's year consists of dropping out of the world's top 10 and his solitary win of 2016 was in a very poor field. Yes, Justin really got into the Olympic spirit and there was no more deserving winner of the golf medal than him but for me a green jacket pisses all over a golf gold medal from a great height. If Willett does not make the shortlist I will eat a golf ball. ![]() hope you have a great sob story
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Paddy power have just gone 10/1 on Anthony Joshua ? It's that kind of betting activity that makes me wonder it's sham - forget about the odds and goe with the usual names picked on the short list and a few stand out superstars and there's your 12 - were debating Danny Willets short list posiblity and Anthony Joshua is one of the favourites ? Seriously who believes that
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Paddy power have just gone 10/1 on Anthony Joshua ? It's that kind of betting activity that makes me wonder it's sham - forget about the odds and goe with the usual names picked on the short list and a few stand out superstars and there's your 12 - were debating Danny Willets short list posiblity and Anthony Joshua is one of the favourites ? Seriously who believes that
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Paddy power have just gone 10/1 on Anthony Joshua ? It's that kind of betting activity that makes me wonder it's sham - forget about the odds and goe with the usual names picked on the short list and a few stand out superstars and there's your 12 - were debating Danny Willets short list posiblity and Anthony Joshua is one of the favourites ? Seriously who believes that
![]() Anthony Joshua will defend his world heavyweight title fight a couple of days before the shortlist is announced and 2 weeks before the event takes place. Coupled with the fact that the two other boxers who were in with a shout ( Tyson Fury and Kell Brook ) have fallen by the wayside it makes sense to cut his price. Boxing fans could lump on him now at 100/1. He wins his fight and comes right in in the betting, so why not do it now ? The bookies are anticipating what may happen plus I am guessing they have had a few bets on him. |
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Its not a scam, it makes 100% absolute perfect sense
Anthony Joshua will defend his world heavyweight title fight a couple of days before the shortlist is announced and 2 weeks before the event takes place. Coupled with the fact that the two other boxers who were in with a shout ( Tyson Fury and Kell Brook ) have fallen by the wayside it makes sense to cut his price. Boxing fans could lump on him now at 100/1. He wins his fight and comes right in in the betting, so why not do it now ? The bookies are anticipating what may happen plus I am guessing they have had a few bets on him. |
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Its not a scam, it makes 100% absolute perfect sense
Anthony Joshua will defend his world heavyweight title fight a couple of days before the shortlist is announced and 2 weeks before the event takes place. Coupled with the fact that the two other boxers who were in with a shout ( Tyson Fury and Kell Brook ) have fallen by the wayside it makes sense to cut his price. Boxing fans could lump on him now at 100/1. He wins his fight and comes right in in the betting, so why not do it now ? The bookies are anticipating what may happen plus I am guessing they have had a few bets on him. |
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If he loses the fight he won't be on the shortlist.
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From what price? (Anthony Joshua),
Still 25's at numerous places should anyway want a few pennies on him |
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They are only balancing their book. They've maybe had a few bets on him at large prices and don't want a high liability so they slash his price and it stops the money coming.
Still 25's at numerous places should anyway want a few pennies on him on the double
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In any other year winning the FedEx Cup would probably have got McIlroy on the list but even winning the Ryder Cup probably won't be enough.
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There surely must be a section in the show for iconic people like Ali and Arnold who have passed away this year.
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In any other year winning the FedEx Cup would probably have got McIlroy on the list but even winning the Ryder Cup probably won't be enough.
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There surely must be a section in the show for iconic people like Ali and Arnold who have passed away this year.
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Has anyone ever won sports personality on the strength of a single event that was not watched live at the time ? All of the winners of this event won sports personality for a sporting event watched live as it happened by a global audience ! And all the winners sporting moment was watched by millions as it happened - we as a nation would have to have tuned in to see it happened , that's the most important part of the nominee , I can't think of anyone who has won outside this Critera .
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Has anyone ever won sports personality on the strength of a single event that was not watched live at the time ? All of the winners of this event won sports personality for a sporting event watched live as it happened by a global audience ! And all the winners sporting moment was watched by millions as it happened - we as a nation would have to have tuned in to see it happened , that's the most important part of the nominee , I can't think of anyone who has won outside this Critera .
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You could argue that footballers have won it for what they did through a season/career rather than one single match
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You could argue that footballers have won it for what they did through a season/career rather than one single match
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So just Ryan giggs , your right more likely carrer win but a lot of silverware Won watched by millions or gazza the clown - so highly unlikely a winner coming from A Moment watched on catch up ?
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Same could be said of AP McCoy. Although he won the Grand National the same year he won SPOTY it was more to being a celebration of his career. You dont get nominated for winning the National only. McCoy's win was more for his career achievements than it was for winning the National.
The same for Ryan Giggs |
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Same could be said of AP McCoy. Although he won the Grand National the same year he won SPOTY it was more to being a celebration of his career. You dont get nominated for winning the National only. McCoy's win was more for his career achievements than it was for winning the National.
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I don't disagree with the notion that winning the Masters is a bigger deal in golf, but as I've said before, SPOTY is not purely about sporting achievement it's about impact. If you did a poll and asked people to name a successful British golfer from this year, Rose would fairly obviously be significantly more name checked than Willett. Just the way it is
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hope you have a great sob story