Justin rose is never gonna be on that short list and in respect your right a lot of people watched Justin play golf and win a gold BUT far far less watched brownlee and yet he's the favourite GO FIGURE ? Besides that unlike any other Olympic hero I bet you £10 Justin rose was the only Olympian to board his private jet G5 thingy out of Rio

I would think the male American basketball side might have had private jets to take them back home.

Steve Redgrave also won for the cumulative five gold medals he won not the one in Sydney, which he won in a crew in which he was arguably at that stage the weaker member of due to his cumulative health issues (though still worthy of his place for sure).

People will win different years for different reasons, it's all about impact. And people make an impact on the public in different ways - sometimes it's for one moment of brilliance, sometimes it's the cumulation of a lifetime of sporting success, sometimes because of a moment of great humanity or courage. It's probably what has helped make the award endure actually, because it's generally all the less predictable because of this.

Yeh when I think about it I can see BOLT stepping on to his G5

A great deal was made of Andy Murray having a private jet waiting to take him to his next tournament in Canada during his final. The fact that he was sharing it with Rafa Nadal (and their respective teams) added to the picture, especially as the match turned into a marathon and they could paint a picture of Rafa sitting in a plane on the runway, checking the scores on his phone.

Of course, most of the British athletes came home on a chartered flight, which is in many respects a private jet. Just a great big one.

I'm not sure it's relevant for most people. Of course, some people would rather support the athletes that aren't raking it in from big prize money or sponsorship deals, and that's a perfectly reasonable approach to the vote. But the fact that some of the rich athletes are prepared to sacrifice their performance at big money tournaments, and spend their own money to help them take part in the Olympics lends them credibility.

I presume you have a favourite you'd like to win appledash, so it might just be easier for you to say just who it is, and why they ought to win, instead of inventing peculiar criteria for inclusion that just happens to exclude many of the favourites, or pointing out random reasons why people shouldn't like world class athletes.

For myself, I think the whole SPOTY should be a celebration of many athletes, and unfortunately the list won't be long enough to include everyone that deserves it. IMO, it goes against the spirit of the awards to go through the top contenders (except your personal favourite) to complain about them.

Hate to be pedantic here but that was for the Cincinnati Masters which is held in Ohio, USA. The private jet did make sense however considering Nadal was scheduled to be playing that next day in Cincinnati. Although Murray wasnt playing then the move did make sense.

Well we can assume your not a detective scroll back a few pages sparkle you will see I don't bat for the tartan army

Why would I think you did? I don't think you can even bet for "The Tartan Army" and as you've already got a couple of irrational digs in about Andy Murray, then that was obvious.

I mentioned him because he's a two time winner and one of the favourites and people were using it as evidence of his dedication in having one waiting, not holding it against him.

I have an idea of who you want to win, based on them being the only 'favourite' you've not complained about. I'm just interested if you'll come out and say it, or if you want to maintain the pretence of making impartial observations about why others don't deserve it!

One thing i did find odd though was that he rented a private house rather than staying in the Olympic village like Danny Willet did

I said BAT NOT BET ! Please read clearly I said " I don't bat for the tartan army "in other words I'm not a supporter !!! There is only one stand out winner for me Sparkle a very overdue winner in my opinion - have you seen the picture of Murray with his Olympic gold ? He has a face like a well kept grave and when he talks oh dear quite a drone drone bore my favourite looked like a lit Christmas tree with his gold medal and a speech to make you feel proud to be British so no I don't want grave face to win but I do want Christmas tree smile to win easily - just my own personal opinion ,just me

Yeah, we all know you hate him, as you've said it so often. I was poking fun at your lack of subtlety and dubious reasons given for him, and others that aren't your favourite, not winning.


I thought he was in the Olympic village. He definitely stayed there for some of the time, because he was apparently across the corridor from the Murrays and other tennis players, and upstairs from some other athletes who said they met him in the lift and at dinner etc.

I always feel like with Murray that some people literally can only see what they want where he is concerned. It is perfectly obvious that his reaction to winning the olympic gold was relief, overwhelming joy, then happiness. He didn't walk around the whole time grinning like a lunatic because he is a normal human being and normal human beings don't do that, but clearly he was delighted. The footage that proves that is out there for all to see but some people will pretend not to see it. Bizarre behaviour but what can you do.

Yeah, pretty sure Rose did spend some time at the village, I think the commitment was for all of Tam GB to spend some time there at least. But I think in many cases they didn't spend the duration there, like some came from the training camps only just before, and some didn't stay there the whole time. You can see from his twitter account Rose spent a lot of time in the proximity of the village from the photos he posted.

edit: being a bit sad I did a trawl through his twitter timeline, and in the link below you can see some pics from his room in the village, so he definitely stayed there:

https://twitter.com/JustinRose99/sta...42951889915904

ah apologies on that then, i was going by a comment from the manager of the GB golf team who mentioned one day "Danny and I went to see the...insert event....but Justin stayed on his own in his house."

I am very much in agreement with you regards Muzza. He is a sporting great and we should be hugely proud of him. As one commentator said "people have a go at him for not showing much of a sense of humour but the first time he did ( the England joke ) he was chastised almost universally". He is a fine sportsman and a proud example of a British success

Andy Murray he's great ! Ain't he ?

2004 young sports personality winner
2005 on the short list
2006 on the short list
2007 on the short list
2008 on the short list
2009 on the short list
2011 comes 5th
2012 comes 3rd
2013 he's the winner
2015 he's the winner
2016 he's on the short list for obvious reasons

Now many people say it should be re branded sports review of the year because the usual suspects have no personality so this award has nothing to do with personality but I'm thinking it really should be called the Andy Murray sports review show - or the SCOTYS SCOTYS get it SCOTYS I'm going to coin that phrase !!!!!!

Proof that he is one of the great and most popular British sportsman of the last decade plus.

More reason to petition the BBC to change the shows name to the BBCs Scotys 2016 lets get that petition going !

What happened in 2010, and 2014??

Why was he not on those lists?

In 2014, he was recovering from back surgery, so his year was a bit lacklustre by his usual standards. 2010 he reached one slam final and won a couple of Masters level events, which is more than Rusedski needed to win, but I can't recall the competition that year. It was also in the days of random nomination from The Sun, Nuts magazine etc. so the criteria was always a bit hit and miss.

Being pedantic, Murray was part of the teams that won the team award in 2012 (the somewhat dubious Team GB), and Davis Cup in 2015, so I think he'll survive if he doesn't get the award this time. He's a lock for a Lifetime Achievement award when the time comes.

It's also time for the annual reminder that there are two dictionary definitions of personality. One describes the sort of personality an individual has, whether that's bubbly or morose - we've all got one. You could vote for the sports person who you think has the 'best' personality if you like, or even pick the person with the personality most suited to be a top athlete (dedicated, focused, tactically astute).

The second definition is that of a well known, or notable person. This is the definition the BBC uses for this award, in which case the presence, or otherwise, of a particular personality is irrelevant. Nevertheless, the rules mean you can vote for whoever you like on the short-list for whatever reason you fancy. At least these days you can be confident that everyone on the list is there on merit.

The 10 in 2010 in order of votes received

AP McCoy
Phil Taylor
Jess Ennis
Lee Westwood
Graeme McDowell
Tom Daley
Mark Cavendish
Amy Williams
Graeme Swann
David Haye

Ahh yes TOM DALEY that's more likely the reason Andy Murray was left off the list so the budgie smuggler had a fighting chance - the BBCs master stroke took a dive on this punt

Would still expect Willett to be nominated but could be a question mark over him and Rose after a poor Ryder Cup.

Lewis Hamilton not winning the title means he won't be on the list.

Still think only people who were out in Rio should make the final list.

If Joshua does fight Klitschko and wins it then he will probably be on the list.

I hope lewis isn't nominated or wins it was a joke last time around Rory didn't win and that not even because I took a punt and had a pound on rory to win at 50/1.

quite annoyed though since I did think Rory was going to win couple of majors and win the ryder cup and he does that and he still doesn't win because Lewis drives the fastest car with no competition shambles really.

The BBC passed over world champion Jehnson button DO you really think they were going to ignore double world champion Lewis Hamilton ? There was no way the BBC was going to ignore a 3rd F1 British world champion - I knew Lewis would win it was so obvious everyone should have seen that coming